To me it seems like the gem of the 2000's comes from their sessions. I don't think I'd like the songs from Neff-U's sessions very much but I Am A Loser, D.I.G, Rocker, Adore You, Best Of Joy, Boy No and Just Remember are songs that have a lot of potential/are said to have potential. I can only hope we get to hear the unleaked songs someday.Honestly, I wish Michael had only worked with his old collaborators Michael Prince and Brad Buxer, as he got older.
But MJ didn't have a sound, literally his entire career is as versatile as can be. Is Billie Jean his sound, or is Beat It? Or is it Dangerous? You Rock My World was supposed to be a throwback right? To Off The Wall? Is that his sound? You Are Not Alone was his last #1, that's just R.Kelly through and through. Why did that song get more success than Stranger in Moscow?As MJ got older, he should have stuck to his sound and made music with his long time collaborators instead of chasing commercial success with collaborating with the young producers. I think that was one of the big issues with Invincible, in particular the Rodney Jerkins tracks.
EXCELLENT observations.But MJ didn't have a sound, literally his entire career is as versatile as can be. Is Billie Jean his sound, or is Beat It? Or is it Dangerous? You Rock My World was supposed to be a throwback right? To Off The Wall? Is that his sound? You Are Not Alone was his last #1, that's just R.Kelly through and through. Why did that song get more success than Stranger in Moscow?
Does a song like "Don't be Messing 'Round" even sound like traditional MJ? Or Throwing Your Life Away? Isn't The Way You Love Me just a Beach Boys homage? Isn't Behind The Mask just Yellow Magic Orchestra with his vocals on top? Even in the outtakes we hear way more variation and changes.
I just don't ever understand what people mean when they say "Michael Jackson" sound. Any song he sings on, saying hee-hee, that's basically his sound. No matter if it's late 70s, early 80s, late 80s, early 90s. He was eclectic, and that's why I like him. He's his own genre.
Sorry to go off on this rant on you. I would never fight you.
Now, see, on the other hand, MJ did try new things, in his own compositions and writing, and that was great. It was great hearing MJ experiment with crazy new music. Even songs like 'What a Lovely Way to Go", super eclectic, but a total one off. And people hated it lol. But I digress.EXCELLENT observations.
I completely disagree with the notion that MJ should’ve stuck to a certain sound. He recruited popular producers for Dangerous and HIStory without issue, but since Invincible was imperfect, somehow doing so becomes a negative. When an artist starts resting on their laurels and doing the same thing over and over again, that (to me) dilutes their catalog. Even if I don’t like the end result, I love that MJ consistently tried new things.
Ask him about dark lady .boy no .remember what i told you .rocker chords and verses lyrics
Michael McKillerThere's pretty much nothing from the HIStory sessions unfortunately. It'd be a nice alternative if the Estate released the demos of the songs on HIStory on a re-issue with a couple of extra outtakes like Innocent Man and Changes.
That one's from before HIStory.Michael McKiller
They said it's from history .there is also bazssouilleThat one's from before HIStory.
Hot fever only instrimental for the way you make me feel . Deep in the night .it's leaked on YouTubeDo we have any more info about Hot Fever and/or Deep in the Night (Might have asked about that 1)?
Hot Fever was actually more than just the instrumental of TWYMMF. It was also the working title for the song in general. On the multitrack sheet used in the studio, the song is also titled Hot Fever, although by that point it had lyrics.Do we have any more info about Hot Fever and/or Deep in the Night (Might have asked about that 1)?
We have. He’s already answered it. Multiple times.Ask him about dark lady .boy no .remember what i told you .rocker chords and verses lyrics
I just mean what's the lyrics. I have bad English i wonder how what he meant about them if they are like family things or noWe have. He’s already answered it. Multiple times.
There are no lyrics, Michael is randomly singing stuff without meaning just to get a feel of the melody and direction he was going to take the vocals in. Which in other words means "scratch" vocals. This is for songs like rocker and dark lady. It is possible both choruses are in a more advanced state.I just mean what's the lyrics. I have bad English i wonder how what he meant about them if they are like family things or no
But there is song he said 2 verse 2 chords i will show uThere are no lyrics, Michael is randomly singing stuff without meaning just to get a feel of the melody and direction he was going to take the vocals in. Which in other words means "scratch" vocals. This is for songs like rocker and dark lady. It is possible both choruses are in a more advanced state.
Remember what I told you holds similarities with speechless wether that is through lyrical resemblance or song structure I don't know. It is supposed to be halfway completed.
Boy No I have no single idea about.
Right, that's my understanding. Just wanted to make sure that that was actual canon, and not fan conjecture. Would be very interested in hearing it one day.Hot Fever was actually more than just the instrumental of TWYMMF. It was also the working title for the song in general. On the multitrack sheet used in the studio, the song is also titled Hot Fever, although by that point it had lyrics.
So there's nothing more to it?Deep In The Night is just an instrumental with some background vocals in the chorus.
The way MJ created demo's you should expect at least some main vocals of 'Deep In The Night' exist, even if it's of the mumbling kind..?Deep In The Night is just an instrumental with some background vocals in the chorus.
Yeah, I believe someone (Brad Sundberg?) said during a seminar that it was called “Hot Fever” while the music was being developed, and it became “The Way You Make Me Feel” when MJ started/finished the lyrics. Someone once posted a photo of a rough demo tape online and the song was titled “Hot Fever (The Way You Make Me Feel).”Right, that's my understanding. Just wanted to make sure that that was actual canon, and not fan conjecture. Would be very interested in hearing it one day.
That's good to know. Also really interesting since the song played in the opening of the video Is "Hot" by Roy Ayers.Yeah, I believe someone (Brad Sundberg?) said during a seminar that it was called “Hot Fever” while the music was being developed, and it became “The Way You Make Me Feel” when MJ started/finished the lyrics. Someone once posted a photo of a rough demo tape online and the song was titled “Hot Fever (The Way You Make Me Feel).”
So there's nothing more to it?
Not sure, there's other demos like Monster that only have chorus vocals so it's possible he just recorded those and there's nothing else though.The way MJ created demo's you should expect at least some main vocals of 'Deep In The Night' exist, even if it's of the mumbling kind..?
The Cascio track Monster..?Not sure, there's other demos like Monster that only have chorus vocals so it's possible he just recorded those and there's nothing else though.
