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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

Doesn't anyone find it sad that Frank's mother was with Michael for the birth of his children and his own mother wasn't? I guess you hear and read these important moments in Michael's life and yet you hardly hear about his own family being there. Unless he mentioned Katherine but I don't know since I have not read thebook.

In the long run does this book change anything? With the general public? They are the ones that need to see the truth about Michael. For most fans they do get Michael but I know I am tired of hearing any negativity about Michael and want to focus on the positive. I feel emotionally drained right now. People are writing books and I am wondering if there are other ways to show the world how great Michael was and how misunderstood he was.
 
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hey do to me too. I mean, owe are still talking 23 chromosomes. right?

Ivy, we knew about Debbie. The fact that some choose to define her as a surrogate is not like disputing her maternity.
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Excatly! If blanket's mother wanted to come out & say she is his mother it would be a different story but cuz she hasnt frank has no right to talk bout her
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

to line Frank up with other people that Michael associated with like Klien is rediculous.. Michael and Klien had more so a working relatioship that may have leaked a little pass that.. Now Frank who was basically family to Michael since the age of 4 years old, traveled around the world with him, lived with him for portions of his life... Someone that Michael mentored and loved.. Those are two COMPLETE different scenario! And a little add in Frank did not say Michael liked pot.. he said he tried it on two occasions..​
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The point was MJ considered people like Klein friends too that turned around and said to much after he passed. MJ hung with Klein so much so that he let his kids around him alot and confided things to him unfortunetly and spend time with him like X-mas and brought the kids with him. So obviously he thought of Klein and others as close friends too. Others more then most were consider a little more then freinds but, in the end he felt all the poeple I mentioned were his friends and let his kids around them. By the way let's not forget Frank relationship with MJ became a working one too eventually but, so what?

Also If u don't like pot the first time why even try it a second time? And my point for bringing the pot story up was not to argue whether if it is a weaker drug then others but, to say that it isn't smart to say someone doesn't or didn't do drugs or a drug for recreational reasons and then turn around and say they did pot twice and it wasn't even for medical reasons but, because one of his musican friends said he wrote his best songs that way. Get it me now? I could care less if MJ was doin pot at times?! I think Propofol and Demoral are far more serious and the fact that he said he had to hide ish from MJ just incase. So my point and concern is that if the aim was to clear up many of the misconceptions especially to the public then IMO he failed in many areas.
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

bluetopez said:
The point was MJ considered people like Klein friends too that turned around and said to much after he passed. MJ hung with Klein so much so that he let his kids around him alot and confided things to him unfortunetly and spend time with him like X-mas and brought the kids with him. So obviously he thought of Klein and others as close friends too. Others more then most were consider a little more then freinds but, in the end he felt all the poeple I mentioned were his friends and let his kids around them. By the way let's not forget Frank relationship with MJ became a working one too eventually but, so what?

Also If u don't like pot the first time why even try it a second time? And my point for bringing the pot story up was not to argue whether if it is a weaker drug then others but, to say that it isn't smart to say someone doesn't or didn't do drugs or a drug for recreational reasons and then turn around and say they did pot twice and it wasn't even for medical reasons but, because one of his musican friends said he wrote his best songs that way. Get it me now? I could care less if MJ was doin pot at times?! I think Propofol and Demoral are far more serious and the fact that he said he had to hide ish from MJ just incase. So my point and concern is that if the aim was to clear up many of the misconceptions especially to the public then IMO he failed in many areas.
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Oh come on now. You can try something you don't like more than once.

I hate pot...I CANNOT STAND the smell. Drives me crazy. But I have smoked it exactly twice. When you are in the moment, you can do things you hate..just for the fun of it.

Obviously, MJ didn't like it enough to use it before it rotted. I wish MJ had used pot for sleep..or maybe he did.

marebear said:
Doesn't anyone find it sad that Frank's mother was with Michael for the birth of his children and his own mother wasn't? I guess you hear and read these important moments in Michael's life and yet you hardly hear about his own family being there. Unless he mentioned Katherine but I don't know since I have not read thebook.

In the long run does this book change anything? With the general public? They are the ones that need to see the truth about Michael. For most fans they do get Michael but I know I am tired of hearing any negativity about Michael and want to focus on the positive. I feel emotionally drained right now. People are writing books and I am wondering if there are other ways to show the world how great Michael was and how misunderstood he was.
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I do. Very much so. Since he didn't have a wife, you'd think the next best thing would be his own mother.

I feel so sad for MJ. Sometimes, it's hard for me to wrap my head around everything that went wrong in his life. When I was little, I thought he had the most magical life. I used to envy all these kids he had hanging around him.

Obviously, his life was filled with many highs and far too many lows.

He couldn't trust anyone, least of all, his flesh and blood. SMDH


I cant belive u just said that.....
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There's nothing wrong with smoking pot. He could have easily gotten a prescription and use it for its medicinal value. Legal.

FYI: I don't advocate smoking. But if I had a choice between Propofol/Murray vs Pot. I'd push for him to light it up.

Seems like Michael was not always honest with Frank or let's say omitted the truth and information. That's how much of a friend Frank was to him...
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I agree
I don't think MJ trusted him. For good reasons. Unlike the rest of his family.

I really get the impression, which is more or less confirmed by this book, that Frank Cascio has been a rogue character for a while.
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

I wish MJ had used pot for sleep..or maybe he did.
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:bugeyed I cant belive u just said that.....
 
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Justice_MJ said:
Seems like Michael was not always honest with Frank or let's say omitted the truth and information. That's how much of a friend Frank was to him...
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^^I was thinking the same thing. For some reason Michael did not see Frank as someone to bare his intimate details to, and based on what Frank did with this book, I do not blame Michael one bit.
 
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8701girl said:
:bugeyed I cant belive u just said that.....
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Really. Im glad she did and I agree with her. Although I dont smoke pot my BF
does he is prescribed legally for medical reasons. It helps ease his upset stomach,
helps him eat better and sleep much better. I doubt it worked for MJ chronic sleep
problems but he would be alive today if he only needed Pot to sleep.
 
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qbee said:
Really. Im glad she did and I agree with her. Although I dont smoke pot my BF
does he is prescribed legally for medical reasons. It helps ease his upset stomach,
helps him eat better and sleep much better. I doubt it worked for MJ chronic sleep
problems but he would be alive today if he only needed Pot to sleep.
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I always assumed pot was bad for ppl to use
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

A person not revealing all or most intimate feeling or moments of their life to someone doesn't mean they dont have a close friendship with that person. I dont think Michael shared his most intimate feelings or fears with anyone except for Maybe Elizabeth Taylor. In fact he said he did share most everything with her. Most men find it easier to open up and discuss intimate feelings or problems with women friends than with men. Just sayin - That doesnt show or mean he didnt consider frank a close friend. Could be he just didnt feel comfortable discussing everything.

I dont reveal everything to my close friends and it certainly doens't mean I dont care about them or dont trust them. For the most part I just dont like to burden people with all my probs or share intimate feelings that are personal to me. I have ONE person that I can feel comfortable sharing details or personal things with and thats only one of my sisters. I dont like anyone knowing why, how or when I do everything or what my personal thoughts are about everything. I would asume most people are like that. No one needs to know everything. And I will say once I die i could care less what people reveal what they know about me becuase i dont have any deep dark sinister secrets to hide either.
 
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8701girl said:
I always assumed pot was bad for ppl to use
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I can be bad for some people who abuse it. But it also is known to have very good medicinal properties
That are much safer than pain meds and not addictive as pain meds and physc meds . Thats why its
legal to prescribe medically in several states.
 
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qbee said:
A person not revealing all or most intimate feeling or moments of their life to someone doesn't mean they dont have a close friendship with that person. I dont think Michael shared his most intimate feelings or fears with anyone except for Maybe Elizabeth Taylor. In fact he said he did share most everything with her. Most men find it easier to open up and discuss intimate feelings or problems with women friends than with men. Just sayin - That doesnt show or mean he didnt consider frank a close friend. Could be he just didnt feel comfortable discussing everything. I dont reveal everything to my close friends.
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Oh come on Qbees, you can't possibly believe that.

He was friends with them for 20+ years..not 1 or years.

You might not reveal to the person you had committed murder, but you will share these type of information with true friends. Especially guys...These weren't earth shattering information.

MJ said Elizabeth Taylor knew all his secrets, so I take it he was able to share his most intimate info to those FEW he truly trusted.

Also, Elizabeth Taylor said she is the only person in MJ's life who's never betrayed him...I think MJ was very selective about who he shared his inner thoughts with.
 
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Memefan said:
Oh come on Qbees, you can't possibly believe that.

He was friends with them for 20+ years..not 1 or years.

You might not reveal to the person you had committed murder, but you will share these type of information with true friends. Especially guys...These weren't earth shattering information.

MJ said Elizabeth Taylor knew all his secrets, so I take it he was able to share his most intimate info to those FEW he truly trusted.

Also, Elizabeth Taylor said she is the only person in MJ's life who's never betrayed him...I think MJ was very selective about who he shared his inner thoughts with.
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Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
 
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qbee said:
Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
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Sorry. I misread your previous post to mean it's common for close friends not to share this kind of info.

Close friends would know who you are dating. Unless she's a married woman.... lol
 
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qbee said:
Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
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Yes, I have to agree with qbee. I myself also didn't like to share my personal feeling maybe only to my mom not even my sister. I still didn't tell everything to my mom. It's just feel weird to share everything. I also had some close friends since high school. I talked to them about lots of things but not everything. Sometimes, if something is too embarrassed for me to tell and they were eager to know. I would give some explanation and it might not represent what I really go through. They were my best friend but sometimes I just feel not easy to share everything. People like MJ having so many people approaching him with purpose. I can totally understand he didn't reveal everything. I don't think it means MJ is not close to Frank. Maybe they fallout after Frank worked for him. Maybe something happened to make MJ didn't trusted him as much as before. I do believe they were at least really close before Frank was working for him.
 
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missred07 said:
Yes, I have to agree with qbee. I myself also didn't like to share my personal feeling maybe only to my mom not even my sister. I still didn't tell everything to my mom. It's just feel weird to share everything. I also had some close friends since high school. I talked to them about lots of things but not everything. Sometimes, if something is too embarrassed for me to tell and they were eager to know. I would give some explanation and it might not represent what I really go through. They were my best friend but sometimes I just feel not easy to share everything. People like MJ having so many people approaching him with purpose. I can totally understand he didn't reveal everything. I don't think it means MJ is not close to Frank. Maybe they fallout after Frank worked for him. Maybe something happened to make MJ didn't trusted him as much as before. I do believe they were at least really close before Frank was working for him.
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qbee said:
Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
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A question for you two, this came to mind after reading both your posts:

1) Now, since you guys believe MJ didn't fully trust Frank with his personal information or wasn't always truthful with him, to safeguard his privacy, do YOU believe MJ would have approved of this book? Simple Yes or NO please.

2) If you answered NO, knowing MJ wouldn't approve, why do you embrace the book?


3) If you answered yes, would you consider Ian Halperin who "infiltrated" MJ's entourage for x number of months, to be an accurate & reliable book?
 
Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

I don't interperate from the book a real "fallout".. there was argument, and someone sent a FAKE letter that Michael did not approve that caused a dis connect.. if Frank never recieved that letter than the seperation that happened would not have been the way it was..

When I did read that though!! I thought of Michaels (WILL)!!! does anyone see why I would?
 
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^^^haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
 
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Memefan said:
A question for you two, this came to mind after reading both your posts:

1) Now, since you guys believe MJ didn't fully trust Frank with his personal information or wasn't always truthful with him, to safeguard his privacy, do YOU believe MJ would have approved of this book? Simple Yes or NO please.
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I am sorry I can't simple answer yes or no. Because I don't know the answer.

I don't know whether MJ "didn't trust" Frank with his personal information or just "didn't trust" "anyone" (Like Katherine said), or just simply don't like to share. I used the word maybe because I kind of think MJ can't trust anyone who get involved with his business. It's only my point of view. When he was alive, I think he won't approve the book since I don't think MJ like people around him just go out to talk any of his business. When he was passed away, would he allow people around him to write a book? I don't know. Like I said before, it's clearly that MJ knew people around him would write or talk about him for years for whatever reasons. He said something like he knew people would asked his kids what kind of father he was.


Memefan said:
2) If you answered NO, knowing MJ wouldn't approve, why do you embrace the book?
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The thing is I am not embrace the book (I am not so sure I understand the use of embrace here since I am not native speaker). I do think it's the best one I read so far between Jermaine, LaToya, and all those friend/ family book. It doesn't mean I am embracing the book (does you mean pro-this book?). Like I stated multiple times, I think Frank's book is just an reference, a source to know MJ. Just like I would also read Jermaine's, LaToya's, Katherine's and Jermaine's ex's info to see what they want to said. Frank told his side of story and he was actually there for years to see lots of thing. His view might be limited. His interpretation might be wrong. He might not unfold everything. However, I still think his book is value information. We can combine his info together with others and might have a better pictures (not the whole picture though). People can judge whatever they want using their brain.

Memefan said:
3) If you answered yes, would you consider Ian Halperin who "infiltrated" MJ's entourage for x number of months, to be an accurate & reliable book?
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Lots of Ian's stories are way crazy for me to believe it. Maybe someone do? I don't know. Lots of the story he told just totally make no sense to me.
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

^ yeah...embrace means supportive, accepting of the book.
 
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Memefan said:
^ yeah...embrace means supportive, accepting of the book.
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ok, however I don't think supportive equal to accepting. I said before, I was on the fence at beginning. I felt like I am invading MJ's privacy. I didn't buy the book. My mother got me the copy, then I decided to read what Frank wanted to say. Although I am so pissed of for his interview and all the bad news because of the book. I want to read the full content. I don't want to just came here and said I don't like this and that and people question me did you read the full content? However, after I read the book, I did change lots of my opinion toward Frank. I think people should really go to read the full content than question him (Like I stated multiple time, I still have some questions toward him). As I said before, I totally don't mind people have different opinions about the things he shared as long as people don't judge him base on twisted content. Everyone have their own perspective and their own opinion.

Am I accepting people writing book about MJ. I really don't know the answer yet. Sometime I felt people should just shut up and let the man rest in peace. Sometimes I hope that his friend should stand out to share the man they knew. and hope maybe one day the public can see the truth. For Frank's book, after I reading it, I do became more and more admire Mj's strength. As I stated multiple times, I don't know what he can achieve with this book and the damage he caused is hard to repair.

Am I pro-this book. I think people should read it and judge themselves, if they wanted to know the topics Frank shared. However, I never said go buy the book. If you like it after you read it and appreciate his effort to put together a book, go buy it. If you don't want to give him a dime, fine.
 
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^ thanks for that input missred07..

and I appreciate the fact that you read it to create your opinion
 
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LastTear said:
Somebody can correct me if my memory is mistaken but as far as i can remember when Michael left the first rehab centre he moved into Elton Johns house. I believe his treatment did carry on there. It is entirely possible that the Cascios visited him there. It is because Elton reached out to him and gave him the use of his house is why Michael was so grateful to Elton.
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Interesting. Frank doesn't refer to it as "Elton John's house". He says "Elton stepped in and coordinated Michael's transfer to another rehab place - a private estate outside London that was much more Michael's speed." This was after MJ (according to Frank) tried to escape from the first rehab place lol. Frank also says Michael asked them to visit him in the second "rehab". How does one go through rehab in a private estate and not an actual rehab facility? Things just don't add up with this.
 
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Re: Frank Cascio "My Friend Michael" book release date Nov 15 ,2011 / Excerpt posted at @pg151

What's the best recent MJ book to buy?
 
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qbee said:
Actually I agree with you and I dont think i stated much different _ Im just saying it doesnt mean Frank wasnt a close friend. Maybe MJ didnt feel he could trust him to share everything for whatever reason. Just like I said i dont share many things even with my own sisters but that doesnt mean they didnt have a close caring relationship.
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I don't find it surprising that Michael wouldn't necessarily share every last detail with someone whom he practically knew since he was a little boy. Don't find that very surprising.
I'm extremely selective in that aspect myself, it's not so much a trust issue, as personality preference. Some people are talkers in that aspect, other people are not.

What can you say- Michael, the virgo. (zodiac) Virgo men are kinda like that. My brother's a virgo artist- he loves telling me things 'after the fact', after he dealt with stuff. You gotta learn to take virgo men the way they are... it's somewhat of a trait.
 
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@missred i agree with you im gonna read it too. Then judge. I just ordered it.

Also can someone who listen to the new interview qbee linked here give a summ??
 
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qbee said:
New Interview - new stories so funny Frank seems more relaxed here http://t.co/rdQu523s
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Yes this was a good one for sure. The second interview I've heard that focuses on the allegations and clearing that up. And then his humor. He also did an interview on MJstar. com put I don't know how to put the video on here? It's an actual video of him doing an interview with someone asking questions and from what I remember it's focus was more about MJs humor and what he was like as a person/friend?
 
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