Was Michael Jackson killed by the higher ups or was his death accidental?

He owned half of Sony.

They wanted their catalogue back but he wouldn't sell.

So they torched his career with false allegations.

They did not want him to be financially free from the need to sell his catalogue so the simply killed him. Conrad was appointed by AEG. Someone at AEG could have easily been paid off. Or Conrad himself.

Either way, they tried to spin it like he was a drug addict when in reality Conrad put him on that stuff to cause a dependency, then literally overdosed him and left him to die (on purpose) right before This Is It concerts.

Before Murray's trial, I used to think it was an accident, but after the trial... let's just say that Conrad Murray did a lot of things that were suspicious (like not doing CPR correctly despite being a cardiologist, calling everybody except 911, hiding evidence, his lack of remorse and the disgusting things he has said about Michael since his death, etc.) Unfortunately, we'll probably never know the truth of what happened that day.

etoile 37 said:

Before Murray's trial, I used to think it was an accident, but after the trial... let's just say that Conrad Murray did a lot of things that were suspicious (like not doing CPR correctly despite being a cardiologist, calling everybody except 911, hiding evidence, his lack of remorse and the disgusting things he has said about Michael since his death, etc.) Unfortunately, we'll probably never know the truth of what happened that day.

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It makes me sad to think about this, people were defo plotting against Michael in 2009. What we as fans have to ask ourselves is who benefitted the most from Mike's death? Well just look at Sony...... they got what they wanted in the end, to own everything he had.

i swear i saw this thread on reddit lol

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Is it beyond your capabilities to believe that MJ could have just possibly have been a very troubled man who by 2009 was suffering mentally, emotionally due to the stress and trauma that he experienced in his life?

He was receiving propofol at HOME!! Not sure if you’re aware but this is outrageous to even consider doing something like this or actually wanting it.

MJ played Russian roulette with his life due to desperation and found a doctor who was willing to do whatever he wanted and also to keep him alive - he failed miserably.

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Blues_Away2023 said:

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Is it beyond your capabilities to believe that MJ could have just possibly have been a very troubled man who by 2009 was suffering mentally, emotionally due to the stress and trauma that he experienced in his life?

He was receiving propofol at HOME!! Not sure if you’re aware but this is outrageous to even consider doing something like this or actually wanting it.

MJ played Russian roulette with his life due to desperation and found a doctor who was willing to do whatever he wanted and also to keep him alive - he failed miserably.

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You are acting like Mike was an idiot in the last years of his life. Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual.

Tried to spin it like he was a drug addict? No spinning was necessary. Learn about his history, think about the fact he had a "medicine room" in his house, read about the condition he was in during TII rehearsals, and what was found in his house when he died.

The reason Murray went through the motions of CPR (and I'll agree, very badly), waited forever to call 911 etc, is because he was out of that room for way longer than he claimed to be. By the time he came back, Michael was long gone so there was no reason to rush to try and save him, it was too late. The only thing to do was try and cover his tracks.

The fact that some quack decided to introduce him to general anesthesia as a way to get sleep is what is insane. GA has nothing to do with sleep. One drug paralyzes you and one wipes your memory. At no point does your body enter a sleep state.

People have to stop thinking everything was a conspiracy theory. He was a very troubled man, no different than hundreds of entertainers who came before him, and it cost him his life. Sad but true.

Both things can be true imo. He was troubled, had his vices, and literally everyone around him was taking advantage of him. Do I think the people who stood to gain from him regardless cared about his health? No. The AEG emails say it all.

I don't know, but the fact that he had a huge amount of Propofol in his blood clearly indicated a lack of vigilance and judgment on the part of his doctor. I would tend to say that he deliberately killed him, but I don't know the truth and I won't pretend to know it either, but I respect different opinions.

Murray left him on a drip of propofol whilst he was talking on the phone and killed him. No need for speculation.

Circumstances surrounding MJ's passing have been pretty thoroughly explored and explained at this point.

WolfMJJ said:

You are acting like Mike was an idiot in the last years of his life. Just because you read it in a magazine Or see it on the TV screen Don't make it factual.

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Not once have I said that he was an idiot .

It’s clear though that he was suffering terribly and living in his own bubble at times during the 2000s.

A combination of prescription meds, fame, trauma , paranoia and crippling debts . Court cases and a decline in musical popularity was all part of the problem.

SmoothGangsta said:

Murray left him on a drip of propofol whilst he was talking on the phone and killed him. No need for speculation.

Circumstances surrounding MJ's passing have been pretty thoroughly explored and explained at this point.

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It was manslaughter due to his stupidity and neglect of his patient, but yes Murray was tasked with keeping him alive and failed.

Rather than solely blaming Murray though . I also blame Michael himself for even being in that position in the first place. His bedroom literally resembled a hospital room . That was not normal

michael jackson was human and had free will/ the capacity to do whatever the hell he wanted with his life. he was a drug addict plain as day. he's not above that being a reality for himself. murray should be held responsible but michael killed himself too. michael didn't wake up and say lemme become a addict and excessively/dangerously use drugs. he wasn't like lemme hire/befriend some enablers who can put my life at risk. michael was being taken advantage of too.

its truth and fact that addiction kills, whether you administer the dose, take the dose, order the dose...whatever, what not. michael jackson set himself up for failure. murray and the involved failed michael. the only person you can truly be responsible for is yourself. michael jackson had a responsibility to michael jackson.

when you reject/suppress the truth/self-honesty, you allow yourself to become vulnerable to self destruction/forfeiting your life. you cannot say it was unintentional/accidental in a sense because you allowed yourself to be consumed by what breeds death. when choose to lie to yourself and reject truthful confrontation you are willfully forfeiting your life.

i like everyones opinions to be honest. im not trolling, i'm just stating my opinion. period.

Mariah :) said:

he was a drug addict plain as day.

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It was actually established during the trial that you can't be addicted to propofol and that what Michael had was a dependency (because he needed to sleep), not an addiction. The difference between the two is that when his insomnia got better, he didn't feel the need for propofol. If he had been addicted, he would have felt a need for propofol regardless of if he could sleep or not. He was addicted to painkillers in 1993 and went to rehab for it, but he was not an addict at the time of his death, he just had a terrible case of insomnia and was desperate for sleep.

etoile 37 said:

It was actually established during the trial that you can't be addicted to propofol and that what Michael had was a dependency (because he needed to sleep), not an addiction. The difference between the two is that when his insomnia got better, he didn't feel the need for propofol. If he had been addicted, he would have felt a need for propofol regardless of if he could sleep or not. He was addicted to painkillers in 1993 and went to rehab for it, but he was not an addict at the time of his death, he just had a terrible case of insomnia and was desperate for sleep.

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i stand corrected

Did anyone else see that whistle blower video on youtube a long time ago called "We Killed Michael Jackson"? Does anyone know more details about that or was it like a weird fever dream?

The higher ups plotted his downfall, and kept the momentum for decades but Murray unintentionally killed him through negligence