The drums and horns are all from 2010.
That can't be. Steve said he let his brother Jeff replay the drums.
2014 actually?
Jeff has died in 1992
Yeah I think the closest date we can track the drums is 1986, during the Bad sessions. The horns could've been from there as well, but horns aren't typically done until way later into an album session.
Steve said he was working on this and Dream Away and that they weren't finished yet. They are for sure versions he's been working on imo.
More than likely for his solo album.
I give up then. I've no idea.
Steve Porcaro said that right after Thriller, Michael started working on the next album with his brothers and those songs were worked on during this time.
No the drums are most likely from the 80s. Steve said that the initial synth jam he did used a drum machine. The live drums were most likely recorded when MJ recorded his vocals.
I remember having read/heard at some point that the horns were added when Steve got back to it thinking it could be included on Xscape.
Yeah it seems that there is a verse missing..? (one is double).
It's definitely not 2000s... It does sound Late 80s if you squint I guess.
But it's so soft and organic for the late 80's.. Well maybe that's a Toto thing
Well that is their whole thing.
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I've been looking for the full recording for a while now. This can give an idea of how the seminars are like to those who are unable to attend them.Nice! Did you also hear the guy in the audience mentioning a Toto song similar to Chicago 1945, I think it's this one:Here is everything that was recorded from the Steve seminar so anybody can listen for themselves:
1.36 GB file on MEGA
So maybe there's a version of C45 recorded at Westlake in fall of 1986.
Awesome thanks for posting thatSteve Porcaro said that right after Thriller, Michael started working on the next album with his brothers and those songs were worked on during this time.
No the drums are most likely from the 80s. Steve said that the initial synth jam he did used a drum machine. The live drums were most likely recorded when MJ recorded his vocals.
Also the leaked version of the song was never worked on during the Bad sessions.
the question is hard to hear in the recording but it is something like "Did he think about releasing it on another album?"
"You know he didn't. I remember I walked in to work on Bad, and I haven't done that much on Bad. But the first time I walked in on Bad Quincy said "yo Poco, Chicago 1945, nice". You know I assumed it would come up at some point and then I assumed I would take it and do what I was gonna do, what he asked me to do in the first place. And I would get in touch with him and play it for him and convince him to finish it. You know to put it out somehow but no never. "
Here is everything that was recorded from the Steve seminar so anybody can listen for themselves:
1.36 GB file on MEGA
Again, Jeff Porcaro recorded the live drums and he passed away in 1992. The drums are pre-1992 for a fact.
Okay thanx, I'll leave it at that then
As I previously posted, David Williams told Pocaro that he had recorded the song. So the second version of C45 would have been recorded while Williams was working with MJ. That puts that version somewhere between 1983 and 1991.So maybe there's a version of C45 recorded at Westlake in fall of 1986.
In late 1990s a Toto fan page mentioned (or even quoted, don't remember this now) Steve sayin that MJ's recorded C45 twice. I've always assumed the second recording session may have happened during History sessions.
edit:
The booklet of Xscape (deluxe edition) states C45 as Bad outtake.
1994/1995 was just my assumption based on C45 being recorded twice and MJ revisiting many tracks from the 1980s during the History sessions.
maybe 2-track mixes of both original demos use different vocals. I suppose Steve owns only a copy of the 1983 multitrack tape (and 2-track mix of the other one)
I remember reading this as well- horns and some synths were recorded posthumously. Unfortunately, I canāt find the source.
His voice was not "weird". You guys really underplay the uniqueness of his voice. Michael was experimenting with different sounds for his upcoming album (in this case the album would be "Bad"), if you listen to all of Michael's demos in between and after different eras, you will notice that he sounds like a mix between whichever era came before and the era that came after. Simply put, Michael always had the same voice, he just learned how to sing differently as time passed, which is why he sounds different on Thriller than he does on Bad. Michael could always sing like he did on Thriller even when he was in his 40's. I believe "Chicago 1945" was simply a way to experiment with the "Bad" era singing style.