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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
Since they are talking about Weitzman in this mess also, that's all the more reason that he could sue and show that these reports are false in the process. If he can't sue for Michael, he could at least sue for himself.
Since they are talking about Weitzman in this mess also, that's all the more reason that he could sue and show that these reports are false in the process. If he can't sue for Michael, he could at least sue for himself.
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
That is because we love MJ more.
That is because we love MJ more.
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Thank You!.. TMZ hasn't even posted this crap because they know the source of it. In fact Harvey Levin back in 2009 was one of the first to post the real FBI files from MJ and said that there were a lot of things 'unfounded'. They even talked to Jermaine who said he wishes the FBI would've said this when Mike was still living. They investigated MJ for 15 years and found absolutely nothing, no evidence, no child porn nothing. Why can't these reporters read those files?
Thank You!.. TMZ hasn't even posted this crap because they know the source of it. In fact Harvey Levin back in 2009 was one of the first to post the real FBI files from MJ and said that there were a lot of things 'unfounded'. They even talked to Jermaine who said he wishes the FBI would've said this when Mike was still living. They investigated MJ for 15 years and found absolutely nothing, no evidence, no child porn nothing. Why can't these reporters read those files?
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What information on FBI files is true then?Why Mirror and all the press didnt release this on their newspaper's cover huh?
FBI investigated Michael Jackson for 10 years
Last Updated: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 | 5:22 PM ET
CBC News
Police in the southern California city where pop star Michael Jackson stood trial on child molestation charges called in the FBI because they feared he might become a terrorist target.
The Santa Maria police were afraid the court case would be a "soft target" for terrorism, according to documents released by the FBI on Tuesday after a freedom of information request.
Federal agents had been looking into Jackson's alleged involvement with young boys for nearly 10 years before that 2003 arrest, the documents show.
They also had looked into death threats against Jackson by a man obsessed with his sister, Janet, as far back as 1992.
The FBI released 333 pages of documents related to the late pop singer on Tuesday that date from 1992 to 2005.
At the molestation trial, FBI eventually concluded there was little risk of terrorism, although they noticed that a Nation of Islam follower and New Black Panther Party member, both unnamed in the files released, sat in the gallery in the early part of the trial. Jackson was eventually acquitted of all charges.
The files show FBI had been tipped off by their London, England, office in 1993 of an alleged inappropriate involvement between Jackson and an underaged male. Over the next 10 years, they made several investigations of the pop star, none of which led to charges.
Death threats against Jackson, president
Federal investigators assisted Santa Maria police in combing through computers at Neverland, Jackson's California home, in the molestation case. They also helped customs officials investigate a video suspected to be child pornography.
Neither of those investigations yielded substantive evidence, according to the documents.
FBI also interviewed two former Neverland employees in the Philippines over allegations of Jackson fondling young boys.
But the files released Tuesday contain no major revelations about Jackson's private life and the bureau apparently never developed any solid evidence against him.
They did include death threats against Jackson, then President George H. W. Bush and mob boss John Gotti by Frank Paul Jones, who allegedly was obsessed with Janet Jackson.
Jones was convicted in 1993 in relation to a letter that states: "I decided that because nobody is taking me serious, and I can't handle my state of mind, that I am going to Washington, D.C., to threaten to kill the president of the United States, George Bush."
The letter later says, "Michael [Jackson] I will personally attempt to kill, if he doesn't pay me my money."
Jones was arrested June 22, 1992, after trespassing in the driveway of the Jackson family compound in Encino, Calif.
Jackson, the singer known as the King of Pop, died June 25 at age 50. His death was ruled a homicide and police are still investigating.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/music/story/2009/12/22/fbi-jackson.html
What information on FBI files is true then?Why Mirror and all the press didnt release this on their newspaper's cover huh?
FBI investigated Michael Jackson for 10 years
Last Updated: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 | 5:22 PM ET
CBC News
Police in the southern California city where pop star Michael Jackson stood trial on child molestation charges called in the FBI because they feared he might become a terrorist target.
The Santa Maria police were afraid the court case would be a "soft target" for terrorism, according to documents released by the FBI on Tuesday after a freedom of information request.
Federal agents had been looking into Jackson's alleged involvement with young boys for nearly 10 years before that 2003 arrest, the documents show.
They also had looked into death threats against Jackson by a man obsessed with his sister, Janet, as far back as 1992.
The FBI released 333 pages of documents related to the late pop singer on Tuesday that date from 1992 to 2005.
At the molestation trial, FBI eventually concluded there was little risk of terrorism, although they noticed that a Nation of Islam follower and New Black Panther Party member, both unnamed in the files released, sat in the gallery in the early part of the trial. Jackson was eventually acquitted of all charges.
The files show FBI had been tipped off by their London, England, office in 1993 of an alleged inappropriate involvement between Jackson and an underaged male. Over the next 10 years, they made several investigations of the pop star, none of which led to charges.
Death threats against Jackson, president
Federal investigators assisted Santa Maria police in combing through computers at Neverland, Jackson's California home, in the molestation case. They also helped customs officials investigate a video suspected to be child pornography.
Neither of those investigations yielded substantive evidence, according to the documents.
FBI also interviewed two former Neverland employees in the Philippines over allegations of Jackson fondling young boys.
But the files released Tuesday contain no major revelations about Jackson's private life and the bureau apparently never developed any solid evidence against him.
They did include death threats against Jackson, then President George H. W. Bush and mob boss John Gotti by Frank Paul Jones, who allegedly was obsessed with Janet Jackson.
Jones was convicted in 1993 in relation to a letter that states: "I decided that because nobody is taking me serious, and I can't handle my state of mind, that I am going to Washington, D.C., to threaten to kill the president of the United States, George Bush."
The letter later says, "Michael [Jackson] I will personally attempt to kill, if he doesn't pay me my money."
Jones was arrested June 22, 1992, after trespassing in the driveway of the Jackson family compound in Encino, Calif.
Jackson, the singer known as the King of Pop, died June 25 at age 50. His death was ruled a homicide and police are still investigating.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/music/story/2009/12/22/fbi-jackson.html
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
I heard that crap in all the news and magazine programs in the morning here in Mexico and none of them made a comment on the Estate response and it wasn't the case with WR.
I heard that crap in all the news and magazine programs in the morning here in Mexico and none of them made a comment on the Estate response and it wasn't the case with WR.
Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
The "statement" from the estate is as weak as can be. Song lyrics and telling everyone to go see ONE. There are a million ways all of the Mirror stories could be factually debunked, they could at least remind people how Michael sued the Mirror in the early 90s for libel and eventually the publication had to concede its stories on him were inaccurate. Or link to the actual FBI documents released in 2009 and articles about them that prove Michael had no child porn and support his innocence. But instead they issued a meaningless statement IMHO.
The "statement" from the estate is as weak as can be. Song lyrics and telling everyone to go see ONE. There are a million ways all of the Mirror stories could be factually debunked, they could at least remind people how Michael sued the Mirror in the early 90s for libel and eventually the publication had to concede its stories on him were inaccurate. Or link to the actual FBI documents released in 2009 and articles about them that prove Michael had no child porn and support his innocence. But instead they issued a meaningless statement IMHO.
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Aside from the lies, manipulations and misrepresentations, there is another insidious aspect to these newspaper articles. They are implying that the major impetus to Paris's attempt on her life was the allegations against Michael (subtext: therefore they might be true) , and also they are starting to focus on all of the childrens' reactions to allegations against Michael.
There is a hint of it in the original 'Sunday People' article, where, 12 paragraphs in, the writer states:
'The files will also dismay J****'s kids Prince 16, Paris 15 and 11 year-old Blanket, who have not yet come to terms with losing their father. In fact Paris tried to kill herself by slashing her wrists just three weeks ago and is still in hospital. But there is yet more shocking news for the family - Jackson's former child pal Wade Robson.....etc etc..'
Today, another UK tabloid, the Daily Star (owned by Express newspapers, so 'unrelated' to Tritinity Mirrror Group, has run an extract of the 'Sunday People' story, with much more emphasis on the children as follows:
'Michael Jackson's heartbroken children face new turmoil after shock files claiming he abused 24 kids were exposed. FBI files alleging that J**** spent £23 million hushing up victims will devastate Prince 16, Paris 15 and Blanket 11.
The claims come just weeks after Paris attempted to kill herself following cruel Facebook taunts that her dad was a paedophile. Last night her uncle Jackie, 62, said she was 'getting better' as he attended a Las Vegas tribute to J****. But the family fear more upset over the shock claims by two of the superstar's servants (etc....)
The largest photo accompanying this article is of Prince at the Las Vegas MJOne event, described thus: 'Last night Prince was snapped looking relaxed with (his girlfriend).
jimmy.mccloskey@dailystar.co.uk
I fear that it will not be too long before the press will be hounding the children to elicit reactions, and the paps will be seeking photographic evidence of their 'emotional state' following any future adverse articles.
There is a hint of it in the original 'Sunday People' article, where, 12 paragraphs in, the writer states:
'The files will also dismay J****'s kids Prince 16, Paris 15 and 11 year-old Blanket, who have not yet come to terms with losing their father. In fact Paris tried to kill herself by slashing her wrists just three weeks ago and is still in hospital. But there is yet more shocking news for the family - Jackson's former child pal Wade Robson.....etc etc..'
Today, another UK tabloid, the Daily Star (owned by Express newspapers, so 'unrelated' to Tritinity Mirrror Group, has run an extract of the 'Sunday People' story, with much more emphasis on the children as follows:
'Michael Jackson's heartbroken children face new turmoil after shock files claiming he abused 24 kids were exposed. FBI files alleging that J**** spent £23 million hushing up victims will devastate Prince 16, Paris 15 and Blanket 11.
The claims come just weeks after Paris attempted to kill herself following cruel Facebook taunts that her dad was a paedophile. Last night her uncle Jackie, 62, said she was 'getting better' as he attended a Las Vegas tribute to J****. But the family fear more upset over the shock claims by two of the superstar's servants (etc....)
The largest photo accompanying this article is of Prince at the Las Vegas MJOne event, described thus: 'Last night Prince was snapped looking relaxed with (his girlfriend).
jimmy.mccloskey@dailystar.co.uk
I fear that it will not be too long before the press will be hounding the children to elicit reactions, and the paps will be seeking photographic evidence of their 'emotional state' following any future adverse articles.
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
yeah I don't get that... this mess can easily be debunked just by posting the orginal FBI files from 2009 and stating that this mess was from a tabloid reporter who is now dead and was debunked years ago
yeah I don't get that... this mess can easily be debunked just by posting the orginal FBI files from 2009 and stating that this mess was from a tabloid reporter who is now dead and was debunked years ago
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
Hard to believe? MJ has been acused of the worst crime know to man child molestation. I for one don't have that opinion but a lot of the public does. Just because we don't feel that way we won't ever be able to force people to change their opinions. If anything the wade issue makes it much worse. The estate has to be careful of what they say or do. Especially during this trial.
Hard to believe? MJ has been acused of the worst crime know to man child molestation. I for one don't have that opinion but a lot of the public does. Just because we don't feel that way we won't ever be able to force people to change their opinions. If anything the wade issue makes it much worse. The estate has to be careful of what they say or do. Especially during this trial.
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I was listening to T Joyner this morning, and he ask each one of his staff if they believe the story and each one said YES. I was done, it destroyed my day. I remember when CR trail ended, Tom Joyner said I didn't watch the trail, but I came away he fact that MJ had big time drug issues.
I was listening to T Joyner this morning, and he ask each one of his staff if they believe the story and each one said YES. I was done, it destroyed my day. I remember when CR trail ended, Tom Joyner said I didn't watch the trail, but I came away he fact that MJ had big time drug issues.
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I haven't read the previous posts so sorry if this has been posted before.
There is bbc documentary made in 2003/4 about the '93 accusations. You have the usual tripe form Diane Dimond and other pro prosecution people but it is really interesting regarding the media - they interviewed a lot of journalists that were involved in '93 and they basically admit to the buying of information. At one point one of them says that "..anyone involved in the MJ case knew that this could mean money for them.." and talked about all the maids and bodyguards going to the tabs .. Mary Fisher even shows a contract between the bodyguards and hard copy - hard copy paid them for their bullshit story. So much for Diane saying she never paid people for information.
Paul Baressi is in the documentary and says "..someone just needs to have a story a half truth and you mix it with a little venom and you have a tabloid story"
The really interesting thing is Paul Baressi talks about how he helped the LeMarque's shop a story about Mac - he admits that for £150k they would say MJ's hand was over the pants but for more money they would say MJ's hand was in the pants.
See 3:30 - 4:10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZny51B9sKs
He even says how they would talk to tabloids and say the most outlandish things but at the same time they would refuse to speak to the police.
There is bbc documentary made in 2003/4 about the '93 accusations. You have the usual tripe form Diane Dimond and other pro prosecution people but it is really interesting regarding the media - they interviewed a lot of journalists that were involved in '93 and they basically admit to the buying of information. At one point one of them says that "..anyone involved in the MJ case knew that this could mean money for them.." and talked about all the maids and bodyguards going to the tabs .. Mary Fisher even shows a contract between the bodyguards and hard copy - hard copy paid them for their bullshit story. So much for Diane saying she never paid people for information.
Paul Baressi is in the documentary and says "..someone just needs to have a story a half truth and you mix it with a little venom and you have a tabloid story"
The really interesting thing is Paul Baressi talks about how he helped the LeMarque's shop a story about Mac - he admits that for £150k they would say MJ's hand was over the pants but for more money they would say MJ's hand was in the pants.
See 3:30 - 4:10 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZny51B9sKs
He even says how they would talk to tabloids and say the most outlandish things but at the same time they would refuse to speak to the police.
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Well that's one piece of good news I've heard about it today.
Well that's one piece of good news I've heard about it today.
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
The mirror has shut their comments section down again along with the comments stating the facts.
What a
errin: surprise!
The mirror has shut their comments section down again along with the comments stating the facts.
What a
errin: surprise!terrell
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That is why we have to email them. Tom is willing to listen but I was angry just morning.
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
And alot of the public does not believe it. At this point, you either love MJ or not and i think more people love him than hate him but it is the haters who get the attention. During the trial, more people who I came in contact with supported Mj than against, and when he pass, my city was doing all kinds of celebrations and people were talking about it in the store and were sad.
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I'm glad to here that. Unfortunately here where I live in the USA the haters out number us quite a bit I'm afraid. In general people here take the tabloids for what they are trash. In the USA most of the people I come across sat where there's smoke there's fire. Unfortunate with MJ the media creates a ton of smoke.
I'm glad to here that. Unfortunately here where I live in the USA the haters out number us quite a bit I'm afraid. In general people here take the tabloids for what they are trash. In the USA most of the people I come across sat where there's smoke there's fire. Unfortunate with MJ the media creates a ton of smoke.
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Debbie Kunesh ?@Writinglady 36m TOM MESEREAU TO APPEAR ON ET THIS EVENING to discuss these latest tabloid stories about Michael Jackson. Please spread the word and tune in.
Debbie Kunesh ?@Writinglady 36m TOM MESEREAU TO APPEAR ON ET THIS EVENING to discuss these latest tabloid stories about Michael Jackson. Please spread the word and tune in.
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Re: [Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror
Well, I live in the United States in the South and the love for MJ out weight the haters.
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Re: FANS of MJ. EMIAL TOM JOYNER about MJ.
If Tom is willing to listen then he would not blow hot and cold every time some new drama comes up. Either he believes Michael was a child molesting drug addict or he does not.
If we keep having to preach our case to him, I have to think that he believes Michael is a child molesting drug addict and I have no time for him.
If Tom is willing to listen then he would not blow hot and cold every time some new drama comes up. Either he believes Michael was a child molesting drug addict or he does not.
If we keep having to preach our case to him, I have to think that he believes Michael is a child molesting drug addict and I have no time for him.
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This is another problem with these articles, in my opinion. Apparently, the FBI investigated Michael again and again for ten years. So there must not have been a problem with the statute of limitations because why would they investigate for all that time if the statute of limitations had expired? I think that all of the tabloid mess is based on the 1993 case. So I still say that if they really had all this proof of Michael paying off "victims" on top of everything else being claimed in those articles, they would have arrested him outright on federal charges anytime up to the end of 2003. Also, can't the tabloids get in trouble if they say that these are the real FBI files and they are fake?
This is another problem with these articles, in my opinion. Apparently, the FBI investigated Michael again and again for ten years. So there must not have been a problem with the statute of limitations because why would they investigate for all that time if the statute of limitations had expired? I think that all of the tabloid mess is based on the 1993 case. So I still say that if they really had all this proof of Michael paying off "victims" on top of everything else being claimed in those articles, they would have arrested him outright on federal charges anytime up to the end of 2003. Also, can't the tabloids get in trouble if they say that these are the real FBI files and they are fake?
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^^^^YAY, Tom will smash those disgusting tabloid reports! :woohoo: I hope he's invited in the mainstream media news shows. *crossed fingers*
^^^^YAY, Tom will smash those disgusting tabloid reports! :woohoo: I hope he's invited in the mainstream media news shows. *crossed fingers*