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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

ivy said:
Jermaine and Latoya's books hasn't received this much hate before their release. there was a "let's not buy / I'm not interested" mood - which I have no problems with regardless of who the author is. Jermaine's book created anger after the "escape story" but soon after it was gone away as the book generally positive. and it even turned to "I might buy the book" mood.
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No way! Latoya's book received as much, if not more hate.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Justthefacts said:
I know I said I would not say anymore but let me say this. People spend too much time worrying about what the media will say. What Michael means to you goes beyond what anyone media things.
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That's true. I can only speak for myself but if the media would stop being so negative towards Michael and print other things that show non fans or the general public what a great person he was that would great. He was treated so badly and hurt by it. It feels like it never stops and I wish it would because he is gone now. When I talk to people about Michael I get scared sometimes what they might say because of the bs they read or hear in the media. Ofcourse I will defend Michael always but it hurts to hear how cruel people can be.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Justthefacts said:
I know I said I would not say anymore but let me say this. People spend too much time worrying about what the media will say. What Michael means to you goes beyond what anyone media things.
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I understand, but I worry for Michael's legacy. He will always be known as a musical genius, but there is always that dark mark due to the allegations, drug use and negative labelling that he was some sort of weird person. And all these negatives are overshadowing the good he did - his philanthropic efforts for example. And I'll be lying if I say it doesn't bother me.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Justthefacts said:
Well Ivy I am sorry but you have to understand why people feel the way they do. This is not a good time if Franks puts everything in context and makes sense then great but don't expect people to just sit down and say nothing not after what we have all been through
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so hang first, apologize later?

Rhilo said:
No way! Latoya's book received as much, if not more hate.
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latoya's book had 30 pages of discussion before it's release. no one said "she can't write a book" and no one wanted to organize anything against it. the posts were more like a mockery than anger. her promises in the book seemed to be empty (telling Michael's murderers) so there was a general consensus of not buy mood. after the book release it got bad reviews. and soon it become an irrelevant topic. total discussion is 85 pages.

jermaine's book had 40 pages of discussion before its release. general negative messages was about how Jermaine wanted to portray himself as close to Michael. again no one said he can't write a book or suggested anything against it. positive messages was about how he always said Michael wasn't an addict etc. Word to the badd and Tohme topics were looked forward to. It got heated just the time it got released due to escape story and how the media sensationalised it. but with the reviews it got mellow again with a lot of neutral to positive reviews (and I'm one of those). It has 105 pages total.

do I have to compare it to this thread?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Frank Cascio had a choice, to sell my friend Michael Jackson out or not?......he saw the $$$ signs and chose to sell Michael Jackson out. Plain and simple. He's just joining the long list that already exists.

Doctor Murray said Michael told him that he was his only friend, Frank said he was Michael's friend....seem to me NONE of these people truly fit the description of the word friend. Michael Jackson means $$$$ to people and friendship be damned, they are gonna get theirs.

I'm just tired of the foolishness, just damn tired! The darn bed he died in will be sold, his pyjamas and other personal stuff up to the highest bidder, why are people hell bent on taking any bit of privacy this man had? why do people feel the need to let the whole darn world know every striking bit of detail about this mans personal life? while at the same time claim they are just doing it for him, so the world can understand him some more?
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

ivy said:
so hang first, apologize later?



latoya's book had 30 pages of discussion before it's release. no one said "she can't write a book" and no one wanted to organize anything against it. the posts were like a mockery than anger. after the book release it got bad reviews. total discussion is 85 pages.

jermaine's book had 40 pages of discussion before it's release. general negative messages was about how Jermaine wanted to portray himself as close to Michael. again no one said he can't write a book or suggested anything against it. positive messages was about how he always said Michael wasn't an addict etc. Word to the badd and Tohme topics were looked forward to. It got heated just the time it got released due to escape story and how the media sensationalised it. but with the reviews it got mellow again with a lot of neutral to positive reviews (and I'm one of those). It has 105 pages total.

do I have to compare it to this thread?
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You can't make a comparison based on the number of pages. The reason why this thread has ballooned to 121 pages is because there is a clear division of fans, and both sides are equally adamant at not backing down. Thus, each post is followed by another post that tries to disapprove it, adding to the length of the thread. In Latoya's and Jermaine's book threads there was no going back and forth as seen here. Most were in agreement, but the anger was still the same, moreso for Latoya's book I would say.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

ivy said:
so hang first, apologize later?



latoya's book had 30 pages of discussion before it's release. no one said "she can't write a book" and no one wanted to organize anything against it. the posts were more like a mockery than anger. her promises in the book seemed to be empty (telling Michael's murderers) so there was a general consensus of not buy mood. after the book release it got bad reviews. and soon it become an irrelevant topic. total discussion is 85 pages.

jermaine's book had 40 pages of discussion before its release. general negative messages was about how Jermaine wanted to portray himself as close to Michael. again no one said he can't write a book or suggested anything against it. positive messages was about how he always said Michael wasn't an addict etc. Word to the badd and Tohme topics were looked forward to. It got heated just the time it got released due to escape story and how the media sensationalised it. but with the reviews it got mellow again with a lot of neutral to positive reviews (and I'm one of those). It has 105 pages total.

do I have to compare it to this thread?
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Yes Ivy sorry to say but that is how it is. We have heard enough crap about Michael and if people feel slighted by Frank that is just how it is
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

I see Ivy's point but I also understand everyone's frustration. People are just tired of hearing crap about Michael
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Exotic i agree. All the people who rush to the media to tell negative stories about Michael say they are his friends including Frank. Frank is going to have it both ways then--happy because he gave the publishers/media/general public what they want such as juicy negative trash, and happy because he could say in a Q&A anything to make fans happy and some of them will accept it. Why should he care then; he made both sides happy.

Legacy please get that action going.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Rhilo said:
You can't make a comparison based on the number of pages. The reason why this thread has ballooned to 121 pages is because there is a clear division of fans, and both sides are equally adamant at not backing down. Thus, each post is followed by another post that tries to disapprove it, adding to the length of the thread. In Latoya's and Jermaine's book threads there was no going back and forth as seen here. Most were in agreement, but the anger was still the same, moreso for Latoya's book I would say.
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I just didn't compare pages numbers, did I? Show me the organized action talks against those books? where was trying to get the betrayals of Latoya and Jermaine known as much as their books action call? and it's just what's been mentioned in the last 2 pages.
 
Justthefacts said:
I know I said I would not say anymore but let me say this. People spend too much time worrying about what the media will say. What Michael means to you goes beyond what anyone media things.
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That sounds great and if that's how you feel again great. Just think about this.10 years from now only a few of us may remember the real Michael Jackson. Meanwhile the rest of the world remembers him as a druggie that spent all of his time high, or trying to get high. Michael needs a voice of constant truth to combat small fires of sensationalism because if not, they will grow and that's all the people will remember.
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

imo..when a friend crosses "the line"...of putting negative stuff out there for people to judge you on...."they" are no longer "a friend". How many people here have "friends" that would say negative stuff about them to the world..and then STILL consider them a "friend". I know I sure wouldn't. I surely wouldn't need friends like that.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

What I find upsetting is the mentality of "If you are not against Frank, you must be with him" in this thread. It seems to me that to those who have already made up their mind about this, it's not comprehensible that there are fans such a s myself, who would like to pass their final judgment after having read the book.
It rubs people the wrong way if you don't jump onto this hate-wagon immediately. Hence the assumption that people are defending him. No one is defending Frank here.
Since Ivy offered to read and review the book asap, I shall wait and see... who knows, I might actually hate Frank's guts after this. I don't want to base my opinion on assumptions, I simply want to know all the facts first, read the whole book, not just some excerpts and form my own opinion. So please don't judge those who don't hate Frank as of yet. I know emotions are high right now but let's not confuse neutrality with support for Frank.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

This is horrible. I don't understand how anyone can defend this. I don't care if the info has been rumored before, that doesn't mean his "friend" should come out and confirm it making MJ look like a dope head and a reckless druggie. He, of all people, knows damn well how the media works and this is NOT TO MICHAEL'S BENEFIT! Whose benefit it is for? I think we all know the answer to this question.

I'm so sorry, Michael. Your close "friend" Frank Cascio has turned out to be just another sell-out. You truly had no one you could fully trust.

My heart breaks for MJ. Everyone is dragging his name through the mud -- friends, family, associates - without him being able to respond, defend himself, just so they can make a few bucks. And when it comes from people he trusted and considered friends, it makes it all the more repulsive.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

ivy said:
I just didn't compare pages numbers, did I? Show me the organized action talks against those books? where was trying to get the betrayals of Latoya and Jermaine known as much as their books action call? and it's just what's been mentioned in the last 2 pages.
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I did try to organize something. And I specifically begged people no to buy these two books.

I hope someone does organize something against Frank's book, like Murray, he should be allowed to profit from MJ's death.

serendipity said:
This is horrible. I don't understand how anyone can defend this. I don't care if the info has been rumored before, that doesn't mean his "friend" should come out and confirm it making MJ look like a dope head and a reckless druggie. He, of all people, knows damn well how the media works and this is NOT TO MICHAEL'S BENEFIT! Whose benefit it is for? I think we all know the answer to this question.

I'm so sorry, Michael. Your close "friend" Frank Cascio has turned out to be just another sell-out. You truly had no one you could fully trust.

My heart breaks for MJ. Everyone is dragging his name through the mud -- friends, family, associates - without him being able to respond, defend himself, just so they can make a few bucks. And when it comes from people he trusted and considered friends, it makes it all the more repulsive.
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It angers me to no end, that Michael allowed leeches like Conrad Murray, Frank Cascio, Rabbi Schmuley, the Spoon bender, The Chopras in his life.

They are all the same.

They are all cut from the same cloth. All backstabbers. All ready to throw him under the bus for a few thousands dangled in front of them. Do they realize money doesn't bring happiness? They will have to live forever with the thought that they backstabbed someone who would never do such a thing to them.

But then again, evil has no conscience.

 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

We're in a global recession and people still find the cash to buy this crap??????
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

ivy said:
I just didn't compare pages numbers, did I? Show me the organized action talks against those books? where was trying to get the betrayals of Latoya and Jermaine known as much as their books action call? and it's just what's been mentioned in the last 2 pages.
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I don't know about an action call, but I know for a fact that I asked people to write negative reviews on Amazon for Latoya's book, and of course the book was boycotted - many chose to not buy it. Many people, discussed and tweeted her. If those aren't action calls, what are they? I think the action call here is certainly different because more people are of the notion that MJJC is somehow supportive of Frank's book, with the Q&A and such. That wasn't the case for Latoya's.

Might I add that in the case of Latoya, we didn't expect any better. Here was a woman who had already accused her brother of the most heinous crime, and now had aligned herself with the family against the Estate. Yes, we didn't expect any different from her book.

For Frank, it was different. We thought his motive was to do justice to Michael's memory. We had higher expectations for his book. This was a book I was initially planning to get. So naturally, the disappointment is more. Don't you understand that? We all feel so let down that Michael is being let down. And this was not what we expected from his book.
 
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I've been reading some of the news reports for this up coming book and it sounds to me like Frank is trying to deflect any perceived negativity towards him to Michael. Making himself sound like a hero.

Now you should ask yourself, what's he really trying to hide??


OK...let's all chew on that for awhile.

News reports here.......

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...1/new-michael-jackson-book-details-drug-use/1

http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainm...limpse-of-Jackson-s-personal-life-2265543.php

I would have been happier if he kept his mouth shut.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

While I'm at it, why is MJJC promoting the company in the banner who:

- Has been Kurt Loder's soundbox for the past 30 years, and
- Infamously set up MJ with an "Artist of the Millenium" award on their website, and then removed all mention making MJ look like an egocentric lunatic

...all in the name of some promotional board award? Am I the only one who is bewildered?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Rhilo said:
I don't know about an action call, but I know for a fact that I asked people to write negative reviews on Amazon for Latoya's book, and of course the book was boycotted - many chose to not buy it. Many people, discussed and tweeted her. If those aren't action calls, what are they? I think the action call here is certainly different because more people are of the notion that MJJC is somehow supportive of Frank's book, with the Q&A and such. That wasn't the case for Latoya's.

Might I add that in the case of Latoya, we didn't expect any better. Here was a woman who had already accused her brother of the most heinous crime, and now had aligned herself with the family against the Estate. Yes, we didn't expect any different from her book.

For Frank, it was different. We thought his motive was to do justice to Michael's memory. We had higher expectations for his book. This was a book I was initially planning to get. So naturally, the disappointment is more. Don't you understand that? We all feel so let down that Michael is being let down. And this was not what we expected from his book.
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I totally agree with the bolded.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Rhilo said:
Well a good thing about his book excerpts being out is that the majority here don't seem to want to buy the book anymore. I won't, and I hope it flops big time. That's what he deserves for selling out his 'friend'.

I've noticed that from Michael's close friends, the only ones who have respected his privacy are celebrities themselves - Diana Ross, Elizabeth Taylor, Liza Minnelli come to mind. It maybe due to a number of reasons. The genuineness of their friendship might be the main factor, but I also think being celebrities themselves they were able to empathize with his need for privacy, and having plenty of money and fame of their own they bore no hidden agendas to capitalize and make money off the friendship they shared with Michael.

That is what sets people like the Cascios apart from the likes of above. The Cascios are regular folks, for all their years of friendship they still might have been in awe of Michael, and his celebrity status. They may have viewed the friendship as something that could benefit their family materially, knowing how generous Michael was with his friends. And with Michael gone, they still see it as a friendship that could be used to make money at whatever cost to Michael's reputation and legacy: the book.

Ivy, I think you are missing the point many are making here. We are not denying Michael's frequent use of prescription medication for various illnesses, the point is all this has been hacked to death in the media. We don't want another person, a friend on top of that, coming out with a book perpetuating the same stuff.

A friend, especially, shouldn't be doing that - because we have enough of that out already. Why couldn't he focus on the positives in Michael's life? Isn't that what people do when a supposed good friend passes away? Have you ever been to a funeral and have that persons close family and friends bring up the deceased persons issues in their eulogies, "well he was a great father, but he was an alcoholic yada yada yada..." Leave the nitpicking to the media, and detractors, but why would he follow that beaten track if he considers himself to have been a good friend? That is not what real friends do. Trust.
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Don't forget Macaulay Culkin & Chris Tucker! They've been very loyal friends since the beginning and still are!
 
MsCassieMollie;3536537 said:
See how the news article are basically ignoring the 'excerpts' and focused on the drug-related ones (the titles) they posted from Frank's book. Again look at the titles.

Jackson
Jackson ‘took drug propofol in 1999’
New Michael Jackson book details drug use
New Michael Jackson book details drug use
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This is the problem. How does that help Michael? I don't want that.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Snow White 1937 said:
What I find upsetting is the mentality of "If you are not against Frank, you must be with him" in this thread. It seems to me that to those who have already made up their mind about this, it's not comprehensible that there are fans such a s myself, who would like to pass their final judgment after having read the book.
It rubs people the wrong way if you don't jump onto this hate-wagon immediately. Hence the assumption that people are defending him. No one is defending Frank here.
Since Ivy offered to read and review the book asap, I shall wait and see... who knows, I might actually hate Frank's guts after this. I don't want to base my opinion on assumptions, I simply want to know all the facts first, read the whole book, not just some excerpts and form my own opinion. So please don't judge those who don't hate Frank as of yet. I know emotions are high right now but let's not confuse neutrality with support for Frank.
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and you have every right to wait and see how you feel about the book and Frank after ivy summarizes it for us. My anger IS NOT towards ivy AT ALL. I am so thankful for what she does for this community on a daily bases...(Thank you again Ivy). I myself...just cannot find it in my OWN heart to even except Frank's book now...even if 95 percent of it IS positive. I think Michael's death and and "the addict talk" from people has just worn me down..and I cannot tolerate anymore negative talk about Michael in the name of friendship...siblings or even his enemies. I personally dont hate Frank..I dont even know Frank...I just cannot take him putting Michael's business out there, I am almost 45 years old...and I have been a MJ fan since 1977...I have seen alot of bull said about Michael....I am just done now...I cannot take anymore crap about drugs or anything else about Michael. They need to leave it alone now and let Michael rest in peace and stop trying to "set the record straight about Michael"...because imo.,."they" are not helping him at all. They are just hurting fans more. We are not blind we know that Michael had some issues...we dont need frank or anyone else to clarify that for us. We are all dealing with Michael's passing in our own way,,,and here we are trying to heal...and people just keep on with the books and the "oh 95 % of it is positive,,,ok but the other 5% is not..and THAT is unacceptable in MY book,.
 
MsCassieMollie;3536537 said:
See how the news article are basically ignoring the 'excerpts' and focused on the drug-related ones (the titles) they posted from Frank's book. Again look at the titles.

Jackson
Jackson ‘took drug propofol in 1999’
New Michael Jackson book details drug use
New Michael Jackson book details drug use
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Don't blame the press, it was fed to them. The book is coming out soon, and no one was talking about it in the media until today. Don't thing Cascio & his publisher aren't these headlines. Just like Jermaine & his publisher were behind the escape story that came out the weekend before his book release.

It's all a ploy for maximum exposure. I cannot tell how much the guy makes me wanna vomit right now...he is a con artist. They probably went on their knees to keep MJ's friendship over the years, and the poor guy probably believed they loved him, not Michael Jackson. He probably never suspected the family he ran to to avoid his, were as horrendously greedy and backstabbing as his own.

Whoever wants to organize a real campaign against Frank's book...count me in.
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

xthunderx2 said:
imo..when a friend crosses "the line"...of putting negative stuff out there for people to judge you on...."they" are no longer "a friend". How many people here have "friends" that would say negative stuff about them to the world..and then STILL consider them a "friend". I know I sure wouldn't. I surely wouldn't need friends like that.
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okay I'll tell the story in detail that I mentioned earlier today.

Back in my home country while working in the music industry I met several famous people. There was this girl who was famous in her right and highly loved due to energetic and funny nature. She was like the highly loved funny girl next door to the public. She had no scandals and nothing about her private life was known by the public.

One day she suddenly died at an early age.

It was so unexpected that it created a curiosity in the public. Why did she die? Then the stories started coming out she had alcohol, it could be prescription drugs and she was with another man than her husband..

from highly loved girl next door, she went to an alcoholic whore overnight.

Some people even said she deserved to die as she was such a horrible person or that they weren't feeling sorry that she died.

What did her friends do? They talked and talked and talked. Honestly if someone is your friend and if your friend is suddenly vilified like that, you feel like you have to talk to defend them. To her friends these stories wasn't revelations, they knew her demons. When she was alive they had no reason to rat her out, but when she died and she was vilified everything was changed.

and the only way to combat such negativity is by acknowledging it. when someone sees that friend as an alcoholic whore, you can not counter that by telling how funny she was. You have to start by saying "yes she was with another man but... ", that's the only way you can correct that misconception.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011

Who made the offer to interview Frank? Him or MJJC?
 
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xthunderx2 said:
and you have every right to wait and see how you feel about the book and Frank after ivy summarizes it for us. My anger IS NOT towards ivy AT ALL. I am so thankful for what she does for this community on a daily bases...(Thank you again Ivy). I myself...just cannot find it in my OWN heart to even except Frank's book now...even if 95 percent of it IS positive. I think Michael's death and and "the addict talk" from people has just worn me down..and I cannot tolerate anymore negative talk about Michael in the name of friendship...siblings or even his enemies. I personally dont hate Frank..I dont even know Frank...I just cannot take him putting Michael's business out there, I am almost 45 years old...and I have been a MJ fan since 1977...I have seen alot of bull said about Michael....I am just done now...I cannot take anymore crap about drugs or anything else about Michael. They need to leave it alone now and let Michael rest in peace and stop trying to "set the record straight about Michael"...because imo.,."they" are not helping him at all. They are just hurting fans more. We are not blind we know that Michael had some issues...we dont need frank or anyone else to clarify that for us. We are all dealing with Michael's passing in our own way,,,and here we are trying to heal...and people just keep on with the books and the "oh 95 % of it is positive,,,ok but the other 5% is not..and THAT is unacceptable in MY book,.
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I feel the same way. I am just tired of it all and want Michael to have peace.
 
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