Requesting songs on streaming - WMCIG?

[strangerinncl]

Hi all,

I read an article on BBC news the other day about a music fan who petitioned music labels to upload songs to streaming services. I'm wondering if we can do the same with MJ's estate. I would love to see What More Can I Give, We've Had Enough, Someone Put Your Hand Out, Wembley Live etc etc on Spotify, since they have all been released at some point commercially (even if very limited or on a compilation). I'd also love Dangerous Tour Bucharest. Has anyone had any luck getting other songs listed before?

 

[R1chard]

All you can do is keep searching for it every week via the search box. Eventually it might get picked up by the person or the algorithm that monitors the queries. It might work or it might not.

That's the problem with not owning the music. You can only listen to what other people want you to listen to.

If you don't like it, buy the CD I guess. I'd always encourage people to take control. It's cheaper and greener, too.

 

[strangerinncl]

I already have all the CDs but it would be nice if there were more accessible to wider audiences. I'm not sure Spotify would actively feedback to record companies which of their songs are being looked for. Maybe it's best to chase Sony

 

[Billyjeanplxiv]

I emailed Tidal about not having the Michael Album on their streaming service in 2022. A few weeks later it was there.

I've asked about the Hollywood Throwback mix but that was no luck.

 

[mj_frenzy]

I already have all the CDs but it would be nice if there were more accessible to wider audiences. I'm not sure Spotify would actively feedback to record companies which of their songs are being looked for. Maybe it's best to chase Sony

Apparently, there is no such feature.

There is only a feature of an one-way direction from record companies to Spotify (and not from Spotify to record companies).

Record companies can flag certain songs via a 'Discovery Mode' feature.

This flagging will then influence the selection of songs that Spotify's algorithm picks out for listeners.

 

[ssj]

I emailed Tidal about not having the Michael Album on their streaming service in 2022. A few weeks later it was there.

I've asked about the Hollywood Throwback mix but that was no luck.

pretty sure the Throwback mix is on Tidal now

 

[AlwaysThere]

Never understood why the MJ solo demo of “What More Can I Give” was never released to benefit a current tragedy (e.g., Gaza/Palestine). Obviously the all-star one would be rife with legal squabbles, but what the hell is the harm with the demo?

 

[R1chard]

Never understood why the MJ solo demo of “What More Can I Give” was never released to benefit a current tragedy

That would be formulaic and in bad taste. It's like "we have this recording - now all we need to do is wait for a disaster to happen so the song can be popular". Wtf.

(e.g., Gaza/Palestine)

That's not a tragedy, it's a war. It's very different. Unlike an earthquake, this is entirely avoidable, and is caused by idiots who think their god is better than somebody else's god.

 

[AlwaysThere]

That's not a tragedy, it's a war. It's very different. Unlike an earthquake, this is entirely avoidable, and is caused by idiots who think their god is better than somebody else's god.

You’re not wrong, but could the same not be said for 9/11? Any opportunity to raise funds for those in need would be a great use of the song, imo.

 

[R1chard]

You’re not wrong, but could the same not be said for 9/11? Any opportunity to raise funds for those in need would be a great use of the song, imo.

Donating millions of dollars didn't prevent the war in Afghanistan, which resulted in about a quarter of a million deaths and perpetuated violence that continues to this day. Prevention is better than cure - songs like WMCIG and Exhibit 13 achieved nothing.

Sending money to the middle east won't solve that problem. People have been trying to put an end to religious wars for hundreds of years. You can't stop it because the people involved are too stubborn. Unfortunately you can't bribe people to drop their religion.

 

[mj_frenzy]

That's not a tragedy, it's a war. It's very different. Unlike an earthquake, this is entirely avoidable, and is caused by idiots who think their god is better than somebody else's god.

Tragedy is a broader term that includes also war.

Tragedy can be avoidable (such as, war, accident, etc), or it can be unavoidable (such as, earthquake, flood, etc).

 

[AlwaysThere]

Donating millions of dollars didn't prevent the war in Afghanistan, which resulted in about a quarter of a million deaths and perpetuated violence that continues to this day. Prevention is better than cure - songs like WMCIG and Exhibit 13 achieved nothing.

Sending money to the middle east won't solve that problem. People have been trying to put an end to religious wars for hundreds of years. You can't stop it because the people involved are too stubborn. Unfortunately you can't bribe people to drop their religion.

I dunno, this is just too pessimistic. I’m not saying that a charity single is going to shift the tides or prevent further atrocities from happening. But getting additional funds in programs that could help those in need? Raising awareness? I’m not sure how that’s a bad thing. Obviously prevention is number one, but we’re average citizens—we aren’t in any position to do anything of any legitimate magnitude. Doing what we can is better than doing nothing at all.

 

[R1chard]

I dunno, this is just too pessimistic.

In theory, this problem is extremely easy to solve, but in practice, it's literally the hardest problem in the world. If religious people were open-minded, and wanted it, these sorts of wars could be over TODAY. But they're not, and they never will be.

They've been killing each other in the middle east for nearly 1400 years. If they're happy to continue, who are we to tell them otherwise? It's bigger than you, it's bigger than Michael Jackson, and it's bigger than George Bush.

Please don't be naive enough to think that listening to a song and paying money to a major record company will stop this sort of ingrained fighting.

Using logic, it's avoidable. But in practice, it most definitely is not avoidable.

I’m not saying that a charity single is going to shift the tides or prevent further atrocities from happening. But getting additional funds in programs that could help those in need?

If you don't want to be involved in a war, then just move to a different country. A scrap of dirt in the middle of a desert isn't worth losing your life over. At least, that's the way I see it. There's no point spending money trying to improve that, because it will just get bombed again next week.

Raising awareness?

It's already on the news 24/7?

I’m not sure how that’s a bad thing. Obviously prevention is number one, but we’re average citizens—we aren’t in any position to do anything of any legitimate magnitude.

And neither is Sony...

 

[AlwaysThere]

In theory, this problem is extremely easy to solve, but in practice, it's literally the hardest problem in the world. If religious people were open-minded, and wanted it, these sorts of wars could be over TODAY. But they're not, and they never will be.

They've been killing each other in the middle east for nearly 1400 years. If they're happy to continue, who are we to tell them otherwise? It's bigger than you, it's bigger than Michael Jackson, and it's bigger than George Bush.

Please don't be naive enough to think that listening to a song and paying money to a major record company will stop this sort of ingrained fighting.

Using logic, it's avoidable. But in practice, it most definitely is not avoidable.


If you don't want to be involved in a war, then just move to a different country. A scrap of dirt in the middle of a desert isn't worth losing your life over. At least, that's the way I see it. There's no point spending money trying to improve that, because it will just get bombed again next week.


It's already on the news 24/7?


And neither is Sony...

Like I said, man, my goal isn’t for a single release to suddenly break through centuries of conflict and restore peace in the Middle East. It’s to raise some money for those in need, while the powers that be make the decisions they make. Not sure how much clearer I can make it. Peace.

 

[Victorious]

Like I said, man, my goal isn’t for a single release to suddenly break through centuries of conflict and restore peace in the Middle East. It’s to raise some money for those in need, while the powers that be make the decisions they make. Not sure how much clearer I can make it. Peace.

You are both right I guess: You can't stop religious wars with a charity single (most wars were not religious by the way) but you can definitely help victims by raising money, like We Are The World did. In the case of Gaza that would be more difficult since what is happening now is a retalitation and not a sudden attack

 

[dam2040]

You are both right I guess: You can't stop religious wars with a charity single (most wars were not religious by the way) but you can definitely help victims by raising money, like We Are The World did. In the case of Gaza that would be more difficult since what is happening now is a retalitation and not a sudden attack

The obvious idea for a charity single isn't to stop a war though, it's to raise awareness and money for those involved.

It's just pedantic for the sake of it and being deliberately obtuse.

 

[etoile 37]

How much money could a charity single raise now that we are in the streaming era and people are not buying music anymore? I doubt we'll ever see another We Are The World again. Charity concerts might be a better option to raise money now.

 

[R1chard]

How much money could a charity single raise now that we are in the streaming era and people are not buying music anymore?

That's the elephant in the room. People don't buy music. They subscribe to a service. Both the album and the single have been dead for about 10 years. Lots of people don't even have a CD player.

People still think it's the 80s, I guess.