Madonna - Posting on Social Media About Michael

[Dunk96]

Re: What's Going On With Madonna?

The caption makes no sense,but regardless,it's tasteless purposely Photoshopping a known rival out of a picture. *cough* Janet *cough* Whether or not she Photoshopped it herself or not,it's still in poor taste.

 

[GreenEyes]

Re: What's Going On With Madonna?

There was a thread about this already
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/133445-Madonna-has-been-posting-a-lot-about-Michael-lately

I personally think she misses Michael, like many others.

I don't know what she means by this which was with that photoshopped picture?
madonna
9 hours ago
I Can't I Con ---2 letters apart. #****yousaying #sorrynotsorry

I con = Icon?
Anyone has any thoughts meaning of I Can't I Con ---2 letters apart?

Thanks Bubs. I did not realize a thread was already started a while back. I didn't see it. Sorry.:blush:

I don't understand what she means by that caption above that latest picture either.

MODS - Can you merge this thread with the previous Madonna thread referenced above? Thanks.

 

[Tony R]

Re: What's Going On With Madonna?

Love them both. King & Queen.

Would love to see something creative out of this.

Whatever she does though, most will find fault & say she's jumping on the bandwagon. Although 30 years and 75 Top 10 hits tells me she doesn't need to ride anyone's coat-tails.

Also the photo is Madonna from the video for 'Human Nature', Michael also had song of the same name....

I Can't - I Con must be reference to them both being icons.

The other hashtag may be a reference to 'I'm not sorry', a lyric from Madonna's Human Nature.

 

[Bubs]

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Love them both. King & Queen.

Would love to see something creative out of this.

Whatever she does though, most will find fault & say she's jumping on the bandwagon. Although 30 years and 75 Top 10 hits tells me she doesn't need to ride anyone's coat-tails.

Also the photo is Madonna from the video for 'Human Nature', Michael also had song of the same name....

I Can't - I Con must be reference to them both being icons.

The other hashtag may be a reference to 'I'm not sorry', a lyric from Madonna's Human Nature.

Yeah, it was clipped from this photo

Madonna was controversial when she came to music business, and I believe thats the way it goes til' the end, and that I think is the reason people don't like her about.

I think she is constantly around MJ's music and reminded of him because her son is huge fan of Michael's, so that could be the reason for her photos and references of MJ? Or maybe she thinks Michael was the one that got away


Damn, when she posts these thingys, they should come with explanations:scratch:

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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Madonna may be called the queen of pop and she's been successful for many decades, I give her that but it gives me the impression she's wanted to put herself into the same league Michael is, she's not and she isn't Michael's female equivalent if we talk about reigns. I may be wrong in that impression but I've thought about it for many years. I saw that photoshopped picture yesterday and her caption made no sense to me either.

 

[souldreamer7]

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Thanks Bubs. I did not realize a thread was already started a while back. I didn't see it. Sorry.:blush:

I don't understand what she means by that caption above that latest picture either.

MODS - Can you merge this thread with the previous Madonna thread referenced above? Thanks.

Hello @GreenEyes @Bubs I'll see if I can get this message to move or merge
the threads together possibly. There's no one who merges threads online right now. Thank guys.

On another note I seen this when it was being posted on instagram too.

Love them both. King & Queen.

Would love to see something creative out of this.

Whatever she does though, most will find fault & say she's jumping on the bandwagon. Although 30 years and 75 Top 10 hits tells me she doesn't need to ride anyone's coat-tails.

Also the photo is Madonna from the video for 'Human Nature', Michael also had song of the same name....

I Can't - I Con must be reference to them both being icons.

The other hashtag may be a reference to 'I'm not sorry', a lyric from Madonna's Human Nature.

Yes, It's from Madonna's video Human Nature. Here:



Michael Jackson "Scream"



As for the other photo Madonna first posted via instagram of her & Michael is at the 1991 Academy Awards HERE:




@ GreenEyes I'm not sure about what she typed with the photo? I think Madonna is trying to get ppl to 'think' in some way..? a open your mind thing perhaps? That sounds like Madonna.. I'm not sure. I don't think she means anything bad though, I don't get that feeling. I'm not sure...
madonna
2 weeks ago
Time is a whore she screws everyone! H.B

http://instagram.com/p/sU9WfBmEVO/?modal=true

http://instagram.com/madonna

 

[speeddemon88]

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Im also wondering why is she posting so many pictures with Michael, but I dont mind. I have always considered her the biggest female pop artist, and always will. She has been active for so many years and always in a modern way and I dont care about what others say about her or her personality. I also believe that to be a woman in the music business and survive u have to be a b**** sometimes.
Ive never even thought about Janet as rival to Madonna, their music was completely different imo but when i saw the MTV awards where Scream won over Human nature I immediately thought those two videos and outfits were very similar, so Im not surprised about this picture.

 

[karom]

Re: Madonna has been posting a lot about Michael lately

:sigh: Whatever her reasons for doing this, I just feel jealous that she actually HAS pictures with him to post. :lol: I wish I'd met him.

 

[souldreamer7]

Re: Madonna has been posting a lot about Michael lately

Im also wondering why is she posting so many pictures with Michael, but I dont mind. I have always considered her the biggest female pop artist, and always will. She has been active for so many years and always in a modern way and I dont care about what others say about her or her personality. I also believe that to be a woman in the music business and survive u have to be a b**** sometimes.
Ive never even thought about Janet as rival to Madonna, their music was completely different imo but when i saw the MTV awards where Scream won over Human nature I immediately thought those two videos and outfits were very similar, so Im not surprised about this picture.

Maybe when Madonna released "Human Nature" video for that song and Michael & Janet did the video for "Scream" - The style the fashion etc. was just of the times... and I'm not taking away from Michael's originality & the
and pioneering for "Scream" Sometimes these things happen in 'Art' Fashion.. etc. Sign of the times thing..

 

[ScaredOfTheMoon]

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Maybe she's feeling bad about them not getting along/Michael not wanting to do a song with her. After his death she also did a speech saying how they all let him down. Maybe she feels bad for being one of the people who let him down. Who knows?

 

[Electro]

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Maybe she's feeling bad about them not getting along/Michael not wanting to do a song with her. After his death she also did a speech saying how they all let him down. Maybe she feels bad for being one of the people who let him down. Who knows?

As far as i remember Michael wanted her on the "In The Closet" song. But they didn't come together with it artistically. They met several times thats for sure. Not just for that Oscar Award Show.

 

[ScaredOfTheMoon]

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Madonna wanted them to cross dress and Michael didn't want to do that.

 

[JEMFTV]

Re: Madonna has been posting a lot about Michael lately

Madonna met Michael once in the studio, don't know if it waw the early 90's or the mid-90's. But according to one geaeslutz member, the two went into Michael's private room and talked for about an minute. After she left, Michael allegedly went out of the room with an scared face.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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^Oh yeah, I remember that. I consider myself a LGBTT ally but Madonna's idea would had made ITC so vulgar, Michael never needed to sell shamelessly sex to be more famous.

I won't forgive she called Michael space drag queen but I give her props for her speech because she seemed sincere and regretful. About people needing to be bitches in order to survive music industry, Michael proved that assumption is wrong because he survived for many more years than she has, he was smarter, creative and a class act, at his age and having all those decades in the industry, he didn't need to prove anything. The problem was the envious people who still wants a piece of his colossal fame.

 

[souldreamer7]

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I remember the whole story behind In The Closet etc. and her Speech & The Tapes of Michael speaking of her..
Yeah, They've meet before that picture at the Academy awards. I read in I think Jermaine's book she would hang out with the Jacksons during the Victory Tour she was staying at the same hotel.. She had used one of their keyboard players in her band then.. I would like to think that they both grew older & have had better thoughts on each other.. I believe so.
Here's a photo of them in 80's from my MJ tumblr.

 

[AtlasAir]

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Madonna's idea would had made ITC so vulgar, Michael never needed to sell shamelessly sex to be more famous.

While I agree the video didn't sound like a good idea from a creative standpoint, how do you figure being in drag is more vulgar than what the actual video turned out to be?

Not that I was prudish about the final product or anything, but I feel you're giving him and Naomi Campbell a pass in the video JUST because it's an MJ video (whereas you wouldn't if it were someone else).

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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And I'll say this again, Madonna does'nt do anything in a public space without there being a calculated reason behind it. I just have this feeling that some sort of an association with Michael is gonna be evident in her upcoming project. I wouldn't be surprised if a 'duet' pops up on her album.

This is Madonna people.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: Madonna has been posting a lot about Michael lately

In the Justify My Love video she crossed dressed (unless, I mistook her for her dancers) and it was deliberately controversial and a little vulgar. While ITC was sexy, sexual at some point but it didn't cross the line to be vulgar. What Madonna did specially in the 90's was more in your face and creating a shock value. She does it sometimes but it isn't new anymore. Michael was sensual and sexual in some of his performances but you never saw him doing that to compensate lack of singing, dancing or showmanship in general, unlike Madonna.

 

[speeddemon88]

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Everyone is mentioning ITC but what about the ending dance sequence from Black or White video which had to be removed ?
If Madonna were with Michael in the ITC video I think that would have been the most controversial video of the century lol

 

[GreenEyes]

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Everyone is mentioning ITC but what about the ending dance sequence from Black or White video which had to be removed ?
If Madonna were with Michael in the ITC video I think that would have been the most controversial video of the century lol

I agree. Michael knew how to get people talking with some controversy. The Panther Dance, You Are Not Alone video (angel scene - cough, cough), They Don't Really Care About Us, The History Teaser, etc. He and Madonna together... whatever they could have come up with, it would have been pretty shocking.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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The panther dance sequence wasn't completely Michael's idea, Vincent Paterson coreographed it too. At least he didn't appear naked (he had special underwear in YANA) doing sadomasochistic stuff like Madonna in Erotica.

 

[GreenEyes]

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The panther dance sequence wasn't completely Michael's idea, Vincent Paterson coreographed it too. At least he didn't appear naked (he had special underwear in YANA) doing sadomasochistic stuff like Madonna in Erotica.

If Madonna had her way... she'd have him all tied up with some real kinky S & M gear. You know it.

BTW.... Michael was totally naked in the edited out angel scene in YANA video. They had to digitally remove his manhood from the scene. And still it was too racy to air on TV.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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^I read Michael wore that special underwear but if he was naked in that scene you're talking about, it wasn't as tacky as the concept Madonna had been coming up since 1990, her Sex photobook, etc. I used to be a fan of hers when I was a child but once I became fluent enough to understand the lyrics of her songs, it disappointed me how frivolous and sexual were many of them and I stopped.

 

[Victory22]

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"All I could think about in that moment was that I had abandoned him. That we had abandoned him. That we had allowed this magnificent creature that once set the world on fire to somehow slip through the cracks. While he was trying to build a family and rebuild his career, we were all busy passing judgment. Most of us had turned our backs on him."

Thank you Madonna you won my respect when you said those words publically.

 

[AtlasAir]

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BTW.... Michael was totally naked in the edited out angel scene in YANA video. They had to digitally remove his manhood from the scene. And still it was too racy to air on TV.

Nah, he wore flesh colored underwear, like most people do for scenes like this.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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"All I could think about in that moment was that I had abandoned him. That we had abandoned him. That we had allowed this magnificent creature that once set the world on fire to somehow slip through the cracks. While he was trying to build a family and rebuild his career, we were all busy passing judgment. Most of us had turned our backs on him."

Thank you Madonna you won my respect when you said those words publically.

You know who I expected to utter words as passionate as this? his family, so called friends, but it was Madonna who expressed herself the best out of all of them. Not a Madonna fan but she did impress me with those words.

 

[GreenEyes]

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Nah, he wore flesh colored underwear, like most people do for scenes like this.

That's not what was reported back when this first surfaced back in the 1990's. It was a big controversy then, I remember.

Here is the story:

JACKSON HAS VIDEO SURGERY

BY Helen Kennedy /

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS/

Friday, July 28, 1995, 12:00 AM

The King of Pop came this close to becoming the King of Porn. Computer whizzes scrambled to digitally alter a shot in Michael Jackson's new video that shows the superstar floating naked in water. According to the Los Angeles Times, producers panicked after they discovered the scene from the video "You Are Not Alone" shows just a little too much of the 36-year-old singer. The offending anatomy was cut from the shot via computer magic, the paper said. The video, produced to promote Jackson's latest album, "HIStory," is due to premiere at 9:30 tonight simultaneously on ABC, MTV and BET. With typical modesty, the 30-minute special is called "Michael Jackson changes HIStory.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/*****-video-surgery-article-1.701706#ixzz2YtdX4Imw

Watch and judge yourself. He was naked, but it was done tastefully... like a beautiful moving statue or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxD9A1YTJig

Unfortunately, I was not there to witness this for myself. :angry:

 

[GreenEyes]

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"All I could think about in that moment was that I had abandoned him. That we had abandoned him. That we had allowed this magnificent creature that once set the world on fire to somehow slip through the cracks. While he was trying to build a family and rebuild his career, we were all busy passing judgment. Most of us had turned our backs on him."

Thank you Madonna you won my respect when you said those words publically.

I agree. It was sort of a punch in the gut to many who knew they were guilty of letting him slip away.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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The New York Daily News is a tabloid, I wouldn't trust it much as a source. Madonna has shown over the years her moves are calculated but I want to believe she was sincere for the most in that speech, it quite touching and it made me cry. Although Michael had a complete different impression when they went to the restaurant together.

 

[barbee0715]

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In the Justify My Love video she crossed dressed (unless, I mistook her for her dancers) and it was deliberately controversial and a little vulgar. While ITC was sexy, sexual at some point but it didn't cross the line to be vulgar. What Madonna did specially in the 90's was more in your face and creating a shock value. She does it sometimes but it isn't new anymore. Michael was sensual and sexual in some of his performances but you never saw him doing that to compensate lack of singing, dancing or showmanship in general, unlike Madonna.

I'm not a MTV kid-I'm actually in Michael and Madonna's generation-so I was in my prime back when they were. So I wasn't familiar with "Justify My Love" and went over to look at it tonight. Madonna didn't cross dress in it, but it actually reminded me more of the Fellini/Bob Fosse Cabaret stuff in the 70's. Which, at the time, was super shocking. I see now, though, why Michael was making videos like "In the Closet" since he was more than aware of the competition.
I personally never thought "ITC" was that sensual, since Michael smiled all through it, and it looked like he was about to crack up laughing. Now if his expression had been the one he used in "Dirty Diana" or especially "TWYMMF"-yes.
THAT one, for me, was a total shocker-it was all grainy and the closeups of Tatiana made her look absolutely terrified-and a bunch of guys cornering her in the alley? I watched the premiere of that one with my hand at my throat, horrified. And the Panther Dance-later on-my big chance to introduce my little niece and nephews to Michael and the song is great, the dance is great, and then boom-we're in another dark alley with a lamp post, a cobblestone street-and I sweated out the next six minutes. All the while I'm thinking it's probably full of deep symbolism (and it was), but at the same time I'm exposing the kids to porn!
Michael, having absorbed all of this show business savvy, was the absolute perfect manipulator with this though-he really wanted people talking and as he said to Diane Sawyer, it's what he wanted. It fell right in his lap according to plan.
Oh, and by the way, a few months after the world premier of "TWYMMF", I saw him perform it again on the Grammy's and this time I could see the dance and song for what it was-one of the greatest flirt fests of all time to one of the greatest songs of all time.