Michael - The Great Album Debate

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

It's possible that MJ worked on the song with Neff-U, and intended him to help work on it once in London, along with Eddie.

 

[Kapital77]

Yeah, like the shower/pvc explanation.

I don´t belive in Cascios.

Many strange things with those songs.... and Jason Malachi singing in 3 tracks from "MICHAEL" album.

 

[Dorian]

Yeah, like the shower/pvc explanation.

I don´t belive in Cascios.

Many strange things with those songs.... and Jason Malachi singing in 3 tracks from "MICHAEL" album.

The songs are registered as Neff-U tracks so why bring the Cascio in the discussion?

Maybe after all the songs are legit and that's it.

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

But surely Neff-U is believable, right? Like the Cascios, we've never really heard of him before now, at least not about working with MJ, but he seems completely believable and a true friend of MJ's.

 

[Kapital77]

The songs are registered as Neff-U tracks so why bring the Cascio in the discussion?

Maybe after all the songs are legit and that's it.

Not, many sources told that "Water" was a song from Cascios.

Ok?.

And they can tell me whatever they want, FOR ME, the Cascio´s songs are not legit, they were sung by JM.

 

[Kapital77]

But surely Neff-U is believable, right? Like the Cascios, we've never really heard of him before now, at least not about working with MJ, but he seems completely believable and a true friend of MJ's.

Yes, Michael worked with Neff-U, i don´t have any doubt.

But now, it´s strange that "Water", one of the songs from the Cascios, is registered by other producer.

He registered lyrics, production, sound recording, performance, etc...

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Anyone else find it very funny that Malachi is like the bizzaro MJ because MJ backwards if JM?

 

[Kapital77]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Yeah, it was his idea:

Jason/Jackson

Malachi/Michael

Cupeta, !!! we know the truth !!!

 

[MJRemixed]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Neff-U has taken the acapella of 'Water' (sung by jason malachi, but 'presented' as being sung by Michael) and produced/re-worked the track.

Exactly like Tricky Stewart did with KYHU.

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

But wouldn't Neff-U know MJ's voice to an incredibly high degree given that he was most likely the last producer to ever work with him? To me, he is a very credible person.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

He registered lyrics, production, sound recording, performance, etc...

That is NORMAL. They just register everything - even though the lyrics are most likely NOT(!) by "Neff-U" as he's mainly producing things.


And NO, "This Is It" IS one and the same song. This annotation "Do not confuse..." seems to come from an unofficial list.

 

[ivy]

Yeahh, Michael wrote many song about "Water", "H20"...

Sorry, but i can´t believe it.

If you go to the Estate of Michael Jackson register, you will see the song "Water" listed and nothing about the Cascios. It´s impossible that in that song it doesn´t show the name of the Cascio if they made it and if it was supossed to release in the next proyects.


Don´t tell me the excuse about the bridge, this was a song from Cascios, not from Feemster.

Eddie and Porte wrote that song, not Feemster.

By the way, i think that it´s another fake from Cascios, sung by Jason Malachi.

:cheeky:

I'm sorry why reject everything automatically? Just because it doesn't fit your way of thinking? Now are we going to start to suspect Neff-U and Michael Prince as well?

We had Frank Dileo saying that Michael would have worked on these songs in England, you have Roger Friedman claiming that Michael sang "water" during TII.

So perhaps he liked Cascio's "Water" song too much that he decided to work on it further with professional musicians in LA in 2009. Perhaps he re-wrote the lyrics, music etc and / or did additional parts and now those are copyrighted. And isn't the way that Michael worked? He reworked and revisited the songs multiple times? Why couldn't he start "water" with cascio's in 2007 and then later on edit/change it multiple times with professionals coming to "water" or "h2o"?

or the other alternative is that this is a totally different song that has nothing to do with Cascios.

plus :

It's possible that MJ worked on the song with Neff-U, and intended him to help work on it once in London, along with Eddie.

The songs are registered as Neff-U tracks so why bring the Cascio in the discussion?

Maybe after all the songs are legit and that's it.

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Yeah, that section of the "This Is It" explanation was from Wikipedia.

 

[KingMikeJ]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Have you heard water yet? NO.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Neff-U has taken the acapella of 'Water' (sung by jason malachi, but 'presented' as being sung by Michael) and produced/re-worked the track.

Exactly like Tricky Stewart did with KYHU.

It's your personal assumption that it's Jason Malachi. You shouldn't speak as if that would be the ultimate truth.

Take it to the court if you're so sure to be right, okay?

 

[MJRemixed]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

But wouldn't Neff-U know MJ's voice to an incredibly high degree given that he was most likely the last producer to ever work with him? To me, he is a very credible person.

Ask this question regarding Tricky Stewart & Teddy Riley too.

KYHU & Slave = Tricky Stewart
HT & BN & Monster = Teddy Riley

Both producers of genuine MJ tracks and FAKE MJ tracks.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

The 12 Cascio songs:

• All I Need
• A.. .....
• Black Widow
• Breaking News
• Burn 2 Night
• F... .. ....
• Keep Your Head Up
• Monster
• Ready 2 Win
• S...... ...
• Stay
• Water

Exclusive phone conversation between Eddie and Jason:

Eddie: -All I need is 5,000,000 $
Jason: -All right, I can make it happen.
Eddie: -Ok, but how are we gonna make it? We don't even have a demo.
Jason:- Don't worry, just tell them that you erased all the files from your [...unaudible...] black SONY VAIO [...unaudible...] Windows [...unaudible].
Eddie: What!? A black widow?
Jason: - No! Not black widow. I was referring to the operating system -Windows- on your black laptop SONY Vaio. I said erase it completely.
Eddie: - I got it. No trace on the laptop. New "MJ's" songs! That's gonna make breaking news in the media.
Jason: I'll burn 2 night a cd with my voice over your instrumentals and tell me what you think. If MJ's fans recognize me, I'll deny it and say something like if it was me I'd do a better job.
Eddie: F[... .. ....unaudible]! Anyway I hope it'll work!
Jason: Keep your head up dude. Trust me, I know what I am doing.
Eddie: I must be a monster doing this to Mike. You, as a fan, too actually!
Jason: Eddie, in this world, there are winners and losers. Do you wanna be a loser? No? Then, if you wanna be a winner you must be ready 2 win, no matter what.
Eddie: - Yes, but s[...... ...unaudible]. Can we keep it in the closet?
Jason: -You've got my word, it'll stay between us.
Eddie: - Ok, I'm gonna water my studio from the shower through a pvc pipe now, it's been so long I haven't done it. See you soon pal.
Jason: -See you soon dude, I'm gonna suck up some air underneath me and kill up some time recording my voice for you.

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I didn't know that Tricky Stewart worked on "Slave To the Rhythm". What other MJ songs has he worked on? Besides, if there are these very trusted producers working on these songs, surely that does give a little bit of thinking that they're real? I'd be incredibly suspicious if these songs were worked on by people that never worked with MJ before.

 

[Kapital77]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Neff-U has taken the acapella of 'Water' (sung by jason malachi, but 'presented' as being sung by Michael) and produced/re-worked the track.

Exactly like Tricky Stewart did with KYHU.

Yeah, but in "KYHU" they credited the song with Cascio in the lyrics.

In this register for "Water" there is no Cascio listed.

I think that they are using Feemster to legitimate one of their songs.

 

[Dorian]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I didn't know that Tricky Stewart worked on "Slave To the Rhythm". What other MJ songs has he worked on? Besides, if there are these very trusted producers working on these songs, surely that does give a little bit of thinking that they're real? I'd be incredibly suspicious if these songs were worked on by people that never worked with MJ before.

I think he meant Stay.

@Kapital.That is illegal.If it's real(which I really doubt) Neff-U would take some legal action.

 

[Kapital77]

Please understand this:

Sony sold an album telling that it was the new music that Mj was working for.

Ok.

They sold the album with 4 songs from 2007, 1 from 2009, 2 from 2001-2009, and 3 from 80´s.

And now, they found 9 songs from 2009?.

With those tittles?:

¿D.I.E?
¿H20?
¿WATER?

What the hell is this? They could use those 9 songs from 2009 in the "MICHAEL" album, avoid the Cascio´s tracks, avoid the controversy, and look.... now the registered 9 tracks from 2009.

INCREDIBLE !!!!

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

These songs are NOT(!) from 2009! "Date of creation" can be misleading.

E.g.: "Wonderful World Of Candy" is from 2003!!! But it also says "date of creation: 2009" at the US copyright office which is wrong.


Be careful with that information. It's very often NOT(!) the date of the recording.

 

[Kapital77]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Yeah, but Michael worked with Feemster in 2009, not before.

 

[Jesta]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Actually, I believe he's been working with Neff-U since 2003. Plus he worked on "Hollywood Tonight" with Neff-U in 2007.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Yeah, but Michael worked with Feemster in 2009, not before.

Yes, this could mean that "Neff-U" and probably MJ, too, have touched some of his older songs in early 2009 for the last time.

We don't know at the moment.


"Neff-U" is supposed to have worked with MJ from 2006-2009. We don't know much though.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I still can't believe he actually recorded a song called "Water".

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

^ But he DID. The US copyright office speaks volumes.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I still can't believe he actually recorded a song called "Water".

I for once agree with you!

Although I am not excluding a possibility of its existence, I honestly think that MJ in This Is It simply spontaneously and randomly sang water because he was told to have some.

I don't believe Roger Friedman and his so called sources.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

^ But he DID. The US copyright office speaks volumes.

Oh, I'm not doubting he did. I just find it weird because so many people said it was from TII, and like Bumper said, the "water, water" part just seemed like a spontaneous reaction on Michael's part.


Can you imagine the actual song releases, and it shares the same lyrics as it's big screen counterpart? :wild:...It'd be so awkward, granted I'm saying these things without hearing the song yet.

 

[ivy]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I for once agree with you!

Although I am not excluding a possibility of its existence, I honestly think that MJ in This Is It simply spontaneously and randomly sang water because he was told to have some.

I don't believe Roger Friedman and his so called sources.

Oh, I'm not doubting he did. I just find it weird because so many people said it was from TII, and like Bumper said, the "water, water" part just seemed like a spontaneous reaction on Michael's part.


Can you imagine the actual song releases, and it shares the same lyrics as it's big screen counterpart? :wild:...It'd be so awkward, granted I'm saying these things without hearing the song yet.

I too agree that the "water water" in TII seemed soo spontaneous and not like a song.

But Cascio or no Cascio apparently he had a fixation on water (as can be seen by "water" and "H2O") and working on a song with that name