[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

How come stacy knows what is coming? Where is he getting his information from?

In the last article about what TMez said, there is no information there that he mentioned AEG. Didn't the earlier TMZ edited story say TMez insinuated an AEG connection. I don't think TMez would do that because he would open himself to some legal trouble that could cost him millions.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I think Stacey Brown was just a day late and a dollar short. The man is beyond creepy
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I think Stacey Brown was just a day late

I hope so qbee. This mess is already beyond ridiculous without any more drama.
 
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I am going to have a breakdown if there is another story. This is too much.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Yeah Stacey tweeted that 12 hrs ago...

But I wouldn't be surprised if another accusation does happen...
 
An interesting tidbit of info about Wade Robson vs. Jamie King.

This is from 2008

I reported back in November that Wade Robson and his wife were directing and choreographing Britney’s upcoming tour as Wade himself stated in a video, but plans have changed. Wade was actually only hired to direct Britney’s Circus promotional tour which had ended in Japan.

Jamie King, who also directed Madonna’s Sticky and Sweet Tour which by the way raked in A LOT of money is now replacing Wade and his wife as Britney Spears Circus’ Tour Director while Simon Ellis is the Musical Director for the tour.

Read more: http://www.crushable.com/2008/12/26...for-britney-spears-circus-tour/#ixzz2SkwdH1IG

Hm, I wonder if there is grudge involved against Jamie King who directs Michael Jackson ONE which will start soon in Vegas...

What better way to ruin Jamie's work and try to make it flop? I think the primary motive is money, but I wonder if there are other angles too such as this.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Let's sum up according to the story from TMZ and then the lawyer:

Michael molest a kid for 7 years, up to age 14. Michael told the kid they would go to jail so not to tell. The kid believes this even when he is 12, 13, 14 even though 14 year olds in the US have more sense. Then at 14 he repressed the memory At the Same Time he did not repress but was still afraid he would go to jail even when he was age 30 and kept quiet.

While still afraid he would go to jail, he continued to give interviews about Michel and show how great Michael was, even though Michael was dead & could not do anything to him. At the Same Time because he repressed the memory of the abuse he continued to give nice tributes to Michael.

Then, his career went downhill & he remembered what Michel did. At the Same Time a year ago he collapsed in a hospital under the weight of what Michel had done to him. Then, apparently he gets up from this collapse or recovery of the memory & 9 months ago went and gave a great interview about Michael. Then, he remembered he was supposed to be under the impact of a molestation collapse and somehow got a psychiatrist & lawyer to get payment for the abuse.

What we have learned? Shake downers never get their story straight.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Yeah Stacey tweeted that 12 hrs ago...

But I wouldn't be surprised if another accusation does happen...

I wouldn't be surprised either. I don't trust very many people anymore when it comes to Michael Jackson. I didn't trust many people before this mess with Wade. And I definitely don't trust many people now.
 
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^That's an interesting finding.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Now I am worried who could it be next. I don't trust anybody either.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

^^They said he tweeted that a long time ago, so he was talking about the Wade story.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

me doing the countdown before the authorities get involved and make some arrests. the story is just too phongkong.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

If it's Mac or Brent my hope for humanity would be 100% destroyed, currently 99.9%.

At least I hope Katherine, TJ, whoever are comforting Prince, Paris and Blanket. If we're devastated, heartbroken, disgusted, they most be worse. My heart goes out for them. :cry:
 
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What does it say about people like Stacey Brown and Diane Dimond gloating over some ish like this? Freakin PERVERTS! They give me the creeps! Always lurkin in the corner for more B.S on MJ involving false child abuse allegations! :puke:
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I am not surprised if there is another one jumping on the $$$$$$, Michael is a easy target with a billion dollar estate. the vultures out there looking for bloody money won't miss such opportunity. However, michael had been prosecuted so whoever came out now have to explain why they didnt when Tom Sneddon was searching around the world looking for 'victims', why they remains silence during the time Michael was crucified by the court of public opinion. Prepare for more " repressed memory".
 
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I wonder if the filing shows dates and times of this molestation. The next problem he will have is that when he starts to tell when & where the molestation took place for 7 years while Michel was married, you will find that Michael was not where he claims Michael was. That is the same problem the 05 shake downers had & had to change their dates. I wish I could questions him myself.

Blue some people get a perverse joy out of smut. They make a big drama of being outraged, but the stories excite them, and Diamond and Brown are those types. Don't you see how alive they get when stories like these come out. If you tell them that about themselves, though, they will get mad.
 
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It breaks my heart. :( Sometimes it's so hard to believe that after 4 years people are able to do so against Michael: use him to make money and denigrate him. Disgusting! :puke: Why is it so hard to leave Michael alone? :perrin:


I can not believe this guy is convinced he's going somewhere with this ridiculous accusation. :blink: :crazy: He does not have a life? :blink: He should take care his life, move on and leave Michael alone! :perrin:
 
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Just cant anymore .....:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
FORMER JACKSON DEFENDER NOW SAYS SINGER ABUSED HIM
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY
— May. 8 10:18 PM EDT
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FILE - In this May 5, 2005 file photo, defense witness Wade Robson, center, along with an unidentified woman, is escorted into the Santa Barbara County Courthouse by a member of Michael Jackson's security force, in Santa Maria, Calif. to provide testimony in Jackson's trial on charges of child molestation. Robson, a choreographer who testified that Michael Jackson never abused him as a child, has now filed a claim against the singer’s estate claiming years of abuse at by the pop superstar. Robson’s attorney Henry Gradstein writes in a statement that his client was abused by the pop superstar over a seven year period. (AP Photo/Michael A. Mariant, File)

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A choreographer and television personality who was a key witness in Michael Jackson's successful defense against child molestation charges is seeking permission to file a claim against the singer's estate alleging the pop superstar sexually abused him as a child. during a seven-year period, court records and an attorney said.

Wade Robson was abused by Jackson during a seven-year period, the choreographer's attorney, Henry Gradstein, wrote in a statement Wednesday. The attorney said Robson, 30, suffered a breakdown last year but has not stated how much his client is seeking to recoup from Jackson's estate if a judge permits him to pursue his abuse allegations.

Details on Robson's accusations were filed under seal.

The molestation allegations have been fiercely denied by an attorney for Jackson's estate and the singer's criminal defense attorney, Thomas Mesereau Jr.

"Mr. Robson was one of my strongest witnesses in Michael Jackson's criminal trial," Mesereau said. "I called him to the stand at the beginning of the defense case and he was adamant that he had never been improperly touched or molested. This makes no sense."

Robson was the first defense witness during the 2005 trial that ended with Jackson's acquittal on molestation charges. He also spoke favorably about Jackson after the singer's death in June 2009.

"Last year, on a career trajectory that was off the charts, (Robson) collapsed under the stress and sexual trauma of what had happened to him for seven years as a child," Gradstein wrote in a statement that referred to Jackson as a sexual predator.

"There are significant legal issues involved in this case that have the potential to impact lives beyond just our client," he wrote.

Gradstein said he could not discuss specifics of the case, but he cited Robson's recent breakdown as the choreographer's reason for reversing his previous statements about Jackson. "As a result, he started intensive treatment which ultimately led to his ability to come forward," Gradstein said.

Robson, an Australian-born choreographer, has appeared on the Fox series "So You Think You Can Dance" and worked with Britney Spears and other stars.

"Mr. Robson's claim is outrageous and pathetic," Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman wrote in a statement. "This is a young man who has testified at least twice under oath over the past 20 years and said in numerous interviews that Michael Jackson never did anything inappropriate to him or with him. Now, nearly four years after Michael has passed this sad and less than credible claim has been made. We are confident that the court will see this for what it is."

Gradstein filed a motion seeking permission to file a late creditor's claim against Jackson's estate on May 1, nearly four years after the singer's death, court records show. Most of the documents are sealed pending a June court hearing, but a summary of the documents states the choreographer includes a declaration from a psychiatrist and an "Unfiled Complaint for Childhood Sexual Abuse."

The period for filing claims against Jackson's estate has long since passed, but a California civil statute allows victims of abuse to file a lawsuit within three years of discovering "that psychological injury or illness ... was caused by the sexual abuse."

The judge overseeing Jackson's massive probate case will have to determine whether Robson's claim can go forward.

Gradstein's statement did not address any specifics about when or where Jackson's alleged molestation occurred, but the choreographer testified extensively in 2005 about the time he spent with Jackson.

"Wade Robson, in addition to being one of the most talented people on the planet, is one of the kindest, most gentle, decent and introspective human beings one will ever meet. He is the loving father of a young son and happily married," Gradstein wrote in a statement first obtained by celebrity website TMZ.

His claim was filed nearly eight years to the day after Robson testified Jackson never inappropriately touched him. He was 22 at the time he testified, telling jurors in Jackson's criminal case that he met Jackson when he was 5 years old and had spent the night at Jackson's Neverland Ranch more than 20 times, sleeping in the singer's bedroom on most visits.

During the trial, Robson bristled at testimony by other witnesses that they had seen Jackson molest him. "I'm very mad about it," he told jurors. "It's not true and they put my name through the dirt. I'm really not happy about it."

The claims come as Jackson's mother, who supported her son throughout the molestation trial in Santa Maria, Calif., is in a Los Angeles courtroom pursuing a negligent hiring case against the promoter of Jackson's planned series of comeback concerts.

Katherine Jackson has not addressed Robson's allegations, and her attorney, Perry Sander Jr., said Mesereau was the appropriate person to comment on the molestation claims.

Marvin S. Putnam, an attorney for concert promoter AEG Live LLC, said he wasn't familiar with the specifics of Robson's claims but doubted it would come up in the civil trial filed by Jackson's mother. "I don't see how it has anything to do with our case," he said.

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AP Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch contributed to this report.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/former-jackson-defender-now-says-singer-abused-him
 
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According to the site where the Stacy Brown tweet was posted, they just posted one hour ago that there is another "victim" looking for someone to write his story. SMDH!
 
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Yeah, let Mesereau talk about a new charge of molestation against Michael, cause it really has nothing to do with how Michael died so right now it is not important....
 
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I'll bet this is a first for Tom M. Having to defend a previous "not guilty" client of another accusation... after his client died! Unbelievable.
 
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Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

"So Wade's lawyer is saying that he didn't admit he was molested by MJ because MJ threatened him that they would be sent to jail but then on the other hand says that he didn't remember being abused because his memories were repressed? Make up your mind Wade, which is it? Can't be both"


What a good point!
 
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So Wade's lawyer is saying that he didn't admit he was molested by MJ because MJ threatened him that they would be sent to jail but then on the other hand says that he didn't remember being abused because his memories were repressed? Make up your mind Wade, which is it? Can't be both"


That comment by wades lawyer just proves how ridiclous these claims are!
 
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Tom doesn't have to do this but I am glad he is stepping in and defending Michael. I don't understand how Rebbie can be friends with Stacy Brown when he does this to her brother. Her son defends Michael better than she does.
 
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^^They need to stop writing as though TMez said that.

So Wade is hiding out until June 1 hearing? How come his lawyer claims he is happily married and I saw somewhere here that his marriage was not going well. He has an unfiled child abuse report and psychiatrist report with his claim. I guess they told him what he needed to add to his papers. I bet the psychiatrist has all the right phrases in his statement about power of the accuser, fear, repression. I hope the psychiatrist knows that the story has to be either repression or fear of Michael & not both. Hopefully the psychiatrist have an answer as to why during a molestation collapse Wade gave an interview honoring Michael.

Wade has 2 people to pay, so they will ask for big bucks.
 
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I heard wade is divorced or going through with divorcing
 
Re: [Confirmed ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#

I heard wade is divorced or going through with divorcing

Yes but we have his attorney who claims how wonderful Wade is, say he is happily married. Even his lawyer does not even have the story straight. Thing about these dishonorable people is that they make statements when it is so easy to get facts that show otherwise.

I wonder if Wade will show up for the hearing. A lot of fans are going to be standing outside of that courthouse for sure.
 
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