The Woody Allen Allegations

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As the topic has been brought up in another thread, I decided to post the following article here. It’s not meant to be proof of anything, it’s merely a starting point for your own investigations, should you feel the need to know more about the Woody Allen allegations.

Personally, I have looked into this case a while ago, but I haven’t saved any documents, as I had come to a conclusion and hadn’t planned on returning to the topic. But I did bookmark this article, because it sums up a lot of my own findings. I’m also unlikely to engage with this thread after this first post. I’m a firm supporter of the presumption of innocence, and as you will find out, Woody was never even charged with a crime.

If we demand justice for MJ, we should follow the same ethical standards when we talk about other people.

Woody Allen is alive and can speak for himself, he has money and lawyers, but he decided to largely ignore the allegations as best as he can and move on with his life. Personally, I’ll continue to enjoy Mr. Allen’s work, as I can see no reason why I shouldn’t. :)

I’m highlighting a few parts that particularly stood out to me. You’ll find that some of these sound oddly familiar.


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The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

Twenty-one years after the first allegations that Woody Allen abused his adopted daughter, that incident is back in the news.
Robert B. Weide
Updated Jul. 12, 2017 12:23PM ET / Published Jan. 27, 2014 5:45AM ET

As anyone with access to a computer knows, Woody Allen has been pilloried of late across the internet, over allegations that 21 years ago, he molested the daughter he and Mia Farrow adopted in 1985. Countless people have weighed in on this, many of them without the slightest idea of what the facts are in this matter. I consider myself allergic to gossip and tabloids, and go out of my way to avoid them. So when a celebrity is being devoured by the two-headed piranha of gossip and innuendo, I usually have minimal understanding of what they did, or were alleged to have done. Woody Allen is an exception.

I produced and directed the two-part PBS special, Woody Allen: A Documentary, that premiered in the U.S. on the “American Masters” series. I also supervised and consulted on the brief clip montage that aired as part of the recent Golden Globes telecast, when Allen received the Cecil B. DeMille Award for Lifetime Achievement.

When I went online the morning after the Globes broadcast, I found more than one email asking if I had seen the previous night’s tweets from Mia Farrow and her son, Ronan. A quick search led me not only to the accusatory tweets, but to the explosion of internet chatter that followed in their wake. The more benevolent comments suggested Woody should rot in jail. Others were demanding his head on a pike.

Last fall, Vanity Fair magazine ran an article about Mia and her family, which included an interview with the 28-year-old Malone (née Dylan), who, at the age of seven, was at the center of Mia’s allegations that made headlines during the brutal custody battle between her and Woody. In the recent interview, Malone stands behind her mother’s accusation. It was the one-two punch of the Vanity Fair piece and the Farrow tweets that stirred up the hornet’s nest that had remained somewhat dormant over the past 20 years.

My documentary covered Allen’s relationship with Soon-Yi Previn (Mia’s adopted daughter and Woody’s wife of 16 years) and the ensuing fall-out, but I chose not to go down the rabbit hole detailing the custody case, as my film was primarily about his work, and I had no interest in allowing it to turn into a courtroom drama. I did, however, thoroughly research the entire episode in order to reach my own conclusions about what did or didn’t take place.

My association with Woody is primarily a professional one, though we’ve remained friendly since the documentary and still occasionally correspond by email via his assistant (since Woody still types on a 60-year old manual typewriter). When I wrote him the day after the ceremony, he was vaguely aware that Mia and Ronan had badmouthed him (again), but he wasn’t certain what Twitter was. (He’s heard of blogging and always confuses the two.) Because he doesn’t go online, he was blissfully unaware of how much ink (sorry, bandwidth) the story was getting. If he had known, he still wouldn’t have cared. Mia’s accusations were old business, and the fact that Ronan was publicly chiming in meant nothing to Woody, who hadn’t even seen his (alleged) son for 20 years. I also knew Woody would never publicly respond to any of this. His indifference to the gossip has always struck me not as a decision so much as an involuntary and organic reaction. In fact, during a written exchange that day in which I mentioned the tweet attack, he was more focused on giving me advice about a stye I had on my eyelid that I joked was probably a brain tumor: “I agree, you probably do have a brain tumor. You should get your affairs in order quickly as those things can move rather rapidly. You’ll probably start to have some problems with your balance—don’t panic—it’s quite natural for a brain tumor.” He then counseled me not to use up my “remaining days” fretting over Mia.

As the day progressed, it seemed the misinformation on the internet was growing exponentially spurious by the minute. The more even-keeled bloggers and pundits were asking, “Is it possible to separate the art from the artist?” or “Is America ready to forgive Woody Allen?” The very phrasing of these questions presumed that Woody had done something terrible, and we had to decide how much we would let it bother us. My wife suggested that in absence of a response by Woody, he was being swiftboated. His silence created a vacuum that everybody with a keyboard was going to fill with whatever they believed or thought they believed or heard from someone else who heard from someone who linked to the Vanity Fair article.

I considered whether to enter the fray, since my credentials were in order, so to speak. I had researched these events, I knew Woody—was friendly with him, but we weren’t so close that anyone could rightfully accuse me of being in his pocket. Quite the opposite in fact, as Woody had already advised me not to get involved. But as I came across more and more articles and blogs filled with misinformation, my wife said something to me that struck a chord: “You have just as much right to weigh in on this as anyone else, regardless of what Woody thinks.”

So here I go—contributing to the very noise I’ve been complaining about.

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There are basically two issues at play here. One is Woody’s starting a romantic/sexual relationship with Mia’s adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn, in 1991. The other is Mia’s accusation—used during their custody battle for their three shared children—that Woody molested their 7-year-old adopted daughter Dylan. People tend to confuse these two issues, so let’s examine them separately.

First, the Soon-Yi situation:

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.


Let me add this: If anyone is creeped out by the notion of a 55-year old man becoming involved with his girlfriend’s 19-year old adopted daughter, I understand. That makes perfect sense. But why not get the facts straight? If the actual facts are so repugnant to you, then why embellish them?

It’s understandable that Mia would remain furious with Woody for the rest of her life. If I were in Mia’s position, I’m sure I’d feel the same way. (Though I’d likely handle it as a private matter and not be tweeting about him being a pedophile, just before tweeting, “omfg look at this baby panda.”) I also understand the simmering anger of Ronan Farrow (née Satchel), who has famously said of Allen, “He’s my father married to my sister. That makes me his son and his brother-in-law. That is such a moral transgression.” However, this particular dilemma might be resolved by Mia’s recent revelations that Ronan’s biological father may “possibly” be Frank Sinatra, whom Farrow married in 1966, when she was 21 and the crooner was 50.

While we’re on the subject, a word about this Sinatra business: To even say that Ronan is “possibly” Sinatra’s son implies that Mia was fooling around with her ex-husband decades after their divorce. Backdating from Ronan’s birthdate, it means that Farrow and Sinatra “hooked up” in March of 1987 when Mia was 42 and Old Blue Eyes was 71. This sort of dispels the myth that Woody and Mia had this idyllic, loving, monogamous relationship until Woody threw it all away in 1992, since Mia was apparently diddling her ex, five years earlier. If Mia was “just kidding” about the Sinatra scenario, it was an awfully insensitive thing to say, considering the fact that Sinatra’s wife, Barbara, is still very much alive. Did Mia stop to think how her coy tease might be perceived by the widow Sinatra? One can only wonder if this also fits Ronan’s definition of a “moral transgression.” (One may also wonder whether Woody is owed a fortune in reimbursement for child support.)

I am not here to slam Mia. I think she’s an exceptional actress and I seriously admire her political activism. (I even follow her on Twitter.) But those who hate Woody “for what he did to Mia,” should be reminded that if Sinatra was indeed Ronan’s biological father, it’s not the first time Mia had a child by a married man. In 1969, at the age of 24, she became pregnant by musician/composer André Previn, 40, who was still married to singer/songwriter Dory Previn. The betrayal is said to have led to Dory Previn’s mental breakdown and institutionalization, during which she received electroconvulsive therapy. She would later write a song called, “Beware of Young Girls” about Mia. Maybe sleeping with your friend’s husband doesn’t earn as many demerits as sleeping with your girlfriend’s adopted daughter, but if you’re waving the “Never Forget” banner in Mia’s honor, let’s be consistent and take a moment to also remember the late Dory Previn. (Or better yet, let’s forget the whole damn thing, considering it’s none of our business.)

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Now, on to the more delicate issue of Mia’s accusations during the custody case that Woody sexually abused Dylan/Malone.

A brief but chilling synopsis of the accusation is as follows: On August 4, 1992, almost four months after the revelation about Woody and Soon-Yi’s relationship understandably ignited a firestorm within the Farrow household, Woody was visiting Frog Hollow, the Farrow country home in Bridgewater, Connecticut, where Mia and several of her kids were staying. During an unsupervised moment, Woody allegedly took Dylan into the attic and, shall we say, “touched her inappropriately.” Later in the day, it was alleged that the child was wearing her sundress, but that her underpants were missing. The following day, Mia’s daughter allegedly told her mother what had happened, and Mia put the child’s recounting of the story on videotape as evidence.


Did this event actually occur? If we’re inclined to give it a second thought, we can each believe what we want, but none of us know. Why does the adult Malone say it happened? Because she obviously believes it did, so good for her for speaking out about it in Vanity Fair. Her brother Ronan believes it happened, so good for him for sticking up for his sister in 140 characters or less. They’ve both grown up in a household where this scenario has been accepted as indisputable fact, so why shouldn’t they believe it?

I know I’m treading a delicate path here, and opening myself up to accusations of “blaming the victim.” However, I’m merely floating scenarios to consider, and you can think what you will. But if Mia’s account is true, it means that in the middle of custody and support negotiations, during which Woody needed to be on his best behavior, in a house belonging to his furious ex-girlfriend, and filled with people seething mad at him, Woody, who is a well-known claustrophobic, decided this would be the ideal time and place to take his daughter into an attic and molest her, quickly, before a house full of children and nannies noticed they were both missing.

Even people who give Woody the benefit of the doubt and defend him on the internet are often confused on a few points. Some mistakenly say that the court found him “not guilty” of the molestation charges. The fact is there was never such a ruling because he was never charged with a crime, since investigative authorities never found credible evidence to support Mia’s (and Dylan’s) claim.

Let’s back up a bit: Mia’s allegations of molestation automatically triggered a criminal investigation by the Connecticut State Police, who brought in an investigative team from the Yale-New Haven Hospital, whose six-month long inquiry (which included medical examinations) concluded that Dylan had not been molested. I’ve since read a recurring canard that Woody “chose” the investigative team. Yet nobody has suggested how or why Mia’s team would ever outsource the investigation to a team “chosen” by Woody. Others have said that the investigators talked to psychiatrists “on Allen’s payroll” before letting him off the hook. The only way I can explain this is that the investigators, naturally, would have spoken with Woody’s shrinks before giving him a clean bill of health. So technically, yeah, Woody’s shrinks would have been paid a lot of money by Woody over the years. (Let’s even call it an annuity.) The same would be true of his dentist, his eye doctor, and his internist.

As for the evidentiary videotape of young Dylan’s claims, it’s been noted that there were several starts and stops in the recording, essentially creating in-camera “edits” to the young girl’s commentary. This raises questions as to what was happening when the tape wasn’t running. Was Mia “coaching” her daughter off-camera, as suggested by the investigators? Mia says no—she merely turned the camera on whenever Dylan starting talking about what Daddy did. Maybe we should take Mia at her word on this. Since I wasn’t there, I think it’s good policy not to presume what took place.

The videotape and the medical exams weren’t the only problems Mia faced in bringing abuse charges against her former lover. There were problems with inconsistencies in her daughter’s off-camera narrative as well. A New York Times article dated March 26, 1993, quotes from Mia’s own testimony, during which she recalled taking the child to a doctor on the same day as the alleged incident. Farrow recalled, “I think (Dylan) said (Allen) touched her, but when asked where, she just looked around and went like this,” at which point Mia patted her shoulders. Farrow recalls she took Dylan to another doctor, four days later. On the stand, Allen’s attorney asked Mia about the second doctor’s findings: “There was no evidence of injury to the anal or vaginal area, is that correct?” Farrow answered, “Yes.”

In the midst of the proceedings, on February 2, 1993, a revealing article appeared in the Los Angeles Times, headlined: “Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges,” in which former nanny Monica Thompson (whose salary was paid by Allen, since three of the brood were also his) swore in a deposition to Allen’s attorneys that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position. Thompson had this to say about the videotape: ““I know that the tape was made over the course of at least two and perhaps three days. I recall Ms. Farrow saying to Dylan at that time, ‘Dylan, what did daddy do… and what did he do next?’ Dylan appeared not to be interested, and Ms. Farrow would stop taping for a while and then continue.”

Thompson further revealed a conversation she had with Kristie Groteke, another nanny. “She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear.”

On April 20, 1993, a sworn statement was entered into evidence by Dr. John M. Leventhal, who headed the Yale-New Haven Hospital investigative team looking into the abuse charges. An article from the New York Times dated May 4, 1993, includes some interesting excerpts of their findings. As to why the team felt the charges didn’t hold water, Leventhal states: “We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination.”

Leventhal further swears Dylan’s statements at the hospital contradicted each other as well as the story she told on the videotape. “Those were not minor inconsistencies. She told us initially that she hadn’t been touched in the vaginal area, and she then told us that she had, then she told us that she hadn’t.” He also said the child’s accounts had “a rehearsed quality.” At one point, she told him, “I like to cheat on my stories.” The sworn statement further concludes: “Even before the claim of abuse was made last August, the view of Mr. Allen as an evil and awful and terrible man permeated the household. The view that he had molested Soon-Yi and was a potential molester of Dylan permeated the household… It’s quite possible —as a matter of fact, we think it’s medically probable—that (Dylan) stuck to that story over time because of the intense relationship she had with her mother.” Leventhal further notes it was “very striking” that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with “one, her father’s relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother,” who had lost a career in Mr. Allen’s films.

Much is made by Mia’s supporters over the fact that the investigative team destroyed their collective notes prior to their submission of the report. Also, the three doctors who made up the team did not testify in court, other than through the sworn deposition of team leader Leventhal. I have no idea if this is common practice or highly unusual. I won’t wager a guess as to what was behind the destruction of the notes any more than I’ll claim to know why Mia stopped and started her video camera while filming her daughter’s recollections over a few days, or who was alleged to have leaked the tape of Dylan to others, or why Mia wouldn't take a lie detector test. (Woody took one and passed.) In any event, destruction of the notes may have been part of the reason that, despite the very conclusive position taken by the investigators that Dylan was not abused, presiding Judge Elliot Wilk found their report “inconclusive.”

Judge Wilk would ultimately grant Mia custody of Satchel and Dylan. 15-year-old Moses chose not to see Woody, which was his right. It was a hard-won victory for Mia who returned home with eight of her nine children intact. She would go on to adopt six more, including Thaddeus Wilk Farrow, named in honor of the Honorable Judge Wilk.

Woody was granted supervised visitation of Satchel, but his request for immediate visitation with Dylan was denied until the young girl underwent a period of therapy, after which a further review of visitation would be considered. As a legal matter, the investigation of possible criminal abuse would continue.

Almost four months after Wilk’s decision, the Connecticut authorities abandoned the criminal investigation, resulting in an unusual statement from Litchfield, Connecticut County Prosecutor Frank Maco, who dismissed the abuse charges against Woody, but still maintained that he had “probable cause” to believe Dylan. In the minds of many, the decision would leave Woody in a kind of moral limbo. Legally, he was cleared of everything—except a dark cloud of suspicion. Woody was furious, and called a press conference in which he referred to the state’s attorney office as “cowardly, dishonest and irresponsible. Even today, as they squirm, lie, sweat, and tap-dance, pathetically trying to save face and justify their moral squalor… there was no evidence against me. There is none now. I promise you, smear as they may, they will always claim to have evidence; but notice that somehow they will manage to find reasons why they can’t quite show it to you.”

Woody’s ad-hoc press conference made for good television and was widely covered in the press. Less widely disseminated was a news item that appeared in the New York Times five months later (Feb. 24, 1994), which reported that a disciplinary panel found the actions of County Prosecutor Frank Maco (the “probable cause” guy) were cause for “grave concern” and may have prejudiced the case. It winds up that Maco sent his “probable cause” statement to the Surrogate’s Court judge in Manhattan who was still deciding on Allen’s adoption status of Dylan and Moses, which Mia was trying to annul. The panel wrote, “In most circumstances, [Maco’s comments] would have violated the prosecutor’s obligation to the accused. [His actions were] inappropriate, unsolicited, and potentially prejudicial.” The article states that the agency could have voted sanctions against Maco ranging from censure to disbarment. Though the decision was quite damning, Maco got what amounted to a slap on the wrist. Two years later, the reprimand was overturned, but Mia was unsuccessful in her bid to annul the adoptions. Legally, Woody remains the adoptive father of Dylan and Moses.

Moses Farrow, now 36, and an accomplished photographer, has been estranged from Mia for several years. During a recent conversation, he spoke of “finally seeing the reality” of Frog Hollow and used the term “brainwashing” without hesitation. He recently reestablished contact with Allen and is currently enjoying a renewed relationship with him and Soon-Yi.

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Life would go on for both Woody and Mia, respectively. Aside from tending to her growing family, Farrow would come to be recognized as a leading human rights advocate, with special concern for the plight of children in conflict-torn regions. She has worked diligently to bring attention to the Sudanese genocide in Darfur, and has made many trips to the region, receiving several awards for her humanitarian efforts in the process. Woody Allen would continue his ritual of writing and producing a film per-year—an unprecedented pace he’s maintained since 1969. The accolades and awards continue to pour in, and no one is less impressed than Allen, who has traditionally stayed away from all awards shows.

In 1997, Woody and Soon-Yi would marry in Venice, Italy, and over the next few years adopt two daughters. Anyone who has adopted is familiar with the vetting process conducted by social workers and licensed government agencies charged with looking out for the child’s welfare. Suffice it to say, the case of Woody and Soon-Yi was no exception, especially considering the highly-publicized events of 1992-93. Both adoptions, in two different states, were thoroughly reviewed by state court judges who found no reason why Woody and his wife shouldn’t be allowed to adopt. The girls, now aged 15 and 13, are named Bechet (after jazz saxophonist/clarinetist Sidney Bechet) and Manzie (after jazz drummer Manzie Johnson).

It took me little more than two years to complete my film, Woody Allen: A Documentary. I conducted hours of filmed interviews with Woody, who put forward no ground rules about questions I could ask, or topics to avoid. Although I shot some film on location with Woody in London and Cannes, most of our filming took place in New York City. On more than one occasion, when I was planning to interview Woody, I found I had to schedule around mornings when he’d walk his kids to school, or attend parent-teacher conferences. The normalcy of his domestic life was somehow surprising to me. I’ve not spent a lot of time with his kids, but I’ve met them on a few occasions where I’ve received the cursory “hello,” as they went about their business doing girl stuff with their friends. The only parent-child tensions I’ve been privy to are that his girls think their father’s mean for not letting them have a dog, and that he’s an idiot for not knowing how to work a computer. Lest anyone accuse me of being in Woody’s pocket, I’ll confess that I side with his kids on both counts.

My more recent professional association with Woody took place last month, when I was asked to work on the Allen clip montage for the Golden Globes. The montage editor, Nicholas Goodman, and I wanted to include a brief moment from The Purple Rose of Cairo, in which Mia appeared. The producers were concerned about whether she would sign a release for the clip. (The Screen Actors Guild maintains very strict rules about obtaining authorization from any actor who appears in a clip excised for compilations.) I thought it unlikely that Mia would object, as I had obtained a signed release for my documentary, in which she granted permission for her appearance in many lengthy clips from several Allen films. At the time, I was extremely grateful for her cooperation, for without it, I would have had a 12-year gap in my film, and Mia would have been extremely conspicuous by her absence. I even took it as a possible sign that 20 years after the fact, perhaps the healing process had begun to take hold. As a further sign of good will, Mia agreed to the use of her “Purple Rose” clip in the Golden Globe montage. The producers of the show were grateful. Everyone agreed it would have been a shame not to acknowledge Mia’s contribution to so many of Allen’s best films.

At the ceremony in Beverly Hills, actress Emma Stone, having just worked with Woody on his latest film Magic in the Moonlight, introduced the montage, followed by Diane Keaton’s surrogate acceptance speech, which was typically sentimental, loopy, and very Keatonesque. Woody, who would have never stopped throwing up had he been there, was instead in New York at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre for the opening of Beautiful: The Carole King Musical, whose book was written by Woody’s friend Doug McGrath. Woody had already told me that if the show let out early enough, he was hoping to get home in time to catch the last quarter of the football playoffs.

Apparently, Mia and Ronan assigned more significance to the festivities than did Woody, seeing the televised occasion as a perfect opportunity to bring him down a few pegs. The first of Mia’s tweets, issued as the Woody segment commenced, was restrained and kind of cute: “Time to grab some icecream & switch over to #GIRLS.” I smiled when I read it, and thought, “Why not? You already saw the montage when you approved the use of your clip.” Her second tweet, referencing the recent Vanity Fair article, was nastier: “A woman has publicly detailed Woody Allen’s molestation of her at age 7. GoldenGlobe tribute showed contempt for her & all abuse survivors.”

This one puzzled me. I thought it was odd to say the Globe tribute showed contempt for abuse survivors when Mia willfully participated in the festivities by expressly agreeing to the use of her clip, when she had every opportunity to decline. She certainly wasn’t pressured, and we had an alternative version of the montage (sans Mia) all ready to go in case she passed. It seemed Mia either wanted it both ways, or simply assumed no one would ever learn that she was complicit in the tribute. By the time I saw her third tweet, asking, “Is he a pedophile?” and linking to the Vanity Fair article, my most charitable thought was that this woman needs to get over herself. A more mischievous part of me wanted to repost her tweet, but swap out her link for one leading to an article about the recent 10-year jail sentence received by her brother, John Charles Villiers-Farrow, for multiple counts of child molestation—a topic she’s been unusually quiet about, considering her penchant for calling out alleged (let alone, convicted) molesters to whom she’s exposed her children.

I was actually somewhat impressed with Ronan Farrow’s now-famous tweet from the summer of 2012: “Happy father’s day—or as they call it in my family, happy brother-in-law’s day.” The target was fair game, and I remember thinking Ronan had inherited his father’s wit—before his actual paternity came into question. (A good sense of humor and the ability to think on his feet will serve him well on his own show on MSNBC.) But his tweet the night of the Globes was a bit more vicious: “Missed the Woody Allen tribute—did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?” Brevity may be the soul of wit, if not nuanced accuracy. Had he stated that a woman publicly “alleged” molestation, it probably wouldn’t have triggered quite the reaction Ronan was looking for, just weeks before his show debuts. To remind readers that the woman is recalling memories from the age of seven, when a six-month investigation characterized her as being “emotionally disturbed,” and making statements that were likely “coached or influenced by her mother,” takes a little more than 140 characters.

I’ve already said this, but it bears repeating: I know Dylan/Malone believes these events took place, and I know Ronan believes so too. I am not in a position to say they didn’t, any more than all the people on the internet calling for Woody’s head can say they did. The point is that accusations make headlines; retractions are buried on page twelve, and coerced accusations are as much a reality as coerced confessions. Since Woody literally pays no mind to this stuff, and he continues to work and have a happy home life, I would never suggest he’s a victim in this case. The real victim has always been Malone. For me, however, the real questions are: who’s doing the victimizing, and does pain really heal better in the public spotlight? I don’t pretend to have answers for either question.

Malone, who is now a writer and artist, and happily married to an information-technology specialist, had been living a seemingly quiet life out of the spotlight. Obviously, if she feels that an interview with Vanity Fair is a necessary part of her healing process, that’s her right. I can only hope it brought her some closure, and I sincerely wish her all the happiness and peace she’s been looking for. I can even clear up one tiny mystery for her, of which I have personal knowledge. In the Vanity Fair article, Malone says that while a senior in college, she received in the mail a stuffed, manila envelope from Woody, filled with old photos of the two of them. She didn’t recognize the handwriting, but “(the envelope) had a fake return name: Lehman.” When I was working on my documentary, I’d occasionally request material from Woody’s office, which would be mailed to me by his assistant whose name would appear on the return address. During Malone’s senior year in college, Woody had an assistant whose surname was Lehman. So there’s one mystery solved. If only all the others were so easy.

As to the overall reliability or objectivity of Vanity Fair, I can’t really take a position. I do know that the publication was sued for libel in 2005 by director Roman Polanski who, in 1977, pled guilty to unlawful intercourse with a thirteen-year-old girl in Los Angeles that year. The magazine published an article stating that in 1969, Polanski was seen fondling and hitting on a young model at Elaine’s restaurant in New York City on his way to the funeral of his late wife Sharon Tate, who had been brutally slain by the Manson family. One of the witnesses who testified on Polanski’s behalf was Mia Farrow, who, I’m told, remains friendly with the director to this day. I commend her for standing by her friend and going on record as a character witness. That’s what friends do. In fact, her support of Polanski is so steadfast that when he won the Oscar for best director for his 2002 masterpiece, The Pianist, Mia never even suggested that the Motion Picture Academy showed contempt for all abuse survivors in so honoring him. But then again, those were the days before Twitter.

Polanski won his libel suit against Vanity Fair. It was proven that the director wasn’t even in New York on his way to his wife’s funeral, which took place in Los Angeles.

* * * * Editor's note: Subsequent to publishing the above piece, an open letter from Dylan Farrow appeared in Nicholas Kristof’s column in the New York Times. When asked for comment, Weide sent this reply: “This continues to be a very sad story from every angle. I can only say I found nothing in Dylan’s letter that hasn’t previously been alleged in the two previous Vanity Fair articles, which I’ve already addressed. I also see nothing that contradicts what I wrote for The Daily Beast. If I wrote it today, it would be exactly the same piece. As I’ve already stated in my article, I hope she finds closure, and I sincerely wish her all the happiness and peace she’s been looking for."

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast
 
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ScreenOrigami;4282160 said:
Personally, I have looked into this case a while ago, but I haven’t saved any documents, as I had come to a conclusion and hadn’t planned on returning to the topic. But I did bookmark this article, because it sums up a lot of my own findings. I’m also unlikely to engage with this thread after this first post. I’m a firm supporter of the presumption of innocence, and as you will find out, Woody was never even charged with a crime.

If we demand justice for MJ, we should follow the same ethical standards when we talk about other people.

Thanks for the article and this reminder as well, it's important to apply our principles to everyone.

I did some reading on the topic too but didn't really intend to go deeper, so I accept the fact that Allen is innocent in the court of law. Plus I think his case is also a typical mixture of perceptions, rumors and misunderstanding of the actual situations (e.g. I have the impression that many people mix his relationship with Soon-Yi with the allegations against him by Dylan).

PS: I since finished reading the article and the writer (who obviously has a deeper understanding of the whole case and its surroundings) experienced the same about the public mixing the cases/facts entirelly.

ScreenOrigami;4282160 said:
I’m highlighting a few parts that particularly stood out to me. You’ll find that some of these sound oddly familiar.

The recollection of the events by Farrow's adopted son is interesting as well: https://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html

It's important to note that we can't know whose account is the closest to the truth, or who are influenced by whom, but these are very different perspectives. What seems clear is there were many hurt feelings, traumas in this family, and many parties are to blame to some extent. As for the allegations there's no good outcome in this: either Allen did something awful, or Farrow coached her adopted daughter to lie (and eventually believe in them, probably). :/
 
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On a different note, Allen's case is also a good example of the double standards of the media though: until the me-too era (and the Farrows' role in it) the press ignored the allegations against him whenever they could, so it didn't overshadow his work (as noted in the article it "remained somewhat dormant"), and even when it was inevitable to mention the case it was presented in a fair, factual manner (which is the way it should be done, of course).

An example from the article (the writer also did a documentary on Allen's work):

My documentary covered Allen’s relationship with Soon-Yi Previn (Mia’s adopted daughter and Woody’s wife of 16 years) and the ensuing fall-out, but I chose not to go down the rabbit hole detailing the custody case, as my film was primarily about his work, and I had no interest in allowing it to turn into a courtroom drama.

It's a legitimate and reasonable standpoint for sure, but compare this to MJ's treatment: it's obligatory to mention the allegations in every article about him, in order to always remind (and influence) the public. For him it's almost never allowed to be "just about his work". Some would say that's inevitable, but that's not the case: it's completely up to the MSM what to emphasize, what to publish and what to ignore.
 
ozemouze;4282255 said:
It's important to note that we can't know whose account is the closest to the truth, or who are influenced by whom, but these are very different perspectives. What seems clear is there were many hurt feelings, traumas in this family, and many parties are to blame to some extent. As for the allegations there's no good outcome in this: either Allen did something awful, or Farrow coached her adopted daughter to lie (and eventually believe in them, probably). :/

You’re right. Of course we can’t know for sure what’s the truth, looking at the case from the outside. However, there are a couple of red flags:

  • a custody battle (massive red flag!)
  • a very complex case of jealousy over Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi
  • fame & money (no more Woody Allen film roles for Mia)
  • highly unlikely circumstances for the alleged abuse to happen
  • lack of credible evidence
  • Vanity Fair article by none other than Maureen Orth (*)
* Yes, the Maureen Orth who claimed MJ had 42 cows sacrificed for a voodoo curse on Steven Spielberg. :lmao:

All of this coupled with the fact that Woody was never charged with any crime, I’m definitely Team Woody on this one, although I agree with the author that it’s possible the children truly believe it happened. I don’t want to go into the details here, but if you research what exactly was alleged, it’s possible that a 7 year old wouldn’t remember it correctly and instead grows up to believe the mother’s version of the day.

ozemouze;4282258 said:
On a different note, Allen's case is also a good example of the double standards of the media though: until the me-too era (and the Farrows' role in it) the press ignored the allegations against him whenever they could, so it didn't overshadow his work (as noted in the article it "remained somewhat dormant"), and even when it was inevitable to mention the case it was presented in a fair, factual manner (which is the way it should be done, of course).

So true! And still it tainted his image. :no:
 
ScreenOrigami;4282286 said:
You’re right. Of course we can’t know for sure what’s the truth, looking at the case from the outside. However, there are a couple of red flags:

  • a custody battle (massive red flag!)
  • a very complex case of jealousy over Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi
  • fame & money (no more Woody Allen film roles for Mia)
  • highly unlikely circumstances for the alleged abuse to happen
  • lack of credible evidence
  • Vanity Fair article by none other than Maureen Orth (*)
* Yes, the Maureen Orth who claimed MJ had 42 cows sacrificed for a voodoo curse on Steven Spielberg. :lmao:

All of this coupled with the fact that Woody was never charged with any crime, I’m definitely Team Woody on this one, although I agree with the author that it’s possible the children truly believe it happened. I don’t want to go into the details here, but if you research what exactly was alleged, it’s possible that a 7 year old wouldn’t remember it correctly and instead grows up to believe the mother’s version of the day.

Yep, these red flags (and their similarities to a certain other case) caught my eyes as well when I read about the topic (I just didn't want to repeat it as you did a great job with highlighting them in the article - thanks again for that!). And don't get me started on the fact that it's always the same circle of "journalists"... :fear:

I agree Allen should be regarded as cleared of any criminal conduct because of the the investigations and the lack of charges.

Actually when I wrote "we can't know for sure whose account is the closest to the truth" I was thinking more about the life in Farrow's family (independently from the allegations): it's a completely different experience when told by children still close to her (sort of idyllic), or when by those who became estranged from her during the years (tense and oppressive). Farrow adopted a lot of children with disabilities and from difficult circumstances, which is a commendable but also very hard task (for the children as well). In a way it's normal that their experiences (even their life paths) would be different and not always pleasant for several reasons. However these circumstances (almost everyone is carrying some burden from their past) could contribute to this very tense family dynamics some of them remember experiencing. Which is important because it can explain the atmosphere in which these kind of allegations could be formed, and even made the children believe in them (so eventually be traumatised by them). :/

ScreenOrigami;4282286 said:
So true! And still it tainted his image. :no:
Yep, you're right, especially in the last few years. But in his case I think it was a genuine (although unfair) outrage from the public, not orchestrated by the media. Ironically it's mostly about his relationship with Soon-Yi, which can be morally questioned (the cheating part), or because it's not really accepted by society (age gap, adopted daughter of the ex), but none of them is a criminal offence.

It also shows the hypocrisy and sheep mentality of Hollywood: until he was a celebrated director every actor/actress wanted to work with him, but after the me-too era blew everything out of proportions the same people started saying they regretted working with him, if only they had known... lol, like it wasn't known since the 90s.

As for enjoying Allen's (or other's) work: I'm overall against the "cancel culture" (I hope it's just a phase as it doesn't really make sense tbh), but that's a bit of topic (and a wide one). In short: do enjoy the great works of the (maybe-not-so-great :p) artists!

Thanks for still engaging btw, it's a case that's bothering me because of the misconseptions and hypocrisy surrounding it, it felt good to chat about it a bit. :)
 
ozemouze;4282312 said:
Actually when I wrote "we can't know for sure whose account is the closest to the truth" I was thinking more about the life in Farrow's family (independently from the allegations): it's a completely different experience when told by children still close to her (sort of idyllic), or when by those who became estranged from her during the years (tense and oppressive). Farrow adopted a lot of children with disabilities and from difficult circumstances, which is a commendable but also very hard task (for the children as well). In a way it's normal that their experiences (even their life paths) would be different and not always pleasant for several reasons. However these circumstances (almost everyone is carrying some burden from their past) could contribute to this very tense family dynamics some of them remember experiencing. Which is important because it can explain the atmosphere in which these kind of allegations could be formed, and even made the children believe in them (so eventually be traumatised by them). :/

Absolutely. It seems to be really complicated, and since it’s none of my business anyway, I only looked into the facts about the allegations until I came to a conclusion, and concerning everything else I was like:

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Woody Allen is also a very private person, and I respect that. I’m generally not a fan of discussing other people’s personal lives.

ozemouze;4282312 said:
As for enjoying Allen's (or other's) work: I'm overall against the "cancel culture" (I hope it's just a phase as it doesn't really make sense tbh), but that's a bit of topic (and a wide one). In short: do enjoy the great works of the (maybe-not-so-great :p) artists!

Exactly. Because where do you draw the line anyway? Try and cancel Weinstein, for instance. Where do you even begin?

That said, had MJ really been guilty, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy his music anymore, because he poured so much of himself into it, that him acting inappropriately with children would turn his entire body of work into one huge lie. I couldn’t “separate the art from the artist” because his art is a reflection of the artist.

ozemouze;4282312 said:
Thanks for still engaging btw, it's a case that's bothering me because of the misconseptions and hypocrisy surrounding it, it felt good to chat about it a bit. :)

The pleasure is all mine. :)
 
Well that's good news. though there are people who keep saying he guilty. they doing the samething with Michael. ugh. I wish people just stop doing stuff like this. these guys is nobody bank account. people who lie deserve some kind discipline so stuff like this can stop happening.
 
ScreenOrigami;4282358 said:
I’m generally not a fan of discussing other people’s personal lives.

Oh, me neither, tabloid "culture" makes me uncomfortable. It's nice if "celebrities" we care about share some insights into their daily lives, but not respecting others privacy is scary. And no matter how hard some media outlets try to suggest this to the public, it's not the norm that people choosing show business as profession should lose their right to privacy. We shouldn't accept (let alone support) that: it's invading the private lives of others what's strange.

It's a cultural/geographical/age thing as well I guess: e.g. in Europe there wasn't this gossip culture around famous people in the 50/60s (and still was much more moderate in the 70s), most of them could live a reasonably private life if they choose to.

The reason I still brought up the Farrow household is because it seems almost as important factor to the case as the other facts like the custody battle, the sour break up, fear of losing carrier opportunities etc. (which are also somewhat connected to private matters unfortunately).

ScreenOrigami;4282358 said:
Exactly. Because where do you draw the line anyway? Try and cancel Weinstein, for instance. Where do you even begin?

What do we do with Villon and *insert infinite list of poets/writers/musicians leading questionable lives during the decades*? :D

Plus cancel culture absolutely kills critical thinking, instead of education and intelligent debates about the complexity of human nature. I remember a "journalist" being completely lost during Halloween period when people were celebrating Thriller, asking desperately for what guidelines should she follow as she couldn't decide it for herself. :doh: :laughing:

On the other hand "personal ban" exists and is legitimate, of course. Throwing a CD (support, vote etc) into the trash for personal reasons as part of the public doesn't equal to deleting someone from history books (airplay, snob record stores, The Simpsons etc.) by those with power/platform.
 
ozemouze;4282396 said:
Oh, me neither, tabloid "culture" makes me uncomfortable. It's nice if "celebrities" we care about share some insights into their daily lives, but not respecting others privacy is scary. And no matter how hard some media outlets try to suggest this to the public, it's not the norm that people choosing show business as profession should lose their right to privacy. We shouldn't accept (let alone support) that: it's invading the private lives of others what's strange.

I couldn’t agree more, and I’m still in shock over how they treated MJ.

I grew up listening mostly to Heavy Metal, and we don’t have that tabloid, gossip, and mobbing culture. Musicians are treated respectfully and are allowed their privacy and personal space. I’ve personally seen famous musicians just walk out of the backstage area and mix with the crowd to check out the support band, and the fans actually stepped away a little to make more room for them to enjoy the show without being pushed around. Metal magazines also tend to focus primarily on the music, and only touch on personal issues when the artist wants to talk about them. Those interviews never have the Spanish Inquisition qualities of those that MJ had to deal with.

I always liked MJ’s music, but couldn’t deal with the media circus that surrounded him. When I like someone’s music, I usually want to learn more about it, but that just didn’t seem possible with MJ without dealing with all the hoopla. And no one interviewed him about his music anyway.

And it’s probably a very unpopular thing to say here, but I cringe when I see videos of MJ being mobbed by fans. All this talk about love and all, but the poor guy couldn’t even visit a bookstore without fans literally pushing through the store’s window. That’s terrifying.

ozemouze;4282396 said:
The reason I still brought up the Farrow household is because it seems almost as important factor to the case as the other facts like the custody battle, the sour break up, fear of losing carrier opportunities etc. (which are also somewhat connected to private matters unfortunately).

Yep, allegations of that kind are naturally linked to the personal lives of everyone involved, and it’s a very uncomfortable situation to have to look into it to understand what’s going on. I wish we wouldn’t have to do this, but unfortunately the media are so unreliable in their reporting on these cases, that there’s no other way to gather enough information to be prepared in case someone brings up the topic and has all the facts wrong.

ozemouze;4282396 said:
What do we do with Villon and *insert infinite list of poets/writers/musicians leading questionable lives during the decades*? :D

I have little to no knowledge about Villon’s life, so I can’t comment on that. :D

But I’d like to say that in general, I try to not judge a person by their darkest day in life. We all make mistakes, some of them worse than others, of course, but most of us aren’t in the public spotlight 24/7, so we get away with a lot of stupid things that a famous person would get dragged through the mud for. When MJ held his baby over the balcony railing for a split second, and the whole world freaked out, I would very much have liked to take a closer look at the oh-so-flawless lives of all his critics.

And even criminals deserve to get help and a second chance in life. I think that’s one of the major differences between the justice system in Germany and that of the USA. Over here, when someone is sentenced to prison, it is first of all to protect society from further wrongdoing of course, but the ultimate goal is reintegration into society, whereas in the USA prison time is mainly serving as punishment – which explains the sometimes ridiculous sentences where a young person will never have a chance to walk free again, and the spiteful media commentary that they “got what they deserved”.

ozemouze;4282396 said:
Plus cancel culture absolutely kills critical thinking, instead of education and intelligent debates about the complexity of human nature. I remember a "journalist" being completely lost during Halloween period when people were celebrating Thriller, asking desperately for what guidelines should she follow as she couldn't decide it for herself. :doh: :laughing:

Ha, I remember that one! I laughed. :laughing:

ozemouze;4282396 said:
On the other hand "personal ban" exists and is legitimate, of course. Throwing a CD (support, vote etc) into the trash for personal reasons as part of the public doesn't equal to deleting someone from history books (airplay, snob record stores, The Simpsons etc.) by those with power/platform.

Yup, I’ve binned a few items in the past, but I wouldn’t even talk about it here, because that’s everyone’s own decision. Taking to social media and starting a cancel campaign is a whole different thing.
 
ScreenOrigami;4282506 said:
I always liked MJ’s music, but couldn’t deal with the media circus that surrounded him. When I like someone’s music, I usually want to learn more about it, but that just didn’t seem possible with MJ without dealing with all the hoopla. And no one interviewed him about his music anyway.

Yep, what I can think of being about the music is the 1997 Ebony interview, a short one with Bill Bellamy about History in 1995 and that 1999 MTV interview that was strangely ignored (perhaps because it didn't justify the "weird persona" :/) and only resurfaced after his death. Oh and that one with Geraldo Rivera during the trial (!) still dealt more with MJ's work than the whole Oprah interview. It's unbelievable and tragic how many missed opportunities! They had the chance to ask him about his (quite amazing) working process, he could talk about his exceptionally creative teams, his inspirations, his knowledge in music and art... and almost no one did that, that's mind-blowing!

ScreenOrigami;4282506 said:
I grew up listening mostly to Heavy Metal, and we don’t have that tabloid, gossip, and mobbing culture. Musicians are treated respectfully and are allowed their privacy and personal space. I’ve personally seen famous musicians just walk out of the backstage area and mix with the crowd to check out the support band, and the fans actually stepped away a little to make more room for them to enjoy the show without being pushed around.

IMO the "availability" of the artists and the way how fans can connect with them largely depends on the circumstances as well (not to take away form the metal scene and its fans, of course :flowers:). The smaller the scale the easier to keep the boundaries and still make some sort of contact (even if it's just an appreciative nod from the other side of the street, it still requires that artists and fans walk the same street, haha).

E.g. my local favourite band had about 300 fans :D, did regular concerts (monthly at least) with always the same 300 fans (well, if everyone could attend :D). Obviously different dynamics to the situation when someone comes to your continent (not even country) in 5/10 years to do one show. Or a (let's say) Danish actor can walk around the street freely and be way more approachable than a Hollywood one (I would never understand why Mads Mikkelsen choose to move to Hollywood, haha).

Unfortunately MJ didn't get this freedom due to his enormous fame. A sort of similar dilemma that he had to do concerts in big venues to offer the masses the possibility to see him. It would have been amazing if he did small venues, but let's face it: most people couldn't afford to attend those and see him live. TBH sometimes I wish that Thriller wasn't that successful and MJ could remain an approachable star... but there's not much reality in this.

But I’d like to say that in general, I try to not judge a person by their darkest day in life. We all make mistakes, some of them worse than others, of course, but most of us aren’t in the public spotlight 24/7, so we get away with a lot of stupid things that a famous person would get dragged through the mud for. When MJ held his baby over the balcony railing for a split second, and the whole world freaked out, I would very much have liked to take a closer look at the oh-so-flawless lives of all his critics.

And even criminals deserve to get help and a second chance in life. I think that’s one of the major differences between the justice system in Germany and that of the USA. Over here, when someone is sentenced to prison, it is first of all to protect society from further wrongdoing of course, but the ultimate goal is reintegration into society, whereas in the USA prison time is mainly serving as punishment – which explains the sometimes ridiculous sentences where a young person will never have a chance to walk free again, and the spiteful media commentary that they “got what they deserved”.

I deeply agree with everything in here, thanks for expressing it! Especially what you wrote in the second paragraph, its importance seems to be more and more forgotten, moreover quite a lot of people can't even seem to understand it. Perhaps it's got to do with education, we don't get to learn our rights, duties and the basics of the rule of law sufficiently? Unfortunately today's atmosphere, the rise of populism and desinformation, the derailment of the me-too movement (which started as something good and important) and "the rush to judgement mentality" on social media (it's easier to condemn anonymously than IRL) etc. all contributes to the confusion.

As for MJ, unfortunately many fans criticise him too unfairly (I mean the person, the music is up to assessment of course), nitpicking his every move and choice. And if you say "oh give him a break" they will say you treat him as a saint. Well, that's actually that I don't treat him as such, but as a human, that's why it doesn't bother me that he made mistakes too. ;)

We went a bit off topic form the Allen allegations, but not entirelly so IMO as it also roots in this urge to judge someone from the outside, withouth knowing the facts.

Oh yeah, about Villon: he wasn't exactly a model citizen. :D
 
https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/woody-allen-memoir-ronan-dylan-farrow-hachette.html
Ronan Farrow Drops Publisher Over “Wildly Unprofessional” Decision to Publish Woody Allen’s Memoir

Journalist and author Ronan Farrow announced his intention to cut ties with his publisher, Hachette Book Group, on Tuesday after news broke that one of its divisions will publish Woody Allen’s upcoming memoir, Apropos of Nothing. Farrow, whose reporting on accusations of sexual assault helped launch the #MeToo movement, harshly criticized Hachette’s decision to publish his father’s book, claiming it demonstrates “a lack of ethics and compassion for victims of sexual abuse.”

https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/woody-allen-memoir-hachette-little-brown-walkout.html
A Hachette Book Group employee explains why she and dozens of others walked out to protest Woody Allen’s memoir

On Thursday, at 3 p.m. EST, a group of Hachette employees walked out of the company’s New York City headquarters “in support of Ronan and Dylan Farrow and all survivors of sexual assault,” according to a statement that employees tweeted out and shared in automated email responses from their work accounts. The walkout’s timing coincided with a town hall meeting that Hachette Book Group CEO Michael Pietsch had scheduled that afternoon to answer questions about the decision-making process behind acquiring and publishing Allen’s memoir. Instead of attending, protestors—many of them from the imprint that had published Farrow’s book, Little, Brown—stood outside for around an hour, then went home.

https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/woody-allen-book-canceled-hachette-walkout.html
Publisher Cancels Woody Allen’s Memoir After Employee Walkout

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And to think those people who've protested are probably very proud of themselves now, not even realising what they've contributed to. *sigh*

PS: I wasn't careful enough and read some comments... I wouldn't have thought this was possible, but it seems that there are even more misconceptions about the Allen case than the MJ one.
 
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  • Vanity Fair article by none other than Maureen Orth (*)
* Yes, the Maureen Orth who claimed MJ had 42 cows sacrificed for a voodoo curse on Steven Spielberg. :lmao:

Interesting how the same journalists that rip into Michael are the same ones that defend Woody Allen... Diane Dimond, Andrea Peyser... they ripped Michael to shreds and then coddled Allen even though he was (still is?) under fire for the same thing.

This post on Vindicating Michael goes into more detail. Although I'm not sure if the author is trying to be neutral on Allen or not, it is pretty telling how differently he was treated compared to Michael.
 
Isn&#8217;t it interesting how certain people who fabricate the wildest stories often seem to draw their inspiration from something someone else has written in the past? I&#8217;ll just leave the link here. It&#8217;s a super long article that untangles the whole backstory that led to the accusations, so have a cup of tea ready before you click through. ;)

The Woody Allen Controversy Reader: Did Dory Previn&#8217;s Song Lyrics Influence Mia Farrow In Accusing Woody Allen of Molestation? (Examining The Evidence)

It gets really wild in this chapter:

How Dory Previn&#8217;s Previously Written Song Lyrics Closely Paralleled Specific Facts In Dylan Farrow&#8217;s Accusation Against Woody Allen

Again, waaay to long to copy/paste here, but definitely recommended reading, as it parallels the way MJ&#8217;s accusers fleshed out their stories with details from the Gutierrez book.

It&#8217;s also quite interesting that Mia&#8217;s allegations made the first rounds in the media in late 1992 to early 1993. Not saying that there&#8217;s a connection to MJ&#8217;s accuser of course, but the media were definitely ready for those kind of allegations. When Woody&#8217;s case was closed in September 1993, it certainly left a vacuum that needed to be filled with new stories.

As you may know already, Woody Allen unsurprisingly found a new publisher for his memoir &#8220;Apropos of Nothing&#8221; and it&#8217;s out now. I haven&#8217;t read it yet, but I heard a good chunk of it deals with the allegations. I find it sad how fabricated allegations can become a part of someone&#8217;s life to the point they can&#8217;t write their memoirs without dedicating a chapter or two to them.
 
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