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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151
Can someone put a transcript of the interview here?
Can someone put a transcript of the interview here?
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Interesting. Frank doesn't refer to it as "Elton John's house". He says "Elton stepped in and coordinated Michael's transfer to another rehab place - a private estate outside London that was much more Michael's speed." This was after MJ (according to Frank) tried to escape from the first rehab place lol. Frank also says Michael asked them to visit him in the second "rehab". How does one go through rehab in a private estate and not an actual rehab facility? Things just don't add up with this.
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A little bird whispered to me that what I said ended up on the lovely site LSA. And hi to you who think I'm naive and that I'm like Karen. I do know that Michael drank wine, I even saw him doing this. He did say he doesn't like the taste really. But that's it. He drank wine and drinks, he loved the drink Smurf because of the color.
And I'm not a follower fan, tell the women over at LSA that too. I didn't even know the term before June 25. I know now that one of the girls being at the same place as me when Michael had his ramble is a follower, had no idea back then. And I want to point out again that I wasn't alone when he said this.
And I worked with him, and with, not for. I wasn't a fanatic fan, liked his music but not so much more. It's a privilege to have him donate money to our shelter and visit us. And for me it was a very big privilege since I got to know him and visit Neverland a few times and meet him at other places.
I can't understand why some want him to be this man who cheated and slept with everyone. He wasn't like that. And he did say it wasn't true about those going on TV. You were not in that room and could see how upset he was about it. And if he now had one woman that he loved and adored, is it so wrong? He did flirt a lot, doesn't mean he cheated.
He would never treat a woman like that. And I'm not naive when I say that, I draw that conclusion after spending lots of time with and around him, and from his own words. He respected women very much. I know as everyone that he kept seeing LMP and still being married to Debbie. He had his explanation for that and I buy it.
Don't bother with LSA....they have their own issues which I can't be bothered stating here.
Best you don't respond, otherwise you will go tit for tat and end up saying more than you really wanted.
Memefan;3543400 said:Don't bother with LSA....they have their own issues which I can't be bothered stating here.
Best you don't respond, otherwise you will go tit for tat and end up saying more than you really wanted.
moodyblue97;3543435 said:Thanks. I know, and that is why I probably shouldn´t have said anything from the start, but the itch in my fingers took over. I won´t say more now since as you said it would end up with me saying more than I should and want.
Seems like Michael was not always honest with Frank or let's say omitted the truth and information. That's how much of a friend Frank was to him...
A person not revealing all or most intimate feeling or moments of their life to someone doesn't mean they dont have a close friendship with that person. I dont think Michael shared his most intimate feelings or fears with anyone except for Maybe Elizabeth Taylor. In fact he said he did share most everything with her. Most men find it easier to open up and discuss intimate feelings or problems with women friends than with men. Just sayin - That doesnt show or mean he didnt consider frank a close friend. Could be he just didnt feel comfortable discussing everything.
I dont reveal everything to my close friends and it certainly doens't mean I dont care about them or dont trust them. For the most part I just dont like to burden people with all my probs or share intimate feelings that are personal to me. I have ONE person that I can feel comfortable sharing details or personal things with and thats only one of my sisters. I dont like anyone knowing why, how or when I do everything or what my personal thoughts are about everything. I would asume most people are like that. No one needs to know everything. And I will say once I die i could care less what people reveal what they know about me becuase i dont have any deep dark sinister secrets to hide either.
I think MJ was very selective about who he shared his inner thoughts with.
Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
Yes, I have to agree with qbee. I myself also didn't like to share my personal feeling maybe only to my mom not even my sister. I still didn't tell everything to my mom. It's just feel weird to share everything. I also had some close friends since high school. I talked to them about lots of things but not everything. Sometimes, if something is too embarrassed for me to tell and they were eager to know. I would give some explanation and it might not represent what I really go through. They were my best friend but sometimes I just feel not easy to share everything. People like MJ having so many people approaching him with purpose. I can totally understand he didn't reveal everything. I don't think it means MJ is not close to Frank. Maybe they fallout after Frank worked for him. Maybe something happened to make MJ didn't trusted him as much as before. I do believe they were at least really close before Frank was working for him.
1) Now, since you guys believe MJ didn't fully trust Frank with his personal information or wasn't always truthful with him, to safeguard his privacy,
</SPAN>suzynyc;3543338 said:Interesting. Frank doesn't refer to it as "Elton John's house". He says "Elton stepped in and coordinated Michael's transfer to another rehab place</SPAN> - a private estate outside London that was much more Michael's speed." This was after MJ (according to Frank) tried to escape from the first rehab place lol. Frank also says Michael asked them to visit him in the second "rehab". How does one go through rehab in a private estate and not an actual rehab facility? Things just don't add up with this.</SPAN>
A little bird whispered to me that what I said ended up on the lovely site LSA. And hi to you who think I'm naive and that I'm like Karen. I do know that Michael drank wine, I even saw him doing this. He did say he doesn't like the taste really. But that's it. He drank wine and drinks, he loved the drink Smurf because of the color.
And I'm not a follower fan, tell the women over at LSA that too. I didn't even know the term before June 25. I know now that one of the girls being at the same place as me when Michael had his ramble is a follower, had no idea back then. And I want to point out again that I wasn't alone when he said this.
And I worked with him, and with, not for. I wasn't a fanatic fan, liked his music but not so much more. It's a privilege to have him donate money to our shelter and visit us. And for me it was a very big privilege since I got to know him and visit Neverland a few times and meet him at other places.
I can't understand why some want him to be this man who cheated and slept with everyone. He wasn't like that. And he did say it wasn't true about those going on TV. You were not in that room and could see how upset he was about it. And if he now had one woman that he loved and adored, is it so wrong? He did flirt a lot, doesn't mean he cheated.
He would never treat a woman like that. And I'm not naive when I say that, I draw that conclusion after spending lots of time with and around him, and from his own words. He respected women very much. I know as everyone that he kept seeing LMP and still being married to Debbie. He had his explanation for that and I buy it.
A little bird whispered to me that what I said ended up on the lovely site LSA. And hi to you who think I'm naive and that I'm like Karen. I do know that Michael drank wine, I even saw him doing this. He did say he doesn't like the taste really. But that's it. He drank wine and drinks, he loved the drink Smurf because of the color.
And I'm not a follower fan, tell the women over at LSA that too. I didn't even know the term before June 25. I know now that one of the girls being at the same place as me when Michael had his ramble is a follower, had no idea back then. And I want to point out again that I wasn't alone when he said this.
And I worked with him, and with, not for. I wasn't a fanatic fan, liked his music but not so much more. It's a privilege to have him donate money to our shelter and visit us. And for me it was a very big privilege since I got to know him and visit Neverland a few times and meet him at other places.
I can't understand why some want him to be this man who cheated and slept with everyone. He wasn't like that. And he did say it wasn't true about those going on TV. You were not in that room and could see how upset he was about it. And if he now had one woman that he loved and adored, is it so wrong? He did flirt a lot, doesn't mean he cheated.
He would never treat a woman like that. And I'm not naive when I say that, I draw that conclusion after spending lots of time with and around him, and from his own words. He respected women very much. I know as everyone that he kept seeing LMP and still being married to Debbie. He had his explanation for that and I buy it.
A little bird whispered to me that what I said ended up on the lovely site LSA. And hi to you who think I'm naive and that I'm like Karen. I do know that Michael drank wine, I even saw him doing this. He did say he doesn't like the taste really. But that's it. He drank wine and drinks, he loved the drink Smurf because of the color.
And I'm not a follower fan, tell the women over at LSA that too. I didn't even know the term before June 25. I know now that one of the girls being at the same place as me when Michael had his ramble is a follower, had no idea back then. And I want to point out again that I wasn't alone when he said this.
And I worked with him, and with, not for. I wasn't a fanatic fan, liked his music but not so much more. It's a privilege to have him donate money to our shelter and visit us. And for me it was a very big privilege since I got to know him and visit Neverland a few times and meet him at other places.
I can't understand why some want him to be this man who cheated and slept with everyone. He wasn't like that. And he did say it wasn't true about those going on TV. You were not in that room and could see how upset he was about it. And if he now had one woman that he loved and adored, is it so wrong? He did flirt a lot, doesn't mean he cheated.
He would never treat a woman like that. And I'm not naive when I say that, I draw that conclusion after spending lots of time with and around him, and from his own words. He respected women very much. I know as everyone that he kept seeing LMP and still being married to Debbie. He had his explanation for that and I buy it.
thx for this but what is lsa?
but what is LSA?
lipstick alley? What is that then? sorry stil confused
but what is LSA?
Lipstickalley
www.lipstickalley.com/f227/
They have a Michael Jackson sub-forum there. Members of lipstickalley are mostly females who are more interested in Michael's love life and/or sex life.
In my post I said as far as I can remember, but it's also possible that Michael went to a second rehab place prior to staying at Elton's house. He did stay there around that time.
In theory someone can enter a rehab place, detox etc. and then continue treatment elsewhere.
I don't know why people are nit picking so much, trying to find any turn of phrase to catch Frank out, I'm talking in general now.
In terms of trust and people trying to prove that Michael couldn't have been that close to Frank. Do you all tell everybody that you are close to the exact same story, or do you maybe leave bits out either intentionally or otherwise? Do you repeat an incident in your life years later the exact same way as you would have done then?
For all those years the Cascio's have been loyal to Michael, does that count for nothing here? At least they have attempted to defend their friend which more than Diana Ross has ever tried to do, and yet people will list her as who we could truely trust. I am not suggesting that that alone should make anyone pro the book, if you don't like the idea of it, that is your choice, but it should be enough to be fair minded and not twist and mis-quote.
Lipstickalley
www.lipstickalley.com/f227/
They have a Michael Jackson sub-forum there. Members of lipstickalley are mostly females who are more interested in Michael's love life and/or sex life.
love is magical;3543480 said:Why not? Why is it so strange that Michael could have gone through rehab in Elton John’s private estate? We are talking about Michael Jackson here. In Michael’s world, nothing is impossible. If he wanted, he could have built a rehab in a private residence without any major problem. To me, it actually makes better sense that he stayed in a private estate and had the counselors and medical staff visited him and given him therapies in his own privacy. It’s actually less complicated than having the entire actual rehab facility closed just for him.
Keep in mind. Frank was only 12 or 13 by that time. He was told that Michael was trying to get better and recovering in London. He might not have any idea what the location really was. Or, he’s not told the details.
If Michael Jackson coukd have propofol administered to him in a home setting.. he could have ANYTHING in a home setting, even rehab..
Michael had a zoo in a home setting!!! Enough said