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which gets back to the question as to how many more times
Exactly
which gets back to the question as to how many more times
This notion did not exist until that video of the accident popped out of thin air 25 years after the fact, and after 6/25/2009, cable lnews media was the initial source that linked the painkillers to that accident
ummmm, as soon as I saw that video in 1993 by MJ talking about his dependency and mentioned because of scalp reconstruction.. I immediately thought Pepsi burn 1000%... and in reports in 1993 it was talked about fairly often..
and dependency of some sort was pretty apparent at points (2001-2003) and I for one tried to be ignorant about it..
We know he had scalp surgery and ended up abusing the pain killers when he told us himself with the Neverland statement. He also said why he had the scalp surgery-because of the burns. (But there was no addiction or drug use after the burn itself).This notion did not exist until that video of the accident popped out of thin air 25 years after the fact, and after 6/25/2009, cable lnews media was the initial source that linked the painkillers to that accident
This notion did not exist until that video of the accident popped out of thin air 25 years after the fact, and after 6/25/2009, cable lnews media was the initial source that linked the painkillers to that accident
Exactly
Same ole agenda by certain posters.
That MJ took pain killers due to a reconstructive surgery on his scalp in 1993 is well documented. He himself talks about it that video statement he gave in 1993:
It's not a "narrative" that that scalp surgery was a consequence of the 1984 burn. Why else do you think he underwent a painful surgery on his scalp?
even after 06/25/2009....people who knew him on a personal level said that accident had nothing to do with what started years later.....
"It's hard to say," Miko Brando, a Jackson friend and son of the late actor Marlon Brando, told "Good Morning America." "Yes, it was an accident. Yes, he took medicine. Yes, the doctors gave him medicine."
But Brando said to conclude that this incident triggered the alleged addiction and the prescription painkillers Jackson was said to be taking at the time of his death is pure speculation.
If a scalp surgery that is to reconstruct injury from that burn is "nothing" to you then yes.
Brando said this precisely:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/MichaelJackson/story?id=8096762&page=1
The 1984 did not directly trigger it, that is true, however it did trigger certain things that later lead to surgery that then required pain medication, so there IS a connection.
But if you say there isn't that's your opinion, but I disagree.
You constantly try hinting at some great conspiracy - your constant references at some mysterious book that is the fountain of all truth and wisdom about MJ, but that no one ever has seen (except maybe you) etc. It would be nice if instead of beating the bush around you would be straightforward enough to write what you really think but they are probably thoughts you would be banned for. (I have seen you on other boards and I know all too well what you really think about MJ and that it is not nice.) However, the constant vauge hinting at things is really annoying IMO. I mean what is the purpose? If you know about a book that has all the "truth" about MJ why don't you enlighten us what that book is exactly and what it is about? I see no point in vauge hints. Unless it is attention seeking.
that's the issue.....the realization of being banned......and thus that's why everyone is beating around the bush as to what really happened to this human being first, this black man second, this entertainer third.......because nobody wants the truth because its' gonna take too much to relinquish all the notions and beliefs and looking at how everything has transpired......entertainment is not going to rebound, music is not going to be restored until then
when there is no threat of being castigated or being banned, then there won't be a need to beat around the bush another longer and fans, and everyone who has followed this situation over time can acknowledge it, learn from it, and take the necessary steps to make sure nothing like what we seen take place with Michael Jackson never ever happens again to anyone regardless of race, creed, color, gender, or nationality because the price was way too much to pay......
what happened to Michael Jackson over time was serious business of the highest order......
I have seen your comments on another forum. Some of them were downright hateful to MJ and his kids and I don't mind at all that MJJC doesn't allow that kind of trash talk here. The issue is that you know that too that's why you don't post it because you know you would be immediately banned (rightfully so). However that doesn't stop you from making cryptic comments alluding to things all the time. What's the point? Why don't you focus on things that you can talk about here and leave your controversial opinions - and all the vauge comments alluding to them - elsewhere? It's extremely pointless and annoying.
Joining a community means you accept its rules. If you are not satisfied with the rules then this forum is not for you and your theories about Michael Jackson. Simple.
I have seen your comments on another forum. Some of them were downright hateful to MJ and his kids and I don't mind at all that MJJC doesn't allow that kind of trash talk here. The issue is that you know that too that's why you don't post it because you know you would be immediately banned (rightfully so). However that doesn't stop you from making cryptic comments alluding to things all the time. What's the point? Why don't you focus on things that you can talk about here and leave your controversial opinions - and all the vauge comments alluding to them - elsewhere? It's extremely pointless and annoying.
Joining a community means you accept its rules. If you are not satisfied with the rules then this forum is not for you and your theories about Michael Jackson. Simple.
so we all want our version of things to be correct, or I should say want to pick and choose what should be highlighted which ultimately leads everyone to be kryptic in the end.......
^ You guessed it wrong.
this is why the presence of music's greatest entertainer is no more........because as a whole, we dont' want honest discussion to truly learn from and to correct the problem, I mean to really correct it
so we all want our version of things to be correct, or I should say want to pick and choose what should be highlighted which ultimately leads everyone to be kryptic in the end.......
this story is bigger than children for I've never attacked anyone......it's about how a system of things leads people to make bad choices in life where society would be better off if the system was eradicated altogether, and then we wouldn't have to conclude that someone's being cryptic
because I've read many of these books that are being discussed right now and the only word I can think of is cryptic
regarding the 02 Concerts, the day that it was announced, and when I saw that press conference, and the realization that Michael Jackson hadn't conduct a concert tour in 12 years, it never should have been schedule, or at the very least, not in the year 2009 because there was no way it was going to go down....and if that tour had not been schedule, then there would be no need for this particular book to be written.......
there was nothing to prove anymore and after his acquittal in 2005, MJ should have live out the rest of his life w/out focusing on his career so much
Not everyone is cryptic, only you are that is because you know your real views about MJ would get you banned. The only thing I don't get is, when you know those views are not for this forum then why do you constantly keep alluding to them here in cryptic ways? That way you avoid being banned, but it is pointless to keep repeating mantras ad nauseam about "what really happened to MJ" when you are not telling us what in your opinion happened to him.
Repeat: when you signed up here you accepted the rules of this forum, so no need to complain about them. If you don't like them you can stay on those forums where you can freely bash MJ and his children like you want to.
But yeah, I guess I will just look for the ignore button. For the first time ever on MJJC.
I haven't bashed anyone......
Sure. That's why you've been called out several times on your MJ bashing rants on a forum that is not even dedicated to him but to another artist, even by fans of that other artist. Buying his albums does not negate your obvious ill feelings towards him as a person. It's like saying "I am not a racist, I have a black friend." Hell, even Diane Dimond and Nancy Grace said they liked his music. LOL.
What you say elsewhere is the business of that other forum. However it helps to illuminate the things that you keep alluding to here in your cryptic comments. Like I said, what's the point when you are not going to say out loud what you really think? If you know those thoughts are not allowed on this forum then why keep alluding to them in cryptic ways? Why just not focus on his music and other stuff?
There is nothing wrong with MJJC's policy BTW. It simply disallows disrespect for MJ and his children. Your comments would be banable under that rule simply because they are disrespectful (at times even downright hateful) to MJ and his children, not because MJJC has some extremely strict rules.
Anyway, this is my last reply to you, because it is going off topic. But I had to get it off my chest, because I know too well what those cryptic comments by you (in this thread and all around MJJC) allude to. From now on you are on ignore.
They just want to get a reaction from you. Just use the ignore button until they get bored or the mods get rid
You should never bash MJ if you're really a fan,
Just because you brought his records it doesn't mean you actually care about MJ, and yes the music industry is corrupt in MANY ways, but MJ fought AGAINST that and shined a light on those problems during his career.
Also, I would like to know what "problems" occured with MJ that could reoccur with someone else because having a bunch of snakes around you and having the media smear you nonstop was no fault of Michael's.
However, if the way you think is anything like what I believe it is then you have NO business being and MJ fan, and if you said want you REALLY wanted to say it WOULD get you banned from here (and rightfully so).
nobody can dictate who should be a fan or not, or what constitutes being a fan, or who's been a fan or who hasnt......
Michael Jackson has had fans since he began his professional recording career started at Motown, those fans in the beginning play just an important role as fans of today, w/out their support, there is no today
no fan is greater than the next........
and just because what one segment may think someone is bashing doesn't necessarily make that assertion to be true
as I mentioned earlier, after his acquittal, where he was expected to pick up where he left off, MJ should have set down his career and chilled because there was nothing else to prove anymore....there was nothing left to give
I will however very much agree with your last words in this particular post. Matter of fact, I think anyone who truly cared about Michael and put his well being above any artistic accomplishment would feel the same way. I bet most, if not all those who had tickets for the TII shows would have gladly given up their attendance and their chance to see him perform on the world's stage if it meant that Michael could go on living, enjoying good health and irrevocable happiness. I am one of those people btw. No need to get into the details of that though since it is highly irrelevant.
True, and I will, but the fact that they think the way they do and are on an MJ fan forum does bother me.
PS: how do you put someone on ingnore (I've never done it before).