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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

SoS said:
LOL!!
For context: 2 1/2 years younger than mj

Many of us here are in his age category as well as youngsters of every age.
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We should make an age reveal thread so we can actually vibe with 1 another from different eras!
 
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wonderouzmj said:
I was born 1991 in dangerous era but by the time I was 5....mj was my world so I'd say ima HIStory era
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Aw! A HIStory baby! *cheek-tweek*

My fave MJ character is the BOTDF MJ so I’m there withya
 
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SoS said:
Aw! A HIStory baby! *cheek-tweek*

My fave MJ character is the BOTDF MJ so I’m there withya
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Well my favorite era is bad but the thriller/victory era has a special place in my heart
 
SoS said:
LOL!!
For context: 2 1/2 years younger than mj

Many of us here are in his age category as well as youngsters of every age.
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Oh wow, I barely know much OG fans, I'm a Thriller 25/This Is It baby (2006) and it's pretty much my favorite era too so 😛 but I'm also a sucker for OTW/Triumph/Thriller/Victory era stuff
 
SoS said:
fyi I made a slight edit to my flashback story ...it dawned on me the first "date" I ever went on was to a J5 concert ...

ok staying on topic!
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i think this is very important, because it shows how much he is almost part of every aspect of our lives. i think that is beautiful.
I walked down the aisle to One day in your life. & I am sure many have more stories like these and it shows just how much we chose to include m in some of our most personal parts of our lives.
 
SoS said:
Thanks for your generosity
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No thank you . i mean it and you are welcome 🫶
SoS said:
hmm (meaning I wish I felt smart right about now...) however... the reason I say that is, one day I was listening to 2300 Jackson Street and when it got to the one line I was like HOLD UP WAIT A MINUTE what did they mean by that? And of course had been wondering about all this death mystery the whole time so I thought, ok here I go, mind playin' trix on me again, its just all this "hoax" talk got me overthinking everything..
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i , for one absolutely appreciate an open mind and an 'overthinking' one.
SoS said:
so I ask you ........ what you think it means when they say,

"...remember we always said if we got a chance we'll plan our work and work our master plan"
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So for this @SoS i think that you are spot on. And well , m himself says when he was so very young - he doesn't sing it if he doesn't mean it -
i think it is a valid point and i can see it being part of a clause /contract - life span of character - present day to 50 .[ small print/red tape /what ifs] Sign on the dotted line. etc , etc, etc,
SoS said:

Now obviously it pertains to their massive successes

Right? Right. of course
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This makes more sense every time i think about it. Michael surely would not just ....be all, .'look at his watch, right time to kill mj ok let me do this, here i go , out the door , i'm just going to go now ' He, i would believe would've been prepping for decades not couple year /weeks /months.
m signed his name with 1998 back in 1988. Alot of prep could have been happening.
 
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wendijane said:
No thank you . i mean it and you are welcome 🫶

i , for one absolutely appreciate an open mind and an 'overthinking' one.

So for this @SoS i think that you are spot on. And well , m himself says when he was so very young - he doesn't sing it if he doesn't mean it -
i think it is a valid point and i can see it being part of a clause /contract - life span of character - present day to 50 .[ small print/red tape /what ifs] Sign on the dotted line. etc , etc, etc,

This makes more sense every time i think about it. Michael surely would not just ....be all, .'look at his watch, right time to kill mj ok let me do this, here i go , out the door , i'm just going to go now ' He, i would believe would've been prepping for decades not couple year /weeks /months.
m signed his name with 1998 back in 1988. Alot of prep could have been happening.
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This makes a lot of sense to me too.

I hadn’t thought of 1998 meaning until now! Makes all sense to me because it was a curiosity back then and it’s the era of 2300 J S, and was approaching the Vince era where some fans say he seemed to be about to launch a “disappearance” but for 911. Interesting! 🤔

Edit: Although I don’t know why fans say it or what they base it on. Not sure how strong the theory is.
 
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SoS said:
This makes a lot of sense to me too.
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But this business seem so complex hush hush so nothing , nothing ,. nothing can shock me @SoS and the world is supposedly built on untruth anyway so ...
Ice ..Remember vanilla ice? Rumour was, he was held over a bloody balcony by sug knight in order to sign a contract. That was part of the story and he comes out now and says that was not true.
Like that was thirty years ago. I wish that this part of the forum would become private.
SoS said:
I hadn’t thought of 1998 meaning until now! Makes all sense to me because it was a curiosity back then and it’s the era of 2300 J S, and was approaching the Vince era where some fans say he seemed to be about to launch a “disappearance” but for 911. Interesting! 🤔
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I was about to include that it was around that time i too, recall he was planning an 'escape' but i hd a little too much on my mind yesterday. But yes just on the precipice of the birth of the internet. Lets face it [I don't think ] MJ was built for the internet because it goes against what he or the character that he maintained. Privacy. The theme of it. So i don't know how mj would have ' fit in - adapted- to something he ...it contradicts all his words/ work to me . But Yes I remember it very well Sos . The leaks of escape were pretty prominent then.[ spelt with an e if i recall'] but back then I did not understand , that all naturally went over my head. I only got into thinking of more possible situations when Bush did not 'help' with his trail in 2003 [Yes i was hideously naive] and of course joining 'my people' in 2004/5 that is when i got to practise my thinking out of the box within a box [screen] lol. Ironically, having said all that , Michael was the only reason i 'joined' the internet.
SoS said:
Edit: Although I don’t know why fans say it or what they base it on. Not sure how strong the theory is.
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No , I too remember this. I would believe it is part of the 'puzzle' if you will. So glad you recall this too. This thread /conversation reminds me of the intense , in dept convos i would have with the super fan 14,000 on here, god, he was so dedicated to m. We got so close and i miss him so , so much. I felt he taught me so, so , so , so x 10000 much in this subject. Subjected to opinion of course.
 
I didnt know this haha a little laugh here to myself [ or eye roll] at Chingy after his second single.
it would make sense to me ...because it seemed i liked Jason's voice all along :rolleyes: no hate here and they gotta do what they got , to make that hit record & of course kerrr Ching. y.

notice how chingy can not/ does not mention the juice of that track ? It is all left ambiguous. [I get some 'what they don't know, won't hurt em' vibes. ]
Alright sorry , offtopic guys. I am sorry ! but just goes to show I don't trust the industry michael was in far as i can throw it , and hopefully m left all the madness behind.

*hope the beloved mods will make this shhhh private soon hehe *
 
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But i am on Howard's side because looks like he has been through a ton. Poor guy.
There are so many stories on you tube about this type o pain with various artists.
Twisted industry ! Hope you left michael !
shout out to Michael a few seconds in. Shout out to Howard [ hes one of us , been there, n come out the other side.Standing.]
 
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wendijane said:
i think this is very important, because it shows how much he is almost part of every aspect of our lives. i think that is beautiful.
I walked down the aisle to One day in your life. & I am sure many have more stories like these and it shows just how much we chose to include m in some of our most personal parts of our lives.
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At your wedding?
 
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The MJJ Library said:
At your wedding?
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@wendijane that is a good question

Since you and I come from the litd land of “song interpretation” I hope you understand my asking…why that particular song 🤔

it is an amazingly beautiful song, and yet a quite interesting song for a wedding. 🤔

Maybe you did the instrumental? Back then some singles (45RPM on wax) had the instrumental-only version on the B side🤔

Such a truly beautiful song!
 
SoS said:
@wendijane that is a good question

Since you and I come from the litd land of “song interpretation” I hope you understand my asking…why that particular song 🤔

it is an amazingly beautiful song, and yet a quite interesting song for a wedding. 🤔

Maybe you did the instrumental? Back then some singles (45RPM on wax) had the instrumental-only version on the B side🤔

Such a truly beautiful song!
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I mean the song is about missing someone so like, walking down the isle with those lyrics is interesting
 
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The MJJ Library said:
Well Michael didn't write any of his Motown songs so 🤷
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Not sure why who wrote it would be relevant? to why she and her bff chose the song for their wedding? I would imagine there’s a private story between the two🤷🏻‍♀️
 
SoS said:
Not sure why who wrote it would be relevant? to why she and her bff chose the song for their wedding? I would imagine there’s a private story between the two🤷🏻‍♀️
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Probably, I bring up that he didn't write it just to say Michael didn't have any personal message/story in the song
 
hi does annyone know that on channel were it is sopossed to be michael jackson dancing outside with a mask down thanks in advanced
 
So I was going through the U.S. copyright office to find registrations for unreleased songs and when I type "Michael Joseph Jackson" up, I found a registration for the original solo demo of What More Can I Give under that name, and unlike most registers with this name, this wasn't a posthumous register, this was done on February 12, 1998. Why was Michael using the wrong middle name? It's the same one on the death certificate. What do you beLIEvers think?
 
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So I was going through the U.S. copyright office to find registrations for unreleased songs and when I type "Michael Joseph Jackson" up, I found a registration for the original solo demo of What More Can I Give under that name, and unlike most registers with this name, this wasn't a posthumous register, this was done on February 12, 1998. Why was Michael using the wrong middle name? It's the same one on the death certificate. What do you beLIEvers think?
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It's very common for people to use variables of a name in legal documents. Using (dick/ricky/rick, for Richard), (Jackie for Jacqueline), and so on.
 
KOPV said:
It's very common for people to use variables of a name in legal documents. Using (dick/ricky/rick, for Richard), (Jackie for Jacqueline), and so on.
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Ah ok, ngl I never thought I'd be crossing over the death hoax and unreleased songs before lol
 
KOPV said:
It's very common for people to use variables of a name in legal documents. Using (dick/ricky/rick, for Richard), (Jackie for Jacqueline), and so on.
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Or Sigmund( Jackie), Maureen (Rebbie),Toriono (Tito), Steven Randal (Randy) /Joseph (Joe)🤭🤭
 
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