Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
I just spent two hours "debating" with a hater, it just feels like a waste of time because I know nothing I say makes any difference. I was watching a completely unrelated video and the top comment was this person bashing MJ
It's obvious he just read the prosecution's documents and took them as truth. He claimed MJ had tons of nude pictures and pornographic material of children, that there were 12 witnesses who saw him abuse children and one of them passed two lie detector tests, that MJ had porn scattered everywhere to groom children (except the child porn, which he kept locked away), that he fits the classic profile of a pedophile, that he's just like Jimmy Savile, etc. It's so frustrating that so many people apparently believe this, and the fact that he says he has "court documents" to prove it makes him sound more credible even though we all know the claims in those documents are BS and disproven in court. Wade will give these people even more ammunition. It's so unfair.
It's not even what those prosecution/court documents say. That's why fans need to educate themselves to be able to refute the twisted info haters put out there.
1) The possession of child porn is a crime in itself. MJ had been charged with it if he had any. He was never charged with it either in 1993 or in 2005. No, he did not have child porn - not a single piece of it, let alone "tons of". Had MJ have any child porn he would be in jail. Actually this should be evident to anyone with at least two functioniong brain cells.
2) The so called "witnesses" (who were about 5-6, not 12) who claimed in 2005 to have witnessed MJ behave inappropriately were ALL proven to be liars for money on the stand. They were 3 people of the Neverland 5, who only came up with their BS when the media paid them money for it and then they sued MJ trying to leech him off for money. Only MJ counter sued them and they were found to be thieves and liars. At the civil trial they were reprimanded by the Judge for lying on the stand. Then there was Philip LeMarque who also came up with his allegation after the Chandler scandal when he wanted tabloid money for them. He's the "when the price was $100,000 MJ's hands were outside of Macaulay's pants, when it was $500,000 they were inside his pants" guy who Barresi interviewed. Then Blanca Francia who too came up with her allegation when Diane Dimond paid her. Oh, and Bob Jones who admitted on the stand that he lied in his book about having witnessed anything. And there's a bunch of people who not even this prosecution used because they did not have any credibility even for them. So those are the kind of "witnesses" we talk about. ALL, 100% of them, being paid by tabloids and proven to be shady people who would do anything for money.
Lie detector test? LOL. That would be the Hayvenhurst 5 - one of those people claimed to have taken a lie detector test (there's no proof he indeed did). Again, those people were so "credible" that not even the prosecution touched them. In fact, in their police deposition they actually admitted they never witnessed anything inappropriate.
3) MJ did not have porn scattered everywhere. He had them in his LOCKED bedroom - in his nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed and in a locked briefcase. Kids were not supposed to go in there when he wasn't there. It's another thing that some, including the Arvizo kids, did, but how is that MJ's responsibility when kids basically break into his locked bedroom in his absence? And once again: he had no child porn.
4) There's nothing similar in MJ and Jimmy Savile and that "classic pedophile profile" is such a myth. Even Dr. Stanley Katz who was absolutely biased for the prosecution said that MJ did not look like a classic pedophile to him.
