Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 55

Thread: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

   
  1. #31
    Points: 5,226, Level: 46
    Level completed: 38%, Points required for next Level: 124
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    425
    Points
    5,226
    Level
    46
    Thanks
    1,197
    Thanked 771 Times in 280 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Ok. I have no doubt that it was ´a serious mechanical failure´. Of course - very many people watched exactly that: this bridge broke down. And, ok, you read a notice about this mechanical failure in a newspaper, in some fanzines. I did not. Or maybe, I better should say?: I didn´t find any further informations about the accident - some backgrounds: how could such happen in a Michael-Jackson!-concert?, who was responsible?, were there any legal actions from MJs side? Especially because of Michaels very serious injury?
    ...Well, after loving me, she said she couldn´t love another...
    Michael Jackson, The Girl Is Mine

  2. #32
    Points: 10,366, Level: 67
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 84
    Overall activity: 12.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    mj_frenzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Greece
    Posts
    1,512
    Points
    10,366
    Level
    67
    Thanks
    35
    Thanked 775 Times in 432 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheMoon View Post
    Ok. I have no doubt that it was ´a serious mechanical failure´. Of course - very many people watched exactly that: this bridge broke down. And, ok, you read a notice about this mechanical failure in a newspaper, in some fanzines. I did not. Or maybe, I better should say?: I didn´t find any further informations about the accident - some backgrounds: how could such happen in a Michael-Jackson!-concert?, who was responsible?, were there any legal actions from MJs side? Especially because of Michaels very serious injury?
    Such accidents can happen in a show - that is why a show is always insured by insurance companies.

    Adrian Grant also brought up that technical problem (as the cause of that accident) in his ‘Michael Jackson: A Visual Documentary’ book where he chronicles important events concerning Michael Jackson’s life and career:

    June 27, 1999: Due to a technical problem part of the set, the central section of ‘The Bridge Of No Return’ collapses, leaving Michael to climb back on to the stage…” (Adrian Grant)

    Few hours after that accident, Dr. Steven Hoefflin arrived at the hotel and began to administer Propofol but also Demerol to Michael Jackson so as to ease his pains on his back.

    Debbie Rowe was also there and she witnessed the whole process in the hotel room which in no time was transformed into an emergency centre.

    The team of the concert producers (of that show) was responsible for that accident.

    Michael Jackson received payment from the insurance company that paid him the agreed amount of money (according to the insurance policy that financially covered the show’s risks in case of a serious accident).

  3. #33
    Points: 2,067, Level: 27
    Level completed: 45%, Points required for next Level: 83
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience Points
    Snek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    South Lanarkshire, Scotland
    Posts
    84
    Points
    2,067
    Level
    27
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 65 Times in 36 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    I attribute this incident, the Pepsi incident and the 2003 documentary to be the biggest factors that contributed to his untimely death.

    We know that this incident kickstarted another drug addiction/dependency that lasted until the mid 2000s (Demerol?). He said it himself in an interview in 2007. The drugs he was on changed his appearance quite a bit during this time, I believe.

  4. #34
    Points: 5,226, Level: 46
    Level completed: 38%, Points required for next Level: 124
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    425
    Points
    5,226
    Level
    46
    Thanks
    1,197
    Thanked 771 Times in 280 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    @mj_frenzy. Thanks for your research.
    ...Well, after loving me, she said she couldn´t love another...
    Michael Jackson, The Girl Is Mine

  5. #35
    Points: 17,240, Level: 83
    Level completed: 78%, Points required for next Level: 110
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    Created Blog entryTagger First ClassOverdrive10000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Awards:
    Activity Award
    NatureCriminal7896's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    5,294
    Points
    17,240
    Level
    83
    Thanks
    2,158
    Thanked 1,066 Times in 779 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dudex View Post
    when any person falling like that it causes spine compression. MJ already said before around 1996 that his back was hurting sometimes. So this event defenetly left a mark on MJ's health
    ouch.



    a female with major depression,generalized anxiety,behavioral and emotional disorder,ocd mild retardation, and learning disability. i'm not contagious but my smile is.

  6. #36
    Points: 17,240, Level: 83
    Level completed: 78%, Points required for next Level: 110
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    Created Blog entryTagger First ClassOverdrive10000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Awards:
    Activity Award
    NatureCriminal7896's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    5,294
    Points
    17,240
    Level
    83
    Thanks
    2,158
    Thanked 1,066 Times in 779 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    I don't think Michael was using Propofol during the time. he was on pain meds for his head back to what happen in 1984.



    a female with major depression,generalized anxiety,behavioral and emotional disorder,ocd mild retardation, and learning disability. i'm not contagious but my smile is.

  7. #37
    Points: 31,348, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience PointsTagger Second Class

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    3,841
    Points
    31,348
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    363
    Thanked 1,442 Times in 567 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    I was at this concert, first row, it was scary. Was anyone else here there?
    yes me. first row.

  8. #38
    Points: 31,348, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran25000 Experience PointsTagger Second Class

    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    3,841
    Points
    31,348
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    363
    Thanked 1,442 Times in 567 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl7 View Post
    What does that mean? “At least I had an unclouded experience?”

    Unclouded?

    Anyway, I am admitting that I didn’t see it, because I want to try and help clear up what happened. Then it’s better to tell the truth, right?!?!

    Even though it’s embarrassing to say, that I didn’t notice.

    It would be cooler to make up a story, right? And say, “oh yeah I knew right away, that it wasn’t part of the show” blablabla

    If I would have been at the very front, then perhaps I would have noticed. But I was not at the front. As I remember there was a bracelet system, if I remember correctly. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY!!! I only had the second best bracelet, or something. (Can anyone else remember this?) The only positive thing to say about that is, that it was one of the few concerts, where I didn’t feel like a train had hit me afterwards.

    I know there was articles written in the German newspapers about it. I wasn’t told untill the next day.
    i was front row, and it didnt realized it at that moment. i cant remember exactly. but i know that noone around me screamed or was surprised about that something was going wrong.

  9. #39
    Points: 16,031, Level: 81
    Level completed: 37%, Points required for next Level: 319
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Three FriendsVeteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    over the rainbow...
    Posts
    1,844
    Points
    16,031
    Level
    81
    Thanks
    338
    Thanked 197 Times in 102 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by mjchris View Post
    i was front row, and it didnt realized it at that moment. i cant remember exactly. but i know that noone around me screamed or was surprised about that something was going wrong.

    Good to hear, because I always felt like a fool for not seeing it! "Did you see the bridge fall down?" "Nooooo........!!!!!!"
    heal the world

  10. #40
    Points: 6,345, Level: 51
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 5
    Overall activity: 90.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registeredOverdrive5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,976
    Points
    6,345
    Level
    51
    Thanks
    1,817
    Thanked 2,268 Times in 1,169 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    I’m still amazed that this accident didn’t make bigger waves back then. Until last year, I didn’t even know this had happened. So, from what I gather so far, the question who was responsible for this was quickly resolved and the insurance covered it, and that was the end of the story. What feels odd to me is that it happened at all. And in Germany, with its strict safety regulations. And at a high-profile event like this. Wasn’t it even on live TV? Near-fatal accident involving biggest celebrity in the known universe. I thought more would have been talked and written about it, but I can’t really find any in-depth articles or anything. I mean, stage structures don’t collapse on a daily basis. That’s quite a story.
    Twitter: @ScreenOrigami
    Pokémon Go: 5702 7276 8494

  11. #41
    Points: 35,288, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    Created Blog entryThree FriendsVeteran25000 Experience Points
    PoP's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Northern Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,239
    Points
    35,288
    Level
    100
    Blog Entries
    24
    Thanks
    763
    Thanked 1,624 Times in 1,020 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    I’ve said this before and I can say it again. Glad escaped death and only get an injury, he would’ve suffered the same fate as Owen Hart died a month earlier, the media would’ve feed off stunt related deaths regarding Michael and Owen. I have a clear bet that’s why Michael didn’t want to perform much since the Munich 99’ incident due to his bad back.
    SUPPORTER/FAN of MICHAEL JACKSON & NARUHINA

  12. #42
    Points: 3,553, Level: 37
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 97
    Overall activity: 89.0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdrive

    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    850
    Points
    3,553
    Level
    37
    Thanks
    2,911
    Thanked 923 Times in 497 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    I was at this concert, first row, it was scary. Was anyone else here there?
    Me , first raw too. And yep, it was very scary. We calmed down a bit when he continued with the show, but it was more like wishful thinking to believe it wasn't that serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    but i knew that something was wrong because of the overdriven "boom" sound.
    Yep. And it fell way too fast. For one quick silly second it crossed my mind that MJ went crazy and pulled a Jackie Chan, but it was a more plausible explanation that something went wrong. :/ Plus one friend who attended the Korean concert too confirmed it wasn't part of the show.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyMeToTheMoon View Post
    I always wondered that nothing was written afterwards about maybe a false construction, any technical problems, accident or not or what...
    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    I’m still amazed that this accident didn’t make bigger waves back then. Until last year, I didn’t even know this had happened.
    Now that you say this it's quite strange indeed... TBH I feel that the Pepsi incident was downplayed as well to some extent, it was news and a known fact, but it was made to look like it was less devastating (in MJ's own words too, may I add).

    The Munich accident added to his back pain/problems AFAIK, which never left anymore and continued to cause him suffering, including during the trial period. I can't remember exactly whether it was the cause when he had to go to the doctor and then rush back to court and the whole world mocked him because of his PJ's (that was another so unfair story and only those who closely followed the case know the background, the rest of the world thinks of it as another proof for MJ's weirdness. You can feel T-Mez is still hurt about it too when he speaks about that).

    You know, MJ was often criticized for "playing the victim" but I actually see the opposite. Perhaps what people are confusing is that you can see him hurt. But rarely complaining.
    I look to greet the stars
    But there's no stars to see

  13. #43
    Points: 6,345, Level: 51
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 5
    Overall activity: 90.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registeredOverdrive5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,976
    Points
    6,345
    Level
    51
    Thanks
    1,817
    Thanked 2,268 Times in 1,169 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by PoP View Post
    I have a clear bet that’s why Michael didn’t want to perform much since the Munich 99’ incident due to his bad back.
    He was probably worried about his children, too. This could have gone terribly wrong, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    Now that you say this it's quite strange indeed... TBH I feel that the Pepsi incident was downplayed as well to some extent, it was news and a known fact, but it was made to look like it was less devastating (in MJ's own words too, may I add).
    I can’t find it right now, but there’s a German news clip where they act as if he was making the burn accident up, because they don’t see how an accident like that could possibly have happened on this set. And then go on to show the street version commercial.

    I kid you not, that clip is out there. When I find it, I’ll update this post.

    EDIT: Found it: https://mega.nz/file/Z84V1QZa#H0hhvc...17vJMV7_N6iNSA

    It’s a clip from Swiss TV in 1993. Beginning at minute 2, they mention that MJ’s drug addiction supposedly began after an accident on the Pepsi set, although it’s not quite clear how an accident could have happened during this harmless scene – then proceed to show the wrong commercial.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    The Munich accident added to his back pain/problems AFAIK, which never left anymore and continued to cause him suffering, including during the trial period. I can't remember exactly whether it was the cause when he had to go to the doctor and then rush back to court and the whole world mocked him because of his PJ's (that was another so unfair story and only those who closely followed the case know the background, the rest of the world thinks of it as another proof for MJ's weirdness. You can feel T-Mez is still hurt about it too when he speaks about that).

    You know, MJ was often criticized for "playing the victim" but I actually see the opposite. Perhaps what people are confusing is that you can see him hurt. But rarely complaining.
    I think he said he fell in the bathroom. But of course that does a number on your back, too, if its already injured. The way “pajama day” is handled to this day is infuriating. Whenever someone writes about the trial, they pull up the same pajama photo. It’s not like there aren’t literally hundreds of photos on Getty Images from all the other trial days where MJ looked absolutely pristine in his tailor-made suits. No, of course they prefer to make him look like he had no respect for the court and put up an act. If the media had had its way, they’d have MJ pulled into court by a ring through his nose. It’s infuriating.
    Last edited by ScreenOrigami; 20-05-2020 at 04:53 PM.
    Twitter: @ScreenOrigami
    Pokémon Go: 5702 7276 8494

  14. #44
    Points: 3,553, Level: 37
    Level completed: 36%, Points required for next Level: 97
    Overall activity: 89.0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience Points1 year registeredOverdrive

    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    850
    Points
    3,553
    Level
    37
    Thanks
    2,911
    Thanked 923 Times in 497 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    there’s a German news clip where they act as if he was making the burn accident up, because they don’t see how an accident like that could possibly have happened on this set. And then go on to show the street version commercial.
    Errhmmm ... okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScreenOrigami View Post
    I think he said he fell in the bathroom. But of course that does a number on your back, too, if its already injured. The way “pajama day” is handled to this day is infuriating.
    Thanks for the clarification! I should have checked the details myself, but I try to avoid reliving that period if possible :/, as long as I remember the main points at least.

    This PJ thing... although an unimportant event itself, it's perhaps the most infuriating and hurtful memory for me, I guess for symbolic reasons. It shows perfectly how you can manipulate an innocent/unfortunate event into something sinister/weird, mock someone who should deserve some empathy instead, and basically establish your presentation as truth while misleading the public in every possible regard.
    I look to greet the stars
    But there's no stars to see

  15. #45
    Points: 6,345, Level: 51
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 5
    Overall activity: 90.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registeredOverdrive5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,976
    Points
    6,345
    Level
    51
    Thanks
    1,817
    Thanked 2,268 Times in 1,169 Posts

    Default Re: The "Munich 1999" Accident!

    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    Errhmmm ... okay.
    Found the clip and updated my post. It’s in German, but even if you don’t understand the words it’s obvious that they’re getting it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozemouze View Post
    Thanks for the clarification! I should have checked the details myself, but I try to avoid reliving that period if possible :/, as long as I remember the main points at least.

    This PJ thing... although an unimportant event itself, it's perhaps the most infuriating and hurtful memory for me, I guess for symbolic reasons. It shows perfectly how you can manipulate an innocent/unfortunate event into something sinister/weird, mock someone who should deserve some empathy instead, and basically establish your presentation as truth while misleading the public in every possible regard.
    We should crowdfund to buy this photo and send it to all media outlets to use instead of the pajama photo.



    Ooops. I’m offtopic again. Sorry.

    Twitter: @ScreenOrigami
    Pokémon Go: 5702 7276 8494

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to ScreenOrigami For This Useful Post:


Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •