CrazyVegasMJ
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So was it the short version or the full version?
So Branca says that it actually was Michael's idea to be called KoP? What about the Elizabeth Taylor version?
So was it the short version or the full version?
REALLY??It was in a 2 hour slot with ads. How long is the long version?
I wonder if there's any way to hear a longer version of that? I would LOVE that!Anyone else BLOWN AWAY by that Man In The Mirror vocal? Just a tiny little snippet but that power! Reminded me how much I miss him.
^ I didn't watch the doc, but isn't it on the IMMORTAL CD?
Billie Jean 78;4066435 said:So Branca says that it actually was Michael's idea to be called KoP? What about the Elizabeth Taylor version?
Silverstone;4066437 said:I always believed it was MJ who thought of it,for me adding Elizabeth Taylor's name to it was just for credibility(she of course later mentioned it in a speech)....same as Diana Ross discovering J5.
However, as I had pointed out earlier, it is somewhat interesting that, while we see Michael laying down a very deliberate plan to be The King of Pop (in essence, at least) he never once uses that term. He says he will be “MJ,” but not The King of Pop. In fact, long before Elizabeth Taylor (often credited with coining the phrase) called him “The King of Pop, Rock, and Soul” at a 1989 awards show, it seemed the press had already crowned him The King of Pop-as early as 1984!
New York Post, Feb 1984
He is also referred to as “The Reigning King of Pop” in this Decemeber 7, 1984 “Chicago Sun-Times” Article:
Of course, just because Michael didn’t “self proclaim” himself The King of Pop doesn’t mean he didn’t love the title! His public embarrassment over it to the contrary, I think he loved it! You know he did.
http://www.allforloveblog.com/?p=8143
It changed a few weeks ago-there's an announcement around here. But it's now part of the MJJC Club-you're automatically in it if you're a donator member.Is anyone else not able to see the 2000 Watts forum? I had the pw and was able to see it as a forum option to click on but I can't see it anymore....?
I don't think he has any reason to lie. Maybe Michael wanted to be called King of Pop. He didn't call himself that in the public but he may have wanted to be called that.Branca is wrong and I am unsure why he would continue a damaging (read: egotistical) myth regarding Michael.
I wonder if there's any way to hear a longer version of that? I would LOVE that!
In the video John Branca said that he had conversation with Michael about it and Michael wanted to be called King of Pop.Galactus123, he is wrong. Simple as.
^ but TinnyandOdd talked about hearing MITM longer version, not watching it. Is it not the same MITM that's on the CD?
In the video John Branca said that he had conversation with Michael about it and Michael wanted to be called King of Pop.
We know, Tygger. He definitely didn't create this-again, I just wish they hadn't shortened the title-should have been the King of Pop, Rock and Soul always because that's what he became with Thriller-and continues to be to this day.Tygger;4066637 said:Barbee0715, indeed, it is how it happened. Suggesting Michael originated the name perpetuates the ridiculous myth that Michael sought to create a title that was similar to Elvis. Nothing could be farther from the truth as Michael did not chase Elvis’ fame as some believe. He exceeded Elvis in most records.
SarahJ, Michael definitely earned the title in 1984 with the success of Thriller.
delete duplicateTygger;4066637 said:Barbee0715, indeed, it is how it happened. Suggesting Michael originated the name perpetuates the ridiculous myth that Michael sought to create a title that was similar to Elvis. Nothing could be farther from the truth as Michael did not chase Elvis’ fame as some believe. He exceeded Elvis in most records.
SarahJ, Michael definitely earned the title in 1984 with the success of Thriller.
Well, as somebody who definitely is not a "rock girl" and to paraphrase somebody else: "Beat It" and "Dirty Diana" are the kind of rock songs I would buy, if I wanted to get in my car, go to the record store, and buy a rock song.I am fine with King of Pop. I personally do not see Michael as King of Rock. laughs