Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[NatureCriminal7896]

I'm not gonna get my hopes up. this feels funny. i'll give her chance. but why a book? why can't you just say what you got to say then writing a book which gonna take awhile to be release? you know there's a doc about Elvis coming out soon i wouldn't be surprise if she doing this for money and getting people to watch her dad doc.... we will just have to see.

 

[NatureCriminal7896]

What this book gonna be about? stuff we already know about her and Michael? this seems like a waste of time. but we'll see.

 

[NatureCriminal7896]

James been very quiet.

 

[wendijane]

James been very quiet.

hes crapping himself lol:rofl:

 

[NatureCriminal7896]

hes crapping himself lol:rofl:

Probably

 

[MJRemixed]

Smooth Radio isn't just a London station. Unless they have a separate London entity?

There are no nationwide UK radio stations playing Michael Jackson apart from the BBC network, as far I have been able to tell. I keep asking in various threads if anyone has any evidence to the contrary but so far, nothing.

One thing I know for sure, the Jackson 5 are not muted on the Bauer network. You can see the entire list of Bauer network stations here: https://www.bauermedia.co.uk/brands-radio

This is true as far as I can tell. I’ve listened to all these types of stations since after LN and NONE have played mj since then. This includes Smooth, absolute 80s, absolute 90s, heart 80s. I’ve searched on twitter and found some people asking why and none of them even reply to people asking. They simply get ignored.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you so much. I’ve reached out to <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> &amp; other family members but haven’t heard back.<br>Either way, I’m proud of my work &amp; glad that the information in the book &amp; documentary is reaching every corner of the world. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllforLove?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllforLove</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/truth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#truth</a> <a href="https://t.co/4Mr7F08MRi">https://t.co/4Mr7F08MRi</a></p>&mdash; Paul Dwyer (@PauliDee) <a href="https://twitter.com/PauliDee/status/1156644189523697664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HOW COOL is that!!! <br>&#128156;&#128156;&#128156;! This is such gorgeous!<br>I wish you were my teacher! I would go to your school with enthusiasm every day &#128513;&#128513;&#128513; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/nvft2V11C0">https://t.co/nvft2V11C0</a></p>&mdash; Lois Bay (@lois_laniee) <a href="https://twitter.com/lois_laniee/status/1156951560976568320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/fc8EZoVgs7">pic.twitter.com/fc8EZoVgs7</a></p>&mdash; Liam McEwan (@LiamMcEwan) <a href="https://twitter.com/LiamMcEwan/status/1156690496766431237?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> was the greatest entertainer ever. Not even <a href="https://twitter.com/Oprah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@oprah</a> can change that. Y’all can’t erase him. <a href="https://t.co/QfCGPOfVOG">pic.twitter.com/QfCGPOfVOG</a></p>&mdash; Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/status/1115217424830349312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[analogue]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is a picture of 4 men leaving court after they testified in defense of Michael Jackson in 2005. 3 of them look serious. One is smiling, lapping up the cameras and attention...and he&#8217;s the only one who claims he was abused for 7 years and he was &#8220;forced&#8221; to testify. <a href="https://t.co/Bp6GR0YdXO">pic.twitter.com/Bp6GR0YdXO</a></p>&mdash; Sahar *~* (@sahar_mrli) <a href="https://twitter.com/sahar_mrli/status/1156939463152623617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MJPoetryFan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is a picture of 4 men leaving court after they testified in defense of Michael Jackson in 2005. 3 of them look serious. One is smiling, lapping up the cameras and attention...and he&#8217;s the only one who claims he was abused for 7 years and he was &#8220;forced&#8221; to testify. <a href="https://t.co/Bp6GR0YdXO">pic.twitter.com/Bp6GR0YdXO</a></p>&mdash; Sahar *~* (@sahar_mrli) <a href="https://twitter.com/sahar_mrli/status/1156939463152623617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who is the bottom right guy?

 

[Alh21]

What this book gonna be about? stuff we already know about her and Michael? this seems like a waste of time. but we'll see.

It won't matter what she says in the book, it could all be a pack of lies, we will never know the truth anyway, don't trust anyone that says they have revelations about Michael cause u know it won't be good, I wouldn't read it if I was paid to, like I said before, if what she's going to say the truth then it's personal and it should be left that way, I have no desire to listen to anymore crap that idiots are going to come out with, my heart goes out to his family, I'm sure they are exhausted with all of this I know I would be

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Who is the bottom right guy?

Brett barnes. Everyone on the board thought he was wades bodyguard when we first saw him.we were like woah and forgot it wasnt 1993 anymore!!

 

[terrell]

It's really frustrating when you show someone all the evidence that points towards Michael's innocence, and they're response is always ''We'll never know for sure''

That is dumb at this point. The we all can be accused and get "we will never know for sure" including those people who say such things. I will say to them, you abused me. They will say "they met me", I can say yes u did you just do not remember", and if they get angry, folks around can say "well, we will never know for sure" even if evidence and testimony say I never met them but I say I did met them and they abused me.

 

[Amaya]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking a wait and see approach to this. People will hype and twist it to get clicks before a single word is written.</p>&#8212; MJ101 (@MJ_1_0_1) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJ_1_0_1/status/1156418574228971520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actually, she does need the money. <a href="https://t.co/tCHHWwAK8W">pic.twitter.com/tCHHWwAK8W</a></p>&#8212; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1156429471882153984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She&#8217;s been a down ass chick for MJ. There were plenty of times she could have turned her back on MJ, never did. She has always spoken to MJ&#8217;s heterosexuality and defended him against child abuse claims.</p>&#8212; Dr. Andrew Greene (@AndrewGreene864) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreene864/status/1156445183829061634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Juli 2019</a></blockquote>
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I wonder if Lisa is having financial troubles due to Scientology draining her... >.>

In regards to her book, I'm hoping it's nothing too troubling and the media is just trying to stir shit by saying there's "shocking revelations" when there really won't be any. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[Alh21]

Some people on twitter are saying Lisa won't be saying negative things about Michael, I haven't seen her in any interviews but I know she did defend him about the allegations, I hope that I'm proven wrong about her and she does stand up for him. It's true the media will turn anything around to make it look bad on Michael so I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will all good that comes from Lisa

 

[ChrisC]

This is true as far as I can tell. I’ve listened to all these types of stations since after LN and NONE have played mj since then. This includes Smooth, absolute 80s, absolute 90s, heart 80s. I’ve searched on twitter and found some people asking why and none of them even reply to people asking. They simply get ignored.

I emailed Absolute 80s and was ignored. As a result I stopped listening, and unfollowed their social media channels.

 

[Alh21]

I emailed Absolute 80s and was ignored. As a result I stopped listening, and unfollowed their social media channels.

I'm not surprised they ignored u, what can they say in their defence, nothing at all, its strange when people are asked questions they either come back with a load of rubbish or they just ignore the question, well done for making a stand, I'd be turning my radio station off if the didn't play Michael, had Bad on this morning at 8am, as long as they keep playing him ill keep listening but I would be asking why if they stopped, the other thing that they do is always mention his name after the song, like they are proud to be playing him

 

[NatureCriminal7896]

Lisa said some not good stuff about Michael in the past. you can look it up on youtube if it's still there. i really don't have a good feeling about this but if she doing it for good then okay. if she doing it for money then.... i wouldn't be surprise. elvis got a doc coming out soon. we will just have to wait and see.

 

[analogue]

Some love to say that ''Michael paid people to keep quiet'' when it comes to these allegations, and I always ask that if he was paying people to keep quiet, then why didn't he pay the mainstream media to keep quiet also? One of the first priorities of a guilty person would be to do something like that. And the media is not above covering up shady shit.

If Michael was guilty (And he wasn't) then we wouldn't have heard a word about any allegation until after he died.

 

[Alh21]

Lisa said some not good stuff about Michael in the past. you can look it up on youtube if it's still there. i really don't have a good feeling about this but if she doing it for good then okay. if she doing it for money then.... i wouldn't be surprise. elvis got a doc coming out soon. we will just have to wait and see.

I'm going to reserve judgement on Lisa for now till we find out what she's going to say, I'm with u the idea that I don't have a good feeling about it either, I must admit my heart sank when I read it in the news about the book, I just thought we were getting somewhere and then this happens, I just hope and pray that it won't be anything bad. Tbh she can't say that she saw anything or she would have been called as a witness to back up them 2 looser so I suppose that's something to hold onto, I really hope I'm right in what I say about that

 

[Alh21]

Some love to say that ''Michael paid people to keep quiet'' when it comes to these allegations, and I always ask that if he was paying people to keep quiet, then why didn't he pay the mainstream media to keep quiet also? One of the first priorities of a guilty person would be to do something like that. And the media is not above covering up shady shit.

If Michael was guilty (And he wasn't) then we wouldn't have heard a word about any allegations until after he died.

I wouldn't be surprised if they came out and said Michael had hypnotised people to keep them quiet, they will say anything to try and prove he was guilty, that will probably be the next thing Robson comes out with, one of the problems with have is that it seems were Michael is concerned anything goes, if them 2 said that Michael had taken them up in a spaceship and abused them the idiots that wanna believe MJ to be guilty would believe it

 

[Alh21]

https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress...mes-safechucks-leaving-neverland-fiction/amp/, this is an article about debunking LN, i know its a few months old but I've just read it, I'm really struggling to understand how the people think these 2 are telling the truth. I have no doubt in my mind that they are but if I was unsure this article would have me thinking very carefully, are there really so stupid that they could actually think this was real, it's making me so very mad

 

[PoP]

Lisa said some not good stuff about Michael in the past. you can look it up on youtube if it's still there. i really don't have a good feeling about this but if she doing it for good then okay. if she doing it for money then.... i wouldn't be surprise. elvis got a doc coming out soon. we will just have to wait and see.

That was all Priscilla, she planted bad seeds into Lisa Marie's brain making her saying bull$#|^ about Michael. It's all Priscilla's words, not Lisa Marie's, she's the one who hated Michael.

 

[analogue]

It would be great if Youtuber Shane Dawson did a series covering these allegations. His channel is massive, and he's covered controversial topics in the past. And he would do his research on the allegations, and he would get interviews with people who knew Michael. His channel has a gigantic following, and if he covered this, then it would be a great help. And he doesn't seem like the type of person to lie about something like this. Especially because he's been falsely accused of pedophilla himself, so he can understand what that's like.

This would get more attention than the documentary Taj is planning. No offense to Taj. The effort he puts in defending his uncle is awesome, but Shane would draw more attention. The last video Shane made got 27 million views so far. So, he wouldn't need to make a negative MJ video to try and gain views, because he already gets views anyway.

 

[Alh21]

That was all Priscilla, she planted bad seeds into Lisa Marie's brain making her saying bull$#|^ about Michael. It's all Priscilla's words, not Lisa Marie's, she's the one who hated Michael.

I was thinking exactly the same, she always thought she was something special cause she was married to elvis, I remember watching a documentary on her I think and she was so far up her own arse, her hating Michael could only be jealousy because I can't think of any other reason

 

[analogue]

Michael gets accused, goes to court to fight his innocence, is found not guilty, but is still treated like a criminal
Roman Polanski gets accused, flees the country, but then he gets standing ovations at award shows

Yep, no double standards happen here

 

[NatureCriminal7896]

I think we need to wait and see what lisa has to say. i got a feeling it's the same stuff we already know. we just have to see.

 

[Alh21]

Michael gets accused, goes to court to fight his innocence, is found not guilty, but is still treated like a criminal
Roman Polanski gets accused, flees the country, but then he gets standing ovations at award shows

Yep, no double standards happen here

Do we actually know why Michael's treated this way, I just can't figure it out, I didn't understand it years ago and I still haven't figured it out now

 

[Alh21]

I don't feel like I'm doing enough to fight Michael's corner, I know for sure he's Innocent and always have but I read stuff on twitter where people have said things to Oprah and Robson on their accounts but I haven't said anything to them, I feel like I'm letting Michael down because I'm not standing up for him but I don't know what to do

 

[La74]

Do we actually know why Michael's treated this way, I just can't figure it out, I didn't understand it years ago and I still haven't figured it out now

He was an eccentric person and an easy target and maybe there is some rasism in it as well. Which is why I think it is important to support Taj. Charles Thomson is now also in his team and show that that we will never give up. The guy with the youtube channel with many followers also sounded like a good idea.

 

[La74]

It would be great if Youtuber Shane Dawson did a series covering these allegations. His channel is massive, and he's covered controversial topics in the past. And he would do his research on the allegations, and he would get interviews with people who knew Michael. His channel has a gigantic following, and if he covered this, then it would be a great help. And he doesn't seem like the type of person to lie about something like this. Especially because he's been falsely accused of pedophilla himself, so he can understand what that's like.

This would get more attention than the documentary Taj is planning. No offense to Taj. The effort he puts in defending his uncle is awesome, but Shane would draw more attention. The last video Shane made got 27 million views so far. So, he wouldn't need to make a negative MJ video to try and gain views, because he already gets views anyway.

That sounds like a good idea. It would be great if he would choose to cooperate with Taj, John Ziegler etc.