MJ Estate versus Melissa Johnson and HTWF /Update: Settlement Enforced - HTWF lost the Appeal

[Diplomate]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

If I'm Jackson insider then you are Branca's brother.

Waouuuuuuu! Cool, I gonna ask my brother some money so :lol:

 

[Big Apple2]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Michael did fired this guy and Tom Messareu pointed out facts that Branca was stealing from Michael. How he could trust him again after all? An audit needs to be done on these guys.
And by the way the children and Katherine ARE the Estate, the lawyers work for them not the other way around.

And that has never been in dispute.

The fact of the matter is that, since Ivy was nice enough to post excerpts from John Branca's recent deposition, Katherine Jackson and Michael's children have already benefited from NINE MILLION DOLLARS from the Estate.

I'm sure she would rather have had that NINE MILLION DOLLARS given to her in cash, so that she can dole it out to certain members of her family. LOL!

NINE MILLION DOLLARS. Oops! Katherine just got busted!

 

[Ben]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Mesereau pointed out that there was suspicion, that an investigation took place, and the answer is quite clear as far as the result goes : no proof. I'm not saying Branca is an angel, I obviously dont know him, but so far, there's nothing I can hold against him.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

I know that Katherine, Steven, Joe, their porn pal, and mental bff Melissa wish the Estate lawyers were as stupid, incompetent, and dumb as their own i.g Oxman LOL!

 

[maral]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Because the MJ Estate has Michael's best interests at heart where as his family only has theirs

sad but true. i don't know exactly what happend in 03 to make Michael let Branca go (new fan here) but i do believe he is doing a good job with the estate. all this talk about fake will was just that, talk, no proof. and frankly the Jacksons has been all over the place. first the will was fake, then there were body dubles used in TII, they didn't say anything when sony made a fiasco with the song "This Is It" but went hey hoj about fake songs on the new album without any proof or law suet. i mean come on... it took them month MONTH to lei Michael to rest.

 

[Hess]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Is something happening today??

 

[Tipareth]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Katherine's being brainwashed. She's not completely blameless, but she is walking on a territory she doesn't know too much, if anything about -- the business world --, at such an advanced age too. I wish the Jackson brothers could step in (bar Randy and Jermaine, preferably) and have a proper operational say in all this mess.

unfortunately those 2 are the ones doing the brainwashing, among others of course.... :doh:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

and Tom Messareu pointed out facts that Branca was stealing from Michael.

er no he didnt. at least stick to the facts cause otherwise it makes your argument even more pointless

 

[classic]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

My point was: Mr. Jackson had expressed concern about Mr. Branca's loyalty. This is why Katherine claims that MJ's Executor STOLE From Him If Michael told his mother that he did not trust Branca why Katherine has to trust him?

Problem with that is that it appears to be a statement attributed to Konitzer and not necessarily directly from Michael. That is a big difference. It is like now when people are all over the place stating what Michael said and/or felt. Just because someone says that Michael said that does not make it true.

 

[Tipareth]

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Hmmmm, I am begining to feel that maybe Mike did a mistake leaving the kids to Kath custody. . . ?

I am really beginning to think that Debbie maybe would made a better choice... At least now, after 2 years, yeah know just observing some troubling facts. Debbie has no other children than the two, Prince and Paris. I think she would have been better choice for the 3 of them.



I know I might be cursed around here because of that. LOL But only recently I've changed my mind and begun to see things differently... Katherine always seemed such a great choice, but not anymore....

Mike's wishes are trashed one after another, the public drama is becoming more and more pathetic, and I fear the kids are being indoctrinated against their own father ( being presented to his kids as sad, drugged, manipulated ) It's very serious matter, that would touch up those kids spirits forever.

 

[ivy]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Is something happening today??

witnesses are filing their statements. Katherine's is reported earlier today. John Branca just filed his.

 

[virginia_woolf]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

i don't know exactly what happend in 03 to make Michael let Branca go

I don't think Michael fired Branca in 2003, did he? I remember very well that he thanked JB in Ultimate Collection booklet and Branca was working for Michael until 2006.

 

[prettygirlmj]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Eh. I always said Katherine was just as greedy as Joe for standing by and letting her kids be mentally and physically abused by their father. It's all about $$$$. This doesn't shock me. And as I said from day 1, those kids would have been better off with Diana Ross. She was his second choice. I know Michael loved his mother but he put her up in a pesdastal just because she didn't hit him. She manipulated him into doing the Pepsi commercial as well as doing The Victory Tour. She was just as much as an abuser as Joe. I'm sorry Michael *looking up to the heaven's* but that's my opinion honey. You never learned what true love was until you met Elizabeth, Paris, Prince and Blanket. You were screwed over in life and now in death the same thing is happening.

And now she's is bashing John Branca? John isn't your enemy Katherine, it's the sucking vampires who surround YOU and your son's children for profit. Don't be so ignorant. Investigate before you talk.

 

[chanel05]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

because he is black...

MJ had a major fall out with John Mclain after 2003...but the Jacksons never mention it.

Coincidence?? I think now....They are going after the white guy.

It's not because he is black, everything isn't about race... They have known McClain for a long time. He even used to work with Janet back in her Control, Rhythmn Nation days.

The way I see it, the more money the Estate makes, the more they make too. And about McClain, isnt he a long time friend of the family?

Yea he is a long time family friend.

I don't think Michael fired Branca in 2003, did he? I remember very well that he thanked JB in Ultimate Collection booklet and Branca was working for Michael until 2006.

I think he was fired in 2006 but I wonder why. The Casios also said that MJ didn't like McClain either. I wish MJ would've kept his will more up to date so this wouldn't be an issue.

Doesn't Mann own some of MJ and the families memorabilia??

 

[bluetopez]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Oh REALLY? The only thing John Branca cares about is getting the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands...at any cost. Branca was in cohorts with Sony Records & Tommy mafia Mottola while he was working for Michael. And everybody who followed this story knows that. If the family will say anything I am afraid they will die in some freak accident, kids included.

What do the Family need to say about it if "everybody who followed this story knows that" already as u state!? lol

There's a lot of hearsay and no proof! That includes rumors about the WILL! Which they did nothing with proof to stop mind you!

If The family is so concerned about Branca then they need to investigate why MJ kept him around after the investigation that was mentioned in MJ's 05 trial that u speak of!

Because he was fired in 06, 3 yrs after he was investigated! Explain that please! Obviously, MJ kept him around because he didn't find any serious reason to let him go at that time! Also the fact that it was Konitzer involved in putting that suspicion in MJ's head about Branca isn't anything to be going on about cause Konitzer is B.S! His ass is even more shady!

 

[virginia_woolf]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson - Updates
Updates in the above titled case:

- As an MJ Estate witness Karen Langford made a testify as well. She talked lot about MJ's past and things John Branca's testimony had. The most interesting part of her testimony was a list of companies whom MJ signed for manufacturing merchandises: Sony Signatures, MJ Net Entertainment, MJ Licensing LLC, AEG Live LLC (considering the cloud around MJ Licensing especially).

- Felix Sebacious made his statements on behalf of Bravado. He revealed that the first discussions between AEG and Bravado about the MJ themed merchandises started in March, 2009. Tom Bennett, president of Bravado personally presented MJ with the 300 items designed for his tour at Los Angeles. He says that since MJ's death they are serving as manufacturors as well they give the licensing rights to third parties with the prior consent of the MJ Estate. At the moment there are appr. 22 third party licenses for manufacturing MJ themed merchandises. Bravado blocked appr. 200.000 auctions on eBay since MJ's death due to copyright infrignment. Furthermore Bravado commenced more then 15 lawsuits against 50 defendants and seized over 7.500 items.
In August, 2009 Bravado even filed a lawsuit against Merrick Mint Inc. whom manufactured MJ coins based on a licensing agreement made with Johnson.
Since MJ's death more than 9 figures in retail dollar value of authorised, official MJ merchandises has been sold.

- Jeffrey Smith from Greenberg Traurig made a witness testify. Other than providing huge number of information on the MJ trademarks he didn't said anything new.

- Amongst the witnesses Evan S. Spiegel made his testify. He was the legal counsel of MJ between 1984 and 2005. He testified that Johnson has been reported by Evvy Tavasci in 2002 as harassing MJ and his family, employees. Like sending packages to MJ with Tavasci's return address on, or appearing at his home at Neverland. Johnson sent letters to Tavasci saying the she has been told by an "angel" that along with MJ she has to work on Heal The World Foundation. She furthermore stated the HTWF foundation won't go forward without her, and that someday, somehow she will work on that with MJ. After she has been threated by MJ's lawyers Johnson apologised but claimed that she won't stop reaching out to MJ.
Being frustrated Johnson started to collect MJ related domains and then selling them to MJJ. In June, 2003 MJJ decided to buy 850+ domain names from Johnson, in an agreement saying that she doesn't have any rights in the intellectual property.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/04/michael-jackson-estate-vs-melissa_9512.html

 

[virginia_woolf]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Oh REALLY? The only thing John Branca cares about is getting the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands...at any cost. Branca was in cohorts with Sony Records & Tommy mafia Mottola while he was working for Michael. And everybody who followed this story knows that. If the family will say anything I am afraid they will die in some freak accident, kids included.

And you think the catalog is safe with the Jacksons in charge? Michael's own brother tried to force him to sell the catalog.
It's much safer with McClain&Branca who said it's not for sale.

 

[missred07]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Oh REALLY? The only thing John Branca cares about is getting the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands...at any cost. Branca was in cohorts with Sony Records & Tommy mafia Mottola while he was working for Michael. And everybody who followed this story knows that. If the family will say anything I am afraid they will die in some freak accident, kids included.

um??? Really. Yes, I heard all this speculation for years however, until I really see Branca hands over the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands, I hold nothing against him. There is also no evidence saying Branca was doing that, all I know is this is a speculation for many years. Maybe someone can update me with some solid evidence.

On the other hand, Branca is not only work for MJ. He also works for lots of artists throughout the years. If he did do some nasty things behind his client's back, I believe it would taint his reputation as a lawyer. This is the reason I don't believe 100% those speculations.

I don't think Branca is an angle and he might have his agenda. However, he need to do his job to get profit for himself. Through all these years I just didn't see any solid evidence to prove all those speculations.

By the way, Randy tried to convinced MJ to sell the catalog during the trial. Is the catalogs safer with the Jacksons???

 

[chanel05]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson - Updates
Updates in the above titled case:

- As an MJ Estate witness Karen Langford made a testify as well. She talked lot about MJ's past and things John Branca's testimony had. The most interesting part of her testimony was a list of companies whom MJ signed for manufacturing merchandises: Sony Signatures, MJ Net Entertainment, MJ Licensing LLC, AEG Live LLC (considering the cloud around MJ Licensing especially).

- Felix Sebacious made his statements on behalf of Bravado. He revealed that the first discussions between AEG and Bravado about the MJ themed merchandises started in March, 2009. Tom Bennett, president of Bravado personally presented MJ with the 300 items designed for his tour at Los Angeles. He says that since MJ's death they are serving as manufacturors as well they give the licensing rights to third parties with the prior consent of the MJ Estate. At the moment there are appr. 22 third party licenses for manufacturing MJ themed merchandises. Bravado blocked appr. 200.000 auctions on eBay since MJ's death due to copyright infrignment. Furthermore Bravado commenced more then 15 lawsuits against 50 defendants and seized over 7.500 items.
In August, 2009 Bravado even filed a lawsuit against Merrick Mint Inc. whom manufactured MJ coins based on a licensing agreement made with Johnson.
Since MJ's death more than 9 figures in retail dollar value of authorised, official MJ merchandises has been sold.

- Jeffrey Smith from Greenberg Traurig made a witness testify. Other than providing huge number of information on the MJ trademarks he didn't said anything new.

- Amongst the witnesses Evan S. Spiegel made his testify. He was the legal counsel of MJ between 1984 and 2005. He testified that Johnson has been reported by Evvy Tavasci in 2002 as harassing MJ and his family, employees. Like sending packages to MJ with Tavasci's return address on, or appearing at his home at Neverland. Johnson sent letters to Tavasci saying the she has been told by an "angel" that along with MJ she has to work on Heal The World Foundation. She furthermore stated the HTWF foundation won't go forward without her, and that someday, somehow she will work on that with MJ. After she has been threated by MJ's lawyers Johnson apologised but claimed that she won't stop reaching out to MJ.
Being frustrated Johnson started to collect MJ related domains and then selling them to MJJ. In June, 2003 MJJ decided to buy 850+ domain names from Johnson, in an agreement saying that she doesn't have any rights in the intellectual property.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/04/michael-jackson-estate-vs-melissa_9512.html

Wow! Thanks for the info

 

[ivy]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

- Amongst the witnesses Evan S. Spiegel made his testify. He was the legal counsel of MJ between 1984 and 2005. He testified that Johnson has been reported by Evvy Tavasci in 2002 as harassing MJ and his family, employees. Like sending packages to MJ with Tavasci's return address on, or appearing at his home at Neverland. Johnson sent letters to Tavasci saying the she has been told by an "angel" that along with MJ she has to work on Heal The World Foundation. She furthermore stated the HTWF foundation won't go forward without her, and that someday, somehow she will work on that with MJ. After she has been threated by MJ's lawyers Johnson apologised but claimed that she won't stop reaching out to MJ.
Being frustrated Johnson started to collect MJ related domains and then selling them to MJJ. In June, 2003 MJJ decided to buy 850+ domain names from Johnson, in an agreement saying that she doesn't have any rights in the intellectual property.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/04/michael-jackson-estate-vs-melissa_9512.html

Let me give a little more detail about Evan Spiegel's statement

- 2002 Michael's assitant Evvy Tavasci notifies Spiegel about the letters she and other MJ's staff received from Melissa Johnson. Melissa also send a package to Michael with Evy's name. Spiegel looks to these items (one of which is the letter in which Melissa writes that an "angel" told her that she would work for HTWF) and asks another lawyer - Brian Wolf to send a letter to Johnson asking to stop contacting people.
- Melissa responds to Wolf's letter as well as Evvy Tavasci apologizing but states that she doesn't believe Michael was disturbed and she won't stop contacting Michael.
- After she understand that Michael no interest in her and HTWF, she tries to sell the domain names she registered (without authorization) to Michael.
- As the negotiations were taking some time and people really weren't responding to all her demands , she sends a email to Spiegel insulting him calling "flippant and insulting".
- 1 year later in 2003 Melissa contacts Evvy Tavasci once again to sell the 850 + domain names.
- The sale happens in 2003 with Michael paying $26,726 for domain names and Melissa signing a document saying she did this on her initiative and she transfer her rights on the domains to Michael.
- 1 year later in 2004 Melissa once again contact Spiegel about the "charity book" she gave them as she was concerned about its safety.
- Spiegel tells her that book and the domains are handled appropriately. Spiegel also tells her they cannot tell her anything about their communications with Michael (about these stuff) as it was privileged.
- Melissa again responds with a rude email to Spiegel saying that he was "bullying" her and had other accusations and derogatory statements towards him.
- Spiegel also says that Melissa thought transferring the domains were "millions of dollars worth donation to Michael's charity" but he doesn't see the logic in this as Michael paid to get those domains.

 

[prettygirlmj]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

um??? Really. Yes, I heard all this speculation for years however, until I really see Branca hands over the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands, I hold nothing against him. There is also no evidence saying Branca was doing that, all I know is this is a speculation for many years. Maybe someone can update me with some solid evidence.

On the other hand, Branca is not only work for MJ. He also works for lots of artists throughout the years. If he did do some nasty things behind his client's back, I believe it would taint his reputation as a lawyer. This is the reason I don't believe 100% those speculations.

I don't think Branca is an angle and he might have his agenda. However, he need to do his job to get profit for himself. Through all these years I just didn't see any solid evidence to prove all those speculations.

By the way, Randy tried to convinced MJ to sell the catalog during the trial. Is the catalogs safer with the Jacksons???

I agree. People are believing too much in those conspiracy blogs out there on the net. They are opinions by people written by people - not facts. Branca has not sold The Beatles catalogue despite some of the debts Michael left behind. Until he does sell it, I don't see anything wrong with Branca.

Randy, Jermiaine, Katherine(and the vampires around her), LaToya, Joe....those are the one's I question at all times.

 

[Graf]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Oh REALLY? The only thing John Branca cares about is getting the Beatles catalog back into Sony's hands...at any cost. Branca was in cohorts with Sony Records & Tommy mafia Mottola while he was working for Michael. And everybody who followed this story knows that. If the family will say anything I am afraid they will die in some freak accident, kids included.

It's not "The Beatles" catalog, It's the Sony/ATV Catalog...If, they wanted to get rid of the Catalog, they would have done it after Michael had passed as an excuse to get rid of debt...The estate, which Branca is APART of have decided to keep it because it is one of the biggest money generating assets. The Catalog generates MILLIONS for Michael's estate and they will not get rid of it...Even if the executors became temporary insane and tried to, a judge would stop that decision, unless the catalog is deemed worthless (Which will never happen). As time has marched on the Estate has made tons of money/cleared dept and there is absolutely no reason to get rid of a catalog that Generates millions. Think about it...

As far as your Mafia comment...I don't know what to say to that.

I agree. People are believing too much in those conspiracy blogs out there on the net. They are opinions by people written by people - not facts.

Quoted for truth.

 

[loveforever]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

John Branca just filed his witness statement in the case with the court. He says

- Michael started working with Bravado through AEG before his death for TII concerts. He says that Michael personally approved 295 designs.
- Branca says after Micheal's death as the estate they took over the agreement with Bravado from AEG and worked on modifying it as the situation changed. Court approved this modified merchandise agreement.
- Branca says during these modifications, negotiations, court review etc was happening with Bravado on August 7, 2009 he received a letter from HTWF's lawyer.
- HTWF's lawyer tells Branca that HTWF owns those trademarks (such as MJ, Michael Jackson, King of Pop used) in the merchandise and Estate and Triumph Inc. didn't own them.
- They see this letter as an effort from HTWF to hurt and stop the deal with Bravado.
- Branca asks a law firm to contact HTWF. Discussions go on and Estate doesn't agree with HTWF's claim that they own the trademarks.
- so they file a lawsuit very similar to other hundreds of lawsuit they filed through their lawyers and Bravado's lawyers all around the world to protect Michael's trademarks and right of publicity.
- Branca mentions Oxman's conflict of interest and how he represents Joe against the Estate.
- Branca mentions Mann, what he has done and their lawsuit against him.
- Branca mentions although it's not relevant to this case he wants to state on his and McClain's behalf that for the 16 month period of June 2009 to October 2010, Estate distributed or paid more than $9 Million for the benefit of Katherine and MJ's children and rejects the claims that Estate isn't properly caring for them.
- Branca mentions Melissa Johnson's so called "revival" of HTWF and how they didn't approve the revival of 1991 charity.
- He calls her "bizarre" and "obsessive", mentions how she got a message from an "angel" or "spirit", calls her books and charity objectives "grandiose and unworkable", says that she showed "disdain" towards anyone that doesn't agree with her demands and calls her actions "questionable". He finishes with saying she's not someone that him and McClain would ever want or ever allow to "represent" Michael's charitable legacy in any way.

I'll quote Branca's exact words so that you can understand how he sees Michael's charitable legacy.

"Mr. Jackson had been known throughout the world during his life, and quite correctly, to be an extraordinary charitable man. Mr. McClain and I intend to honor as best as possible Mr. Jackson's last charitable bequest as provided in the Jackson Trust in a manner that will reinforce, enhance and emphasize Mr. Jackson's reputation and memory. Mr. Jackson's last charitable bequest should be as great a memorial and testimony to his achievements and to him as is his incredible body of creative work that he has left behind. There has not yet been any final decision made as to the manner in which Mr. Jackson's last charitable gift will be carried out."​

Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson - Updates
Updates in the above titled case:

- As an MJ Estate witness Karen Langford made a testify as well. She talked lot about MJ's past and things John Branca's testimony had. The most interesting part of her testimony was a list of companies whom MJ signed for manufacturing merchandises: Sony Signatures, MJ Net Entertainment, MJ Licensing LLC, AEG Live LLC (considering the cloud around MJ Licensing especially).

- Felix Sebacious made his statements on behalf of Bravado. He revealed that the first discussions between AEG and Bravado about the MJ themed merchandises started in March, 2009. Tom Bennett, president of Bravado personally presented MJ with the 300 items designed for his tour at Los Angeles. He says that since MJ's death they are serving as manufacturors as well they give the licensing rights to third parties with the prior consent of the MJ Estate. At the moment there are appr. 22 third party licenses for manufacturing MJ themed merchandises. Bravado blocked appr. 200.000 auctions on eBay since MJ's death due to copyright infrignment. Furthermore Bravado commenced more then 15 lawsuits against 50 defendants and seized over 7.500 items.
In August, 2009 Bravado even filed a lawsuit against Merrick Mint Inc. whom manufactured MJ coins based on a licensing agreement made with Johnson.
Since MJ's death more than 9 figures in retail dollar value of authorised, official MJ merchandises has been sold.

- Jeffrey Smith from Greenberg Traurig made a witness testify. Other than providing huge number of information on the MJ trademarks he didn't said anything new.

- Amongst the witnesses Evan S. Spiegel made his testify. He was the legal counsel of MJ between 1984 and 2005. He testified that Johnson has been reported by Evvy Tavasci in 2002 as harassing MJ and his family, employees. Like sending packages to MJ with Tavasci's return address on, or appearing at his home at Neverland. Johnson sent letters to Tavasci saying the she has been told by an "angel" that along with MJ she has to work on Heal The World Foundation. She furthermore stated the HTWF foundation won't go forward without her, and that someday, somehow she will work on that with MJ. After she has been threated by MJ's lawyers Johnson apologised but claimed that she won't stop reaching out to MJ.
Being frustrated Johnson started to collect MJ related domains and then selling them to MJJ. In June, 2003 MJJ decided to buy 850+ domain names from Johnson, in an agreement saying that she doesn't have any rights in the intellectual property.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/...issa_9512.html​

Thanks for the updates.

 

[missred07]

If Branca WAS FIRED by MJ TWICE (2003&2006?) why to put so much trust on this person. WHY????? Why don’t you think that Michael had a reason to fire him? I don’t believe that he was rehired one week before MJ was killed by an idiot Murray. All of it is just shady as hell & has to be investigated. I prefer to trust Katherine vs Branca.She is his mother.

1 Can you show me some evidence that Branca did do shady things behind MJ's back? "firing people" is not an evidence that John Branca did shady things behind MJ's back. Please show me some solid argument instead of speculations.

2 I didn't say I am fully trust John Branca, I just said for now, I didn't see any evidence to proof that he did something he shouldn't do. As I said before, he might have his agenda. However, as long as he did his job, I am not against him. He can take his cut if he earn money for the estate.

3 MJ had tendency to fired people constantly, does this mean we can't trust anyone he fired before??? I believe you can't trust anyone since MJ basically fired everyone who worked for him. Besides, how about MJ kept hiring him back for multiple times? If he can't trust him in some way, why keep hiring him back?

4 I am not saying I don't trust Katherine. I still tend to believe she is mis-informed and manipulated. However, on this HTWF issue, she is firing the gun to wrong people. Howard Mann and Johnson are shady people. It's better to stay away with these kind of people when you want to have a charity organization. BTW, The estate is "on probation", all her claims toward the estate not giving money to charity is quite nonsense.

Honestly, on this HTWF issue and the whole Howard Mann fiasco, I support the estate 100%. I hope the estate can take down all these shady people ASAP.

By the way, are you going to tell me you prefer to trust Joe and Jermaine??? since Joe is MJ's father and Jermaine is MJ's brother. It's a really weird standard.

 

[ivy]

Estate has filed their trial brief. They say that

- Michael never gave written authorization to Melissa Johnson (and Melissa Johnson, Mel Wilson and Brian Oxman all acknowledged this at their depositions).
- Again Oxman's conflict of interest - as he represented Joe against the executors - is mentioned.
- Estate raises serious concern about the letter Oxman gave to HTWF (in that letter Oxman states that Michael gave his verbal approval to Melissa Johnson). They say that Melissa Johnson never mentioned receiving a verbal authorization from Michael through Oxman until September 2010 (estate cites the previous important documents such as Melissa's objection to preliminary injunction and say that Oxman's name, his authorization etc was never mentioned). Estate questions the credibility of Oxman's letter and statements.
- Estate argues that even though Michael approved and “requested” Ms. Johnson to “preserve and protect it and HTWF's trademarks" as Oxman claims , she went extreme. They mention that Michael's 1991 charity only owned the trademark of "Heal the World" and associated logo (child hand holding the globe). They argue that registration of trademarks such as "Thriller", "King of pop" and selling merchandise with these goes beyond "preserving HTWF".
- Estate mentions emails from Melissa Johnson to Michael's representatives at 2008 - 2009 and that in those emails she asked for Michael's "permission" and "approval". They argue that this shows that she didn't have Michael's permission or approval (as she continued to ask for it) and knew this.
- Estate says as they represent Michael they can grant or terminate any authorization for the use of trademarks.
- Estate says that they have no plans to grant her any authorization as Melissa was acting against the Estate.
- A shocker (or perhaps not) : Estate mentions an email Melissa sent to Jackson's lawyers on August 6, 2009 saying "with the trademarks that the charity has registered and pending first in line, the Jackson family can take back control of the estate, without contesting the will."
- This is the same date HTWF lawyer sends a letter to Branca saying that HTWF owns the trademarks and Triumph and Estate doesn't.
- They say even if Michael (licensor) authorized her (licensee) law doesn't allow licensee to use the rights against licensor (Michael = Michael Jackson Estate). In layman terms they say that "even if Michael gave her the rights to use a certain trademark, she can't legally use these rights to hurt Michael or his successor - the Estate".
- Estate mentions that she was never a director or officer of MJ's 91 HTWF. They mention that according to the rules of MJ's 91 HTWF, the director can be selected at an annual meeting or by writing. As Michael was the only permanent director and nominating committee member it would require a meeting that he attended or a document he signed.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Every times Katherine writes something, you get the idea that the person who told her what to say (Randy/Joe) is very inept, ignorant of the law and business in general. She writes a statement that is filled with character assassinations, thoughts, feelings, and hearsay which does not deal with the issues before the court. Where is her evidence and proof to show the Executors are at fault? Notice she brings in that Michael would want such and such--again her thoughts and no proof. Also, she includes the names of the children to show that her actions were all for them. Please. Who is going to stop a lawsuit because Joe and Randy's names are involved. Their involvement is proof enough to go swiftly ahead with the suit. This is getting very embarrassing and I wish Katherine would simply enjoy the legacy her son left for her.

 

[ivy]

ESTATE EXECUTORS’ STATEMENT

“We know that certain ludicrous statements were made recently that we won’t personally dignify with a response. We will continue to do our best to uphold and further the memory and legacy of Michael with the same passion that we have always held for him. We appreciate all of the support for Michael from his loyal and devoted fans.”

- John Branca and John McClain, Co-Executors, The Estate of Michael Jackson

 

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Katherine Jackson: The Declaration is a FRAUD!
45 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson is furious about a declaration filed with the court -- purportedly signed by her -- in which she attacks the Executors of the Michael Jackson Estate. TMZ has learned ... Katherine insists she never signed that declaration.

TMZ reported this morning ... a declaration filed in the Estate's lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation makes shocking allegations against John Branca, calling him a thief.

But Katherine's lawyer, Adam Streisand, tells TMZ, "Mrs. Jackson categorically denies signing any statement to the court that makes accusations against the executors of any wrongdoing with respect to her son or his estate."

Streisand adds, "She did not and would not make any such statements about the executors." And Streisand says, Katherine told him, "These are not my words."

Check out the signature on the declaration in question, dated April 6, 2011, and compare it to Katherine's signature from a legal doc on February 3, 2010.

As for the Heal the World Foundation lawyer -- Edgar Pease -- who filed the declaration in question, he tells TMZ someone from the Foundation faxed Katherine's manager the final copy of the document and it was then sent on to Pease with the signature in question.

Pease says if the signature is a fraud, "Heads will roll."

UPDATE: Pease just called us back to say Trent Jackson -- Joe Jackson's nephew and Katherine's caregiver -- told him he personally saw Katherine sign the declaration. But sources connected with the Estate say the declaration is suspicious, because the last page ONLY contains the signature, without any accompanying text. In other words, someone could have inserted the signature into a declaration Katherine never saw or approved.

http://www.tmz.com/2...dation-lawsuit/

 

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Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

^ What the heck? What is going on here? :wtf:

..Ivy?

 

[ivy]

Re: Update: MJ Estate files supplement to their complaint against Melissa Johnson and HTWF

Well first of all Adam Streisand is alive and well I have been asking for months where he was ehehe

2 options

1. HTWF prepared a statement and she signed it without knowing what she signed (or worse HTWF changed statements)
2. Damage control - deny deny deny. (insert Shaggy's "It wasn't me")