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Late 2000s Vocals

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I'm not sure if this was discussed here before, but listening back to the Michael album and (not like we have a lot of songs to base this off of but anyway) I feel like his voice got WAYY better than how it was on Invincible and whatever else from that period? There's still like this slight lisp in there but the guy's pronounciation is much more understandable to me lmao. Really wish we had more songs from this time😔
 
Agreed. Best of Joy, Hold my Hand and IJCSLY + HN from TII have sublime vocals. They somehow sound more youthful and carefree than most late 90s / early 00 stuff.
I hope there is a little more recorded than what we already have.
 
love1sfatal said:
I'm not sure if this was discussed here before, but listening back to the Michael album and (not like we have a lot of songs to base this off of but anyway)
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Note, that Michael album had only 2 new Michael Jackson songs - Best of Joy and Hold My Hand.

Rest of the songs use his vocals from old recording sessions
 
Yup, hence the parentheses
We do also have Water though, vocals on that one are pretty good for a very rough mix
 
thiron said:
Agreed. Best of Joy, Hold my Hand and IJCSLY + HN from TII have sublime vocals. They somehow sound more youthful and carefree than most late 90s / early 00 stuff.
I hope there is a little more recorded than what we already have.
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That's exactly what I thought !! they almost remind me of HIStory era vocals at some points
 
This is a topic I love and analyze frequently, as I enjoy creating recreations. The work allowed me to differentiate the color of MJ's voice in each era; he had a special way of singing. In each decade, you saw an "evolution," or an attempt to add something new.

I particularly love his voice in the late 2000s; it reminds me of the softness of the voice he used in his youth, when he didn't want to stray from "what the public knew" with the Jackson 5. I see that sweetness and smoothness present until the late 1970s and occasionally in some performances until 1984.

Attempting to make his voice harder and heavier from the Bad era to HIStory seems to have had consequences. Although it's said he had more vocal range, to my ears, the "raspy" was never entirely to my liking. I like the high, clear notes he hits in shows like the one in London in '79.
Something I think he was trying to recover in the 2009s. Or maybe he used it as a resource, as he himself mentions in "This Is It," "to take care of" his voice.

But even in IJCSLY (pitch correction aside), he sings with a softness that's different from the original, not to mention what we heard live back in time in tours
 
DanGerouS- said:
late 2000s vocals also can be found on WBSS 2008.
unfortunately it's just one verse and some adlibs.
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Yeahh, although I like that vocal it just feels more like Akon feat. a bit of MJ to me, wish he just did more on it
 
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The 2000's is the era that fascinates me the most due to how little is known about it, and from the glimpses we got MJ was working up on a big comeback; not just with touring but with films, albums, classical music, and even video games. There's an entire era of music there that's completely unknown to the general public, and I would love to hear all the songs from the era even if a vast majority of them are nothing but unfinished compositions with maybe a half-assed mumbled vocal take if lucky.

On another note I wonder what's the most complete song from the late 2000's that includes full, complete vocals from MJ and everything. "I Have This Dream" and "I'm Dreaming" are said to be the closest to complete but those are songs that features MJ rather than being MJ songs entirely. "Boy No" is said to only be partially mumbled but the year of creation is unknown.
 
According to people who worked closely with Michael Jackson in the late 2000s, serious work on these songs was planned to take place after the end of the 'This Is It' London concerts (i.e., after March 2010).

That is why, most of these songs are just musical ideas, concepts, harmonies, and without Michael Jackson's vocals on them, as also confirmed by Akon.
 
DanGerouS- said:
late 2000s vocals also can be found on WBSS 2008.
unfortunately it's just one verse and some adlibs.
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Imo very "thin" vocals.. not a big fan of his voice in that version even if I really like this 2008 version in general.
 
ChanceToDance said:
The 2000's is the era that fascinates me the most due to how little is known about it, and from the glimpses we got MJ was working up on a big comeback
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I must admit I always wondered if there was more to the 'The best is yet to come' phrase than just creating hype..
 
the very first TII trailer had live vocals included of Billie Jean.
i cant find it anymore, but pretty sure someone has it?
 
threatened2020 said:
Me too. I'm thinking it was just hype as the vaults of music are not that full.
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You gotta remember that most of the music in the vault at the time wasn't leaked or posthumously released. So it was considerably full. And MJ was still alive, actively working on new material.
 
The 2000 vocals sound different because he was using a different mic and autotune was popular.
To me it sounds like a Sony C800-G with a Distressor compressor. Pretty heavy tuning.
If you listen to Invincible the layering by Michael is minimal. There are background singers and FX to add harmonies, but Michael kind of half assed it. I liked the harder/raspy style he used on most of that album.

History is my favorite album by him, but if you study the vocal processing it's pretty crappy. Overly compressed and dirty sounding on many songs. Doesn't have the pretty sparkle/clarity that Invincible has.
 
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