Katherine & MJ's kids sue AEG / Trial date April 2, 2013

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so thats the famous intervention the family always talk about. now tunya and co are changing their story.

Apparently there's a Vegas intervention but it didn't happen at the gate crashing event.
 
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Why Janet and Jermaine had filed objections to Taunya's deposition? Is there something they don't want Taunya to tell?
 
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Apparently there's a Vegas intervention but it didn't happen at the gate crashing event.

I'd imagine it's the one where they all showed up to ask him to tour with them. Has Leonard Rowe been subpoenaed?
 
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I'd imagine it's the one where they all showed up to ask him to tour with them. Has Leonard Rowe been subpoenaed?


yep! that's the one... the one in which Leonard Rowe was present and said Janet was so livid MJ refused to tour with them that she walked out angry. I bet she doesn't want to give a deposition.. All of her lies will be exposed
 
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nice to see AEG going after randy and his GF.at least they are getting abit of their own medicine

Yep, sort of explains why Randy mentioned AEG in his letter to The Estate of Michael Jackson.

He was "trying" to make it seem like AEG was being too aggressive with Mother, when it would appear that AEG is being VERY AGGRESSIVE with Randy Jackson and his girlfriend. LOL!

AEG is going to look under every rock, did Randy and Company just expect AEG to cut them a large check, no questions asked.

Aside from his Estate problem, Randy's anger is also fueled by AEG's tough tactics. No wonder his behind is SO mad. LOL!
 
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Update:

AEG has to filed a motion to compel Taunya Zilkie. Taunya has been deposed for 5 hours on May 16 but her lawyer had 360 objections and Taunya refused to answer many questions. Currently Taunya is refusing to continue her deposition. She didn't also provide some documents such as copies of emails about Michael etc, even though she was requested. AEG is asking the judge to order her to sit down for the continuance of her deposition, order her to answer questions and make her pay monetary sanctions at least $20,000.

Summary of the motion

- AEG lawyers say Taunya has publicly declared them guilty of Michael's death - AEG has copies of tweets of Taunya dated February 2011.
- Taunya twice failed to appear for her deposition (on April 10 and May 1), finally her deposition started on May 16.
- Taunya's lawyer asked AEG to provide the list of the all of the questions they plan to ask. AEG didn't send a list as they say they aren't required to do so for third party witnesses.
- Taunya met Randy in 1997.
- Taunya worked for Michael between 2003 and 2005 as an assistant and website manager. Randy had hired her for the job. Taunya did not have any personal interaction with Michael after 2005.
- She worked for Randy as an assistant between 2005 and 2009.
- Taunya worked on organizing Michael's memorial.
- Taunya is also friends with Karen Faye, represented Karen during her work at TII tour and was present at Karen's interview with the police in December 2009. Taunya and Karen first met in 2004. Taunya later handled Karen Faye's bookings and billing etc.
- Randy , Janet and Jermaine had filed objections to Taunya's deposition.
- AEG says they still need to as Taunya about her tweets and her accusations about them, they need to ask her about Michael's finances especially his business deals with Randy and her relations with Jackson family.
- AEG says they are collecting information about Michael's finances so they can address and rebut Katherine's damages claims.
- AEG is asking about Taunya's relationship with Randy and Jacksons to see whether Taunya is biased or subject to influence.
- AEG is stating if Taunya is concerned about public disclosure of her testimony she can use the protective order in place.

Partial deposition of Taunya is included in the motion to demonstrate the objections by her lawyer and the questions she did not answer. From the deposition we learn

- Randy Jackson was present during Taunya's deposition.

- Taunya was represented by Baker & Hostetler --- it's the same firm mentioned in the Jackson siblings letter against the Executors. Taunya says they are representing Randy Jackson in general business matters for the last 9 to 12 months. When asked if Randy is paying her lawyer fees Taunya doesn't answer.

- There had been a phone call and meeting that involved Taunya , Randy and the lawyer from Baker &Hostetler one day before the deposition. This is the first time Taunya has talked and met with the lawyer. AEG asks questions about the meeting but cannot get any answers. The lawyer claims "joint attorney- client privilege" , AEG disagrees and says Randy is a third-person and privilege cannot be claimed and Randy is represented by Panish & Boyle law firm in this lawsuit.


- Vegas event. Taunya says she and Randy went to see Michael for a business matter. Bodyguards did not open the gate so they waited until someone came in and they drove right behind them and parked at the front door and asked to see Michael. Bodyguards did not allow it, according to Taunya they were "belligerent and aggressive". Randy later called Joe Jackson who came and was upset that the bodyguards was coming between brothers. Taunya says they wanted to leave but bodyguards was blocking their way. They let them out a few hours later. Taunya is asked about to explain the "business matter" they went to see Michael for, she replies "it was a financial matter". She makes it clear that visit was not an intervention attempt. AEG asks "is it about Michael Jackson owing Randy Jackson money?" Taunya refuses to answer.

- Taunya is asked for documents covering communications about Michael, Jacksons, This is it tour, Murray, intervention staged by Randy Jackson in Neveda (Taunya mentioned it to ABC News). She had produced 58 pages. However during her deposition she mentions that she did not look through her emails about Michael or TII tour etc as well as business documents. AEG is arguing that she didn't provide all the documents for their requests. Taunya got copies of Karen's emails - at least between Karen Faye and Frank Dileo - but she didn't produce them saying they are Karen's emails and not hers. Taunya also has emails between her and Karen, Grace, Evvy, Micheal Bush and Kerry Anderson.

- AEG has tried to ask about an event Karen mentioned Taunya about a situation with a Lloyds of London attorney at a prior tour which might be about Michael's health. They can't get any response.

- During Karen's police interview Taunya tells the cops to talk to Kerry Anderson to have a broader idea about enabling Michael's drug use. Kerry is Michael's head of security from 2004 and went to Bahrain with Michael. Some parts of this is redacted. As far as I can tell Taunya is mentioning a call from Terry in which he says Grace and Carol Lamere being a negative influence and he confiscated drugs from Carol and he was worried about Michael in general. Taunya says her understanding is that Carol was giving drugs to Grace who gave them to Michael.

- Taunya says from Randy she heard about a number of occasions family has tried to stage interventions. She doesn't know how many interventions were there. She says she only has specific knowledge of Vegas intervention.


Hearing on the motion to compel is set for November 28.

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Can I post that on IMDB?
 
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Apparently there's a Vegas intervention but it didn't happen at the gate crashing event.

the one mentioned by tunya always gets mentioned as an intervention though?the crashing through the gates and tunya etc been there. Thats been talked about alot. same thing ad with the kids now waiting for a car to go in then following

i guess randy was the source for the stories about grace and drugs in bahrain. i doubt kerry would leak it if infact he did say that
 
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Yep, sort of explains why Randy mentioned AEG in his letter to The Estate of Michael Jackson.

He was "trying" to make it seem like AEG was being too aggressive with Mother, when it would appear that AEG is being VERY AGGRESSIVE with Randy Jackson and his girlfriend. LOL!

AEG is going to look under every rock, did Randy and Company just expect AEG to cut them a large check, no questions asked.

Aside from his Estate problem, Randy's anger is also fueled by AEG's tough tactics. No wonder his behind is SO mad. LOL!

They probably thought AEG would settle, wouldn't want any bad publicity.
 
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Apparently there's a Vegas intervention but it didn't happen at the gate crashing event.

But in that interview she said it was an intervention

" Taunya Zilkie, Randy Jackson's public relations representative, says she was with him that day. She told ABC News that she and Jackson were at the Las Vegas house that day but never made it on to the property. And Zilkie denied that a gun was pulled.

Zilkie said ABC News Randy Jackson went to Jackson's home that day for an "intervention" but was refused entry into the house."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJa...amily-finances/story?id=10052695#.UDYs3KOi8is
 
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I remember that, and always figured that the LATE FEE of $81,946.08 was Randy Jackson's cut for supporting Stabler's claim.

@elusive, honey I also remember all of those stories, and would wonder to myself: "Who the heck is making up all of those stories, especially the ones Roger Friedman was reporting (almost on a daily basis)."

It WAS Randy Jackson, in my opinion, all of that time, it was Randy Jackson!

I bet that's why he and Janet were filming the children that day they stormed the children's home. They were most likely trying to record something they could sell to Randy's favorite online gossip site. Only to be played and recorded themselves. LOL! Love that part of the story.

I would also go so far as to say that when folks wondered if Randy had a job or not. I guess the answer is "yes, he did have a job, the job of SELLING made-up stories about his brother Michael."

Randy "The Snake" Jackson! It's all out in the open now homie.
 
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Randy has been a snake in the grass for quite some time.. No wonder he goes to Forest Lawn a lot.. he's begging for forgiveness.. He knows what he did to MJ
 
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I remember that, and always figured that the LATE FEE of $81,946.08 was Randy Jackson's cut for supporting Stabler's claim.

@elusive, honey I also remember all of those stories, and would wonder to myself: "Who the heck is making up all of those stories, especially the ones Roger Friedman was reporting (almost on a daily basis)."

It WAS Randy Jackson, in my opinion, all of that time, it was Randy Jackson!

I'm pretty sure it was either Taunya or another associate on behalf of Randy's. Roger Friedman said it was a friend of the family, not a family member. Plausible deniability. So if it blew up, he could act like it wasn't him. Same way how Janet made sure she was on a cruise with her boyfriend on the Italian riviera as her mother was abducted away.

Does he go to Forrest Lawn a lot? He only goes when there's cameras.
 
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I'm pretty sure it was either Taunya or another associate on behalf of Randy's. Roger Friedman said it was a friend of the family, not a family member. Plausible deniability. So if it blew up, he could act like it wasn't him. Same way how Janet made sure she was on a cruise with her boyfriend on the Italian riviera as her mother was abducted away.

Does he go to Forrest Lawn a lot? He only goes when there's cameras.

Yes, camera for X17
 
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- During Karen's police interview Taunya tells the cops to talk to Kerry Anderson to have a broader idea about enabling Michael's drug use. Kerry is Michael's head of security from 2004 and went to Bahrain with Michael. Some parts of this is redacted. As far as I can tell Taunya is mentioning a call from Terry in which he says Grace and Carol Lamere being a negative influence and he confiscated drugs from Carol and he was worried about Michael in general. Taunya says her understanding is that Carol was giving drugs to Grace who gave them to Michael.

Grace gave drugs to Michael? Is that true? I didn't know that...

And who is Carol Lamere?
 
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She worked for MJ during the nineties and she knew the Arvizos before he met them, and she had very damaging things to say about them.
 
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Has anyone who has been deposed said that they saw Michael directly under the influence of 'drugs'? Admittedly I have not read the whole thread but it seems to me that everybody is going by what others have said and alleged.

And it will be interesting to know if Michael's children are aware that a suit in their name is calling her father a drug addict. An assertion that Paris, in particular, has denied.
 
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Grace gave drugs to Michael? Is that true? I didn't know that...

And who is Carol Lamere?

Randy has been saying this via his tabloid leakers since Mike was alive. Not sure which drugs he thinks Grace was giving him considering he wasn't taking anything given by her when he died...?

During the raid in 2003 they found a drug in Grace's husband's name, Prednisone, a drug to treat lupus, which Grace also suffers from. That's as far as I've ever seen.
 
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Really interesting update on the aeg depositions, thanks ivy. I think we're getting a glimpse into the context of spagate, there seems alot of pressure on the family right now with these depostions. What they thought would bring in a huge payday is turning into one big mess for them, with all sorts of stuff they'd rather keep underwraps coming out. And it's all down to randy pushing the family into it.

AEG says they still need to ask Taunya about her tweets and her accusations about them, they need to ask her about Michael's finances especially his business deals with Randy and her relations with Jackson family.
- AEG says they are collecting information about Michael's finances so they can address and rebut Katherine's damages claims.

I just know randy will be keen to talk about all his business dealings with mj.

Re the intervention of crashing through the gates, reebie appropriated that particular incident to herself during her 'mj was a hopeless drug addict' interview tour to promote gest's documentary, helpfully timed to coincide with jury deliberations of her brother's murderer's trial where the only defence was that mj was a hopeless drug addict. Either the need to smash through security gates is a genetic trait shared by a few of the jackson siblings, or they are just congenital liars.
 
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But in that interview she said it was an intervention

now she says it wasn't an intervention and they were there for a financial business matter. see below

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Grace gave drugs to Michael? Is that true? I didn't know that...

It's not definitive. It seems Kerry suspected Carol was giving drugs to Grace who then gave it to Michael and confiscated drugs from Carol. That's what Taunya understood and is kinda speculating. There's no information about what the drugs were, whether it was one time event or not. The only "fact" is that he confiscated unknown drugs from Carol, the rest is speculation.
 
If Anderson had any real knowledge of MJ's drug use why wasn't he listed as à defense witness. In August 2009, the defense gave à list of witness like Neil Ratner,La Perruque, son why not him and Carol.
 
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If Anderson had any real knowledge of MJ's drug use why wasn't he listed as à defense witness. In August 2009, the defense gave à list of witness like Neil Ratner,La Perruque, son why not him and Carol.

are you asking why Murray's defense didn't include him? Who cares at this point, it's not like Judge Pastor would have allowed it. And also as I said the type of drugs is unknown and his action is a worry / suspicion. So his knowledge might be limited to that, might not be conclusive and so on.
 
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How come Randy was allowed at her deposition?
 
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Randy, Randy, Randy!

Did he conduct his own deposition yet, anybody know?

Man, I bet the depositions that have been conducted thus far are jam packed with little gems and other things we "thought" in the past but could never really confirm.

Again I say, no wonder Randy is so steaming mad.
 
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How come Randy was allowed at her deposition?

hmm give me a minute

yeah sorry it's my mistake

Correction : Randy Jackson was not present at the deposition , his lawyer who also represented Katherine and plaintiffs was.

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are you asking why Murray's defense didn't include him? Who cares at this point, it's not like Judge Pastor would have allowed it. And also as I said the type of drugs is unknown and his action is a worry / suspicion. So his knowledge might be limited to that, might not be conclusive and so on.

Yes, it's my point. I don't believe he had real knowledge of that and he probably never claimed that. Do you know If he is a potential witness?
 
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Thanks Ivy, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it just seems odd that as an interested party he can be privy to all the questions and answers, but I guess his GF could just tell him all that was said afterwards anyway.

*edit* I guess Randy wanted to direct via the attorney what questions he would allow her to answer.

Another edit

Ignore the above. Lol
 
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The Jacksons think they are this big powerful family and that sueing AEG would scare them. They are not going to throw Michael under the bus but the whole Jackson family too. I wish this was about justice for Michael but this is about greed. I don't like how Michael will get dragged through the mud by his own family as well but his legacy is strong and will survive this. I hope the Jacksons lose because greed should not be rewarded.
 
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Thanks Ivy, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it just seems odd that as an interested party he can be privy to all the questions and answers, but I guess his GF could just tell him all that was said afterwards anyway.

*edit* I guess Randy wanted to direct via the attorney what questions he would allow her to answer.

Another edit

Ignore the above. Lol

thanks for pointing it out. I checked it after your question and it was my mistake. Randy's lawyer who also represents Katherine & plaintiffs were present at the deposition - not Randy.
 
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thanks for pointing it out. I checked it after your question and it was my mistake. Randy's lawyer who also represents Katherine & plaintiffs were present at the deposition - not Randy.

Thanks Ivy, easily done given how that is worded.
 
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