So what is the song meaning of Human Nature?

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When listening to this song, I always visualised Michael sitting in a hotel bedroom (somewhere in New York City) and contemplating what is life, being in depression, why do humans act the way they do, etc.

What do you think?
 
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When listening to this song, I always visualised Michael sitting in a hotel bedroom (somewhere in New York City) and contemplate what is life, being in depression, why do humans act the way they do, etc.

What do you think?

It's such a brilliant song and one of my top 5 MJ songs of all time....but let's give credit to the songwriter please 🙌 He will tell you exactly what his inspiration was.
 
john bettis also deserves credit for rewriting the lyrics to fit michael’s perspective.

it seems to be about an outsider observing human interactions and questioning ‘why?’. in michael’s case, it would mean the restrictions that came with his fame, prevented him from socialising freely. it actually matches an incident where he was mobbed when going to a shopping centre during the recording of ‘thriller’. the ‘apple’ is a reference to New York.
 

"Steve Porcaro already had some lyrics on his demo (« Why, why
 »). Do you find it more difficult to follow somebody else’s ideas and vision or to start from scratch?

Yes, he had « Why, why
 » and I think he had « Tell ‘em that it’s human nature » or at least « human nature ». The connective words, I can’t recall if we had to refine that or not. But that was it: the rest of it wasn’t there. Like I said, I didn’t know what his ideas or vision were, and I’m very glad because from my seat, I was speaking to Michael. I know it was presumptuous of me in the extreme, but I was actually writing something for Michael the artist to sing because my first job was to submerge myself in my artistic reaction to him as a performing artist, to kind of lose myself in the artist personality and make sure that what I am writing for him to sing feels comfortable. That’s why each lyric I write is always my style ut they’re always slightly different too because every performer is different. That was definitely influencing the choosing of the /aʊ/ sound, and the /t/ sound. Michael was a rhythmic singer, and his sense of inner clock and inner rhythm was so impeccable that I wanted to do my level best to give him a chance to use that talent of his to the extreme. Using an /aʊ/ diphtong sound going into a hard consonant like /t/ would give him the opportunity to put the maximum out of rhythm. Words like « nightime », and lines like « if this town is just an apple, let me take a bite » would provide explosive consonants to deal with. The consonants make the rhythm easier for the performer to express ..."

"... After the lyric was accepted, everybody got really busy patching in the synthesizers and setting up to actually begin making the recording of it. Michael took me off and we had a very touching short time together. It was the first time I had ever spoken to the young man and it was very intimate. He was quite withdrawn but he still possessed the power of that individual, and you could just feel it. He spoke very softly and he wanted to know how I knew to write that lyric for him. That’s when I realized I had gotten through. I told him about Karen and her dying, and this was within a year of her passing away, so it was still fresh in my mind. You know, the connection was the enforced isolation from the world. Karen was sixteen or seventeen when we made it, and she was a star when she was nineteen or so. We were so young and she lived at home with her mom. She went from nobody to Karen Carpenter in like a year. She skipped a bunch of steps in emotional life because she was forced by stardom to isolate and when you do that, you suffer. And Michael was a superstar when he was like eight years old. I mean talk about skipping steps!
 So I told him about that, that I felt a common theme for the two of them. We talked for a while about that sort of things and he thanked me for it. When I heard much later that it was one of the favorite songs he had ever recorded, I always feel gratitude for that."

"Through the lyrics of the song, I took the liberty of kind of offering him a piece of advice subtly. I thought Michael should actually go do what the song said to do. I think that would have been fun, first of all, fun for him, and secondly, it’s very hard for someone in Michael’s world to have the kind of personal freedom to be yourself and explore life and make connections with people and explore relationships. It can be damnably hard when you’re a superstar at that level to have genuine human contact. So I was kind of giving him an allegory he could live."
 
john bettis also deserves credit for rewriting the lyrics to fit michael’s perspective.

it seems to be about an outsider observing human interactions and questioning ‘why?’. in michael’s case, it would mean the restrictions that came with his fame, prevented him from socialising freely. it actually matches an incident where he was mobbed when going to a shopping centre during the recording of ‘thriller’. the ‘apple’ is a reference to New York.

How does the story John Bettis say match up with the story Steve says? Does it fill in any gaps in how the song was conceived?
 
When listening to this song, I always visualised Michael sitting in a hotel bedroom (somewhere in New York City) and contemplating what is life, being in depression, why do humans act the way they do, etc.

What do you think?
Great song. heartfelt. All the above you have mentioned although i personally don't see him somewhere in NYC .. It's pretty universal to me although i do see him in a hotel.. and i thank Mr Steve P. for creating it and for Michael singing it. Great duo! Best song ever.


 
The original Porcaro demo was written to explain to his daughter, after a boy at school kept pulling her hair and teasing, Steve was trying to explain to her he likes you. It's human Nature

The John Bettis version is supposedly about a passerby in New City I read somewhere. But I've always taken the song to be about it's not wrong to fall in love with someone you feel for.

I like the vagueness of the lyrics, it adds depth tit the song
 
Just wanted to put in the fact that this song is probably my favourite MJ song of all time. Never tire of it. Live performances especially on the Victory and Bad Tours were just amazing. Dangerous tour ones as well but he seemed a bit more breathless after perfoming Jam and WBSS back to back , he probably should have put it further down the setlist. But yeah . My favourite MJ song always.
 
I've always pictured the video in NY as well. It's fitting since the lyric is "if this town is just an apple" since NY is called "The Big Apple"
 
Dangerous tour ones as well but he seemed a bit more breathless after perfoming Jam and WBSS back to back
Its slow, so it was probably a breather, haha 😂. He made it quite sexy though. I don't know if the lyrics really match the way he performed it on stage.
 
'Human Nature' refers to New York City, considering certain lyrics of the song such as:

- The apple lyrical reference (New York City's nickname is The Big Apple)

- The sleepless eye lyrical reference (New York City's another nickname is The City That Never Sleeps)

Note also that Michael Jackson left his home town, and he went to New York City (in 1978) in order to star in the 'The Wiz' film (while he was living alone in his apartment in New York City during that period, he used to look out across the night time).
 

"Steve Porcaro already had some lyrics on his demo (« Why, why
 »). Do you find it more difficult to follow somebody else’s ideas and vision or to start from scratch?

Yes, he had « Why, why
 » and I think he had « Tell ‘em that it’s human nature » or at least « human nature ». The connective words, I can’t recall if we had to refine that or not. But that was it: the rest of it wasn’t there. Like I said, I didn’t know what his ideas or vision were, and I’m very glad because from my seat, I was speaking to Michael. I know it was presumptuous of me in the extreme, but I was actually writing something for Michael the artist to sing because my first job was to submerge myself in my artistic reaction to him as a performing artist, to kind of lose myself in the artist personality and make sure that what I am writing for him to sing feels comfortable. That’s why each lyric I write is always my style ut they’re always slightly different too because every performer is different. That was definitely influencing the choosing of the /aʊ/ sound, and the /t/ sound. Michael was a rhythmic singer, and his sense of inner clock and inner rhythm was so impeccable that I wanted to do my level best to give him a chance to use that talent of his to the extreme. Using an /aʊ/ diphtong sound going into a hard consonant like /t/ would give him the opportunity to put the maximum out of rhythm. Words like « nightime », and lines like « if this town is just an apple, let me take a bite » would provide explosive consonants to deal with. The consonants make the rhythm easier for the performer to express ..."

"... After the lyric was accepted, everybody got really busy patching in the synthesizers and setting up to actually begin making the recording of it. Michael took me off and we had a very touching short time together. It was the first time I had ever spoken to the young man and it was very intimate. He was quite withdrawn but he still possessed the power of that individual, and you could just feel it. He spoke very softly and he wanted to know how I knew to write that lyric for him. That’s when I realized I had gotten through. I told him about Karen and her dying, and this was within a year of her passing away, so it was still fresh in my mind. You know, the connection was the enforced isolation from the world. Karen was sixteen or seventeen when we made it, and she was a star when she was nineteen or so. We were so young and she lived at home with her mom. She went from nobody to Karen Carpenter in like a year. She skipped a bunch of steps in emotional life because she was forced by stardom to isolate and when you do that, you suffer. And Michael was a superstar when he was like eight years old. I mean talk about skipping steps!
 So I told him about that, that I felt a common theme for the two of them. We talked for a while about that sort of things and he thanked me for it. When I heard much later that it was one of the favorite songs he had ever recorded, I always feel gratitude for that."

"Through the lyrics of the song, I took the liberty of kind of offering him a piece of advice subtly. I thought Michael should actually go do what the song said to do. I think that would have been fun, first of all, fun for him, and secondly, it’s very hard for someone in Michael’s world to have the kind of personal freedom to be yourself and explore life and make connections with people and explore relationships. It can be damnably hard when you’re a superstar at that level to have genuine human contact. So I was kind of giving him an allegory he could live."
thanks for sharing this. the final paragraph confirms it for me. had no idea about the parallels between karen carpenter. I know that tom bahler wrote ‘she’s out of my life’ about her.

the overall mood of ‘human nature’ is bright & breezy. I don’t envision the nighttime city at all. rather the daytime countryside or tropical climate. the intro is like a kaleidoscope of sunny spells 💜
 
I think Human Nature is a great fit for Michael, whose behavior has repeatedly been portrayed as bizarre by the media.
 
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