Russell Brand insults MJ @ Eddie M tribute

"Russell must have been on crack or something to even think that it is appropriate to make a jokes of Michael in event that is full of Michael's friends."

Wow! The event was full of Michael's friends and no one stopped that clown. No wonder Michael said he could count his friend on one hand.
 
Bubs;3734112 said:
I found little bit more info regarding reaction from Eddie and the crowd:
Russell Brand Bombs with Michael Jackson Joke:

What Russell Brand didn’t know is that Michael Jackson, child molestation jokes never went well with black audiences. Now after his untimely death, they really don’t go well. Brand launches into what he thinks is going to be a knee slapper, but the crowd thought otherwise,

“Michael Jackson is a genius, and you have to separate their genius from their hobbies, I’m just saying $20 million is a lot of money to give to a child he didn’t f***.”

WHOMP WHOMP. That joke got a wince from Eddie and a groan from the crowd.
http://www.tvsmacktalk.com/eddie-mu...e-his-new-girlfriend-and-russell-brands-bomb/

Thanks for that ^^, so glad the crowd made an audible protest. Finally there is something that we can hear. This crowd has done more than many of Michael's friends have done with their silence. Now that we have groans, I hope soon we will hear people from the crowds shouting "get your facts straight," "do some research." Maybe some in the crowd will scream out some website address for the fools to go to and get their documents.
 
Yes. good to see the tangible pro Michael Jackson reaction from the crowd. I hope Brand felt it. I see Stevie Wonder was there. I'd really like to know what Stevie thought. Now That man was a FRIEND to Michael.
 
This post is not about Michael but i've noticed that alot of British stand up comedians are obsessed with making ''pedophille jokes''. Whenever i see a collection of British comedians on the TV atleast 90% of them have to get atleast one ''pedophille joke'' in during their stand up routine. I fail to see what's so funny about saying ''Hahaha children get moleseted'' cause that's basicly what the ''joke'' is

Those kind of ''jokes'' are just not funny to me and anyone who thinks the ''jokes'' are funny are sick in the head
 
This post is not about Michael but i've noticed that alot of British stand up comedians are obsessed with making ''pedophille jokes''. Whenever i see a collection of British comedians on the TV atleast 90% of them have to get atleast one ''pedophille joke'' in during their stand up routine. I fail to see what's so funny about saying ''Hahaha children get moleseted'' cause that's basicly what the ''joke'' is

Those kind of ''jokes'' are just not funny to me and anyone who thinks the ''jokes'' are funny are sick in the head

Maybe the comedians, no matter which country they coming from, are frustrated pedophiles themselves, thus the jokes.
 
Over the past year I've found myself enjoying Russel on several occasions, it's really unfortunate when they have to step into this kind of territory.

However, I've told myself that in comedy almost anything is up for grabs, I try not to get offended by much, because I realize a lot of it is just for the purpose of shock and that nervous comedic value of "Wow, did you hear what he just said?"

One of my favorite shows is South Park, and yes a lot of you might think that show is tasteless, it's made fun of Michael in two episodes, one right after his death. However, I understand that is one of the sole purposes of the show, to offend anyone and everyone. I actually feel a little honored sometimes when they actually can offend me, because with my open mind it's very hard for me to be offended a lot of the time.

And really, they might not even really think Michael did molest children and are just saying it for that shock value. Which I agree, is offensive, rude and I would never do it. But I understand it. I laugh when comedians poke fun at other things that people actually believe or care about but I think is stupid, so I feel it's kind of hypocritical for me to get super pissed about something like this. I don't appreciate it, I don't think it was actually a funny joke while I think parts of the South Park episodes about Michael ARE funny, mostly 'The Jeffersons' episode, but I get it and understand that in comedy everything is up for grabs and you should be able to laugh at yourself sometimes.

So what, he's full of sh** and made a tasteless, rude joke at an Eddie Murphy event who happened to be friends with MJ. I don't think quite as much of him now, but I'm not going to turn my back on him and hate the guy just because he made a mistake. I saw him on Conan O'Brien the other night, I chuckled a few times, I forgive him and understand. He dressed up as Osama Bin Laden the day after 9/11, people. This is the kind of stuff he does. He's not a prophet, a genius, a modern messiah or music icon, but he can be funny on occasion and actually has more of an open mind than some people and might actually be willing to open up to the truth of Michael not being a pedophile. I hope he does!
 
Maybe the comedians, no matter which country they coming from, are frustrated pedophiles themselves, thus the jokes.

What I think happens is that the comedian wants to make a joke on a topic that is taboo, because they want to be nasty/debase. He cannot joke about pedophile so he veils the topic by including Michael, as though he is making a joke about Michael. What he is actually doing is making a joke about pedophile in a socially accepted way. Micheal is the convenient scapegoat here, because it is a known fact that you can say anything about Michael.

They do the same thing with jokes on rape and incest. They want to bring in a nasty/debase topic, so they encase it in a joke about a person, so everyone could laugh and pretend they are laughing at the person. Both the comedian and audience get a "High" from these types of jokes.

It is like the people who know you are a Michael fan, and the first thing they tell you about Michael is they believe he is a pedo and look at you expectantly--almost like vultures--waiting for your comment. They want you to defend him so they can go more into the story. They get a "high" from these things because they like nasty stories, but pretend they are disgusted. I met one of those months ago, and you should see how the woman moved to the end of her chair after her comment, waiting for me to say something.

My work takes me into people homes daily and I cannot tell you how many times I watch people's faces and the way they move their bodies forward on the couch, when they hear the bad/horrific/off stories that are presented on the news. I look at the way they rush to turn the news on. They say that they want to know what is happening in the world. It is not knowledge of what is going on in the world that makes them rush to the news, but the idea that something creepy/dreadful/nasty will be reported so they can get their daily does of debasement. When a nice story about someone rescuing a sick person, or the business report comes on their facial expressions lose its intensity and excitement. That is why not all people who comment about Michael I respond to. I look at them carefully to see where they are coming from, because we have to realize, that some people, no matter how much facts you tell them, they will not change their opinion. They want to keep their opinion, so they have something dirty to bring up.

Basically for comedians like Brand and the audience who loves him, dirtiness makes them more euphoric than pleasantness does. It is just like the people who tell me the comedy of Bill Cosby, e.g., does not make them laugh, but Chris Rock does. To them Rock keeps it "real." Now notice that Rock's comedy includes lots of swearing, laughing at people (like Michael), but Cosby's comedy is not like that. The more the mind focuses on one type of pleasure, then it is difficult to get the mind to accept something else, and for these people the mind thinks that cussing, making fun of others is pleasurable.
 
^ True, great post. But I enjoy both. I won't enjoy all of Bill Cosby's jokes and I won't enjoy all of Russell's. We also can't all have the same views and beliefs, but just because a comedian has a different view or belief than you, are you going to put on a frown and have it ruin your mood? I don't think things like this should ruin anyone's energy. We shouldn't feed it. If it's genuinely tasteless, rude, taboo, not funny, whatever, then don't laugh and wait for the next joke. I've seen Russell be funny about random things that aren't making fun of anyone or putting down anything. Sometimes he's just genuinely funny. Chris Rock can be, too. I'll admit, when they do things like this I lose a little bit of respect and I'm not as happy to see them the next time, but I am a very forgiving person, I guess, I don't like to hold a grudge and I'd rather be able to accept people because it has no effect on me and my beliefs that I am strongly ground in.
 
People who make "jokes" about abused children and and people who laugh at them are twisted of their minds. I know some people love to make jokes on pretty much everything but making them on such horrible crime goes beyond crossing the line. SMH :no:
That's why I really miss Dame Elizabeth, she never hesitated to stand for his friend Michael. If Stevie Wonder was there, I bet he felt as outraged and disgusted as all of us felt!
 
What I think happens is that the comedian wants to make a joke on a topic that is taboo, because they want to be nasty/debase. He cannot joke about pedophile so he veils the topic by including Michael, as though he is making a joke about Michael. What he is actually doing is making a joke about pedophile in a socially accepted way. Micheal is the convenient scapegoat here, because it is a known fact that you can say anything about Michael.

And it's the same with the media! The reason why they like to accuse Michael is because this allows them to write, I will say it, child pornographic stories in a socially accepted way. I have seen that too many times, when tabloids dwell in detailing such stories very graphically - stories about which they know full well they are lies. An example is that just a couple of days after Michael's death I saw that one of the British tabloids ran a series of articles with extracts from Victor Gutierrez's book. Gutierrez's book cannot be described as anything else than child porn (and he actually thanks NAMBLA in the foreword!). He claimed he based it on Jordan's diary, however even the Chandlers say Jordan never kept a diary. So when even the Chandlers say Gutierrez's book is not true then why do papers run a series of articles based on this book? Not even mentioning the fact that the Chandlers do not endorse the book. Why do they feel the need to print articles with the most graphic claims? Or why do they pay someone like Daniel Kapon $500,000 to detail alleged sexual acts those they know full well never happened? Why do they pay big bucks to all those people to tell graphic lies? I think it's the same as what you said about comedy. It tells more about the people who write and enjoy these stories than about Michael... Just remember the gleaming eyes of someone like Diane Dimond when she tells about such "stories".
 
Respect I agree with your post completely, because I have had too many experiences of what you wrote. It is also an abuse of the freedom of speech amendment, an abuse of power, an abuse of the Sheild act that journalists and writers like to hide behind. And we can go on and on.....
 
The tribute will be aired on 14th November, let's hope they will edit out that stupid joke.
 
^ True, great post. But I enjoy both. I won't enjoy all of Bill Cosby's jokes and I won't enjoy all of Russell's. We also can't all have the same views and beliefs, but just because a comedian has a different view or belief than you, are you going to put on a frown and have it ruin your mood? I don't think things like this should ruin anyone's energy. We shouldn't feed it. If it's genuinely tasteless, rude, taboo, not funny, whatever, then don't laugh and wait for the next joke. I've seen Russell be funny about random things that aren't making fun of anyone or putting down anything. Sometimes he's just genuinely funny. Chris Rock can be, too. I'll admit, when they do things like this I lose a little bit of respect and I'm not as happy to see them the next time, but I am a very forgiving person, I guess, I don't like to hold a grudge and I'd rather be able to accept people because it has no effect on me and my beliefs that I am strongly ground in.

So, your strongly grounded beliefs allow you to accept people who make jokes & laugh at children being raped?
 
The tribute will be aired on 14th November, let's hope they will edit out that stupid joke.

That'll be good but it'll be even better if they say that part was removed due to an unaceptable kind of joke.
 
That'll be good but it'll be even better if they say that part was removed due to an unaceptable kind of joke.

Yeah right, then that will send a message. We can only dream, or as Michael sang, "keep on dreaming."
 
^^But, that's my hope & wish. We have to hope & wish that some day when people speak about Michael, they will acknowledge the accusations were false and that Michael was a decent man & the best entertainer & humanitarian in the world.
 
So, your strongly grounded beliefs allow you to accept people who make jokes & laugh at children being raped?
Well, there are a lot of people who do this. The Sandusky mess is still widely popular discussion and joke material, which is terrible. But you can't just turn your back on people who make mistakes. That's what I said in my post, "I'm not going to turn my back on him and hate the guy just because he made a mistake. I saw him on Conan O'Brien the other night, I chuckled a few times, I forgive him and understand."

Of course, I am less likely to buy material of his now, to hold his opinion in very high regard, etc. because of this. It's very unfortunate that he had to reveal he's never educated himself with Michael Jackson. Maybe it's just me and my not wanting to hold negative energies inside towards people. Really the only people I hold those negative views towards are serial killers, child molesters, etc. but I try not to dwell on them, you know? Russell Brand has made a few big mistakes, but he genuinely seems like he wants to be a decent human being and I admire that. Sometimes people say stupid stuff. My dad has, my uncles have, mom, brother, girlfriend. I have, too. I'm sure even Michael said something at least once that he thought, "I probably shouldn't have said that..."

I agree entirely, it was a stupid joke, not funny, it was disrespectful and ignorant both because it's untrue AND he must be oblivious that MJ and Eddie worked together and were pals. But the slander campaign against Michael was a vicious and very successful one. It's not really that surprising that there are some people out there, especially comedians, who still buy that propaganda. But I think it's up to us as fans to be nice, open and welcoming to Brand into the truth and the light so that he too can be a marathon runner.

My previous post was just to say that I have discernment enough to not be effected by Brand's stupid comments and still accept his good qualities, hoping he realizes the error here. I admire peaceful people and I think those like Michael and Jesus for example wouldn't turn their back on someone for making an inappropriate joke out of complete ignorance. Maybe they would, but I don't because I wouldn't want people to do that to me.
 
^^But, that's my hope & wish. We have to hope & wish that some day when people speak about Michael, they will acknowledge the accusations were false and that Michael was a decent man & the best entertainer & humanitarian in the world.

Agree ^^. From your mouth to God's ears.
 
Well, there are a lot of people who do this. The Sandusky mess is still widely popular discussion and joke material, which is terrible. But you can't just turn your back on people who make mistakes. That's what I said in my post, "I'm not going to turn my back on him and hate the guy just because he made a mistake. I saw him on Conan O'Brien the other night, I chuckled a few times, I forgive him and understand."

Of course, I am less likely to buy material of his now, to hold his opinion in very high regard, etc. because of this. It's very unfortunate that he had to reveal he's never educated himself with Michael Jackson. Maybe it's just me and my not wanting to hold negative energies inside towards people. Really the only people I hold those negative views towards are serial killers, child molesters, etc. but I try not to dwell on them, you know? Russell Brand has made a few big mistakes, but he genuinely seems like he wants to be a decent human being and I admire that. Sometimes people say stupid stuff. My dad has, my uncles have, mom, brother, girlfriend. I have, too. I'm sure even Michael said something at least once that he thought, "I probably shouldn't have said that..."

I agree entirely, it was a stupid joke, not funny, it was disrespectful and ignorant both because it's untrue AND he must be oblivious that MJ and Eddie worked together and were pals. But the slander campaign against Michael was a vicious and very successful one. It's not really that surprising that there are some people out there, especially comedians, who still buy that propaganda. But I think it's up to us as fans to be nice, open and welcoming to Brand into the truth and the light so that he too can be a marathon runner.

My previous post was just to say that I have discernment enough to not be effected by Brand's stupid comments and still accept his good qualities, hoping he realizes the error here. I admire peaceful people and I think those like Michael and Jesus for example wouldn't turn their back on someone for making an inappropriate joke out of complete ignorance. Maybe they would, but I don't because I wouldn't want people to do that to me.

I understand your thinking but I think differently. A bad joke or a mistake sometimes is even acceptable but an indirect accusation & making fun of children's abuse is reprochable. Sometimes people lose their good qualities by making those kinds of jokes.
 
I wouldn't call What Russel said a mistake. I see right threw that B.S! He knew what he was saying and clearly wanted to say it became he obviously believes it. If not why make a joke like that in public? This event had crap to do with MJ. That means he knew Eddie was a good friend of MJs at one point and he felt like saying something about MJ because of it! So screw Russel! -_-
 
Clearly Russel Brandt have LOST it
If he thinks at a time upon MJ's death when DISSING Michael Jackson is UNCOOL
....stooping this low resorting to Michael Jackson bashing w/live audience in the

company of Eddie Murphy is going to mend his show- biz career ...... :blink::doh: he 'd better think again.
It speaks volume how much he needed to rehaibiltate his career. :doh:
His forey into Hollywood and the US market wasn't achieving the spectular results
he'd hoped for . *CoughCough "ARTHUR"* Enuff said ...SMH
 
Like I said... he dressed up as Osama Bin Laden on 9/12/2001. He's obviously never had it to lose.
 
Guys, it happened what I expected... they aired the tribute last night and the joke was edited ...I'm so glad there are still people respect Michael and his memory.
 
I hope he gets bad publicity for his patethic attempt to use Michael just for being "acid" on "his sense of humor." It was beyond making fun of Michael for a crime he never commited, that mother fucker was making fun of child rape.
 
I wonder if Eddie asked for it to be removed? I like Russell, silly comment though. I thought he had an MJ tattoo. :S
 
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