Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[Alh21]

Shut up fiddes. Attention seeking idiot who spent a week hanging around mjs real security thanks to geller and was never seen again

I've been seeing a few media reports of him saying stuff about MJ, I read his was Michaels bodyguard for 10 years, is this not true?

 

[MJTruth]

I've been seeing a few media reports of him saying stuff about MJ, I read his was Michaels bodyguard for 10 years, is this not true?

nobody has seen any evidence of it. the only photos of him with mj are from the same trip to the UK.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I've been seeing a few media reports of him saying stuff about MJ, I read his was Michaels bodyguard for 10 years, is this not true?

No its not. Total lie. He got to hang around mj for a week in june 2002 thanks to uri geller as when mj did the exeter football club speech (geller was on the board at the club) fiddes had his martial arts students acting as stewards for the event. (Total mayhem as unqualified and untrained) he got to hang around and tag along with mjs real security for the week and that was it. Old members of this board from the same area as fiddes said hes supposedly a known attention seeking wannabe celeb. He tried to get pally with the jackson for some docu which ended up in court in the uk. Kj testified that when she asked mj about fiddes he didnt even know his name.

 

[Alh21]

No its not. Total lie. He got to hang around mj for a week in june 2002 thanks to uri geller as when mj did the exeter football club speech (geller was on the board at the club) fiddes had his martial arts students acting as stewards for the event. (Total mayhem as unqualified and untrained) he got to hang around and tag along with mjs real security for the week and that was it. Old members of this board from the same area as fiddes said hes supposedly a known attention seeking wannabe celeb. He tried to get pally with the jackson for some docu which ended up in court in the uk. Kj testified that when she asked mj about fiddes he didnt even know his name.

Omg that's shocking, definitely an attention seeker, was he in the documentary that was made, chase the truth or am I thinking of someone else

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Omg that's shocking, definitely an attention seeker, was he in the documentary that was made, chase the truth or am I thinking of someone else

I believe he is yeah, fans on Twitter were thanking him.

Fiddess did reply on that article though, apparently he never said girls and said young women but it's the typical media turning words around. I saw Fiddes getting enough praise from fans on Twitter, but I realize he's far from reliable.

 

[WannaScream]

I'd never heard of Fiddes until 'Chase the Truth' but although it seems like some people are not a fan, I thought he did well in the film. I also like Mark Lester, he seems genuine and believable, unlike you know who. Hopefully the public will watch this film.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Oh also, as for Ellen Degenerate


Just read on Twitter that she has a business relationship with HBHO, I think that says all you need to know how she went from "fan" (apparently) to believing the fake victims.

 

[terrell]

Oh also, as for Ellen Degenerate


Just read on Twitter that she has a business relationship with HBHO, I think that says all you need to know how she went from "fan" (apparently) to believing the fake victims.

I wonder how she feels now that all of the trash about these liars are now out. She had feeling in March after the Oprah show (she brown noses Oprah) but we do not know her feelings now.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Omg that's shocking, definitely an attention seeker, was he in the documentary that was made, chase the truth or am I thinking of someone else

His stories got more OTT over time. Claiming to be blankets dad (or implying) saying he lived with mj at the ranch for years. Fans should not suppot or thank someone who tells lies even of those lies are perceived to be positive. A lie is a lie. It doesnt help the cause when there are people like him and fans who are prepared to go along and become groupies because its giving those sorts of people the thing they want. Attention.

Mark lester was a very loyal friend before 09 but once again people showed their lack of moral fibre by running to the press after mj was gone making stupid claims about paris. Once they realise the free holidays,free gifts have stopped they sell mj down the river

 

[Alh21]

Oh also, as for Ellen Degenerate


Just read on Twitter that she has a business relationship with HBHO, I think that says all you need to know how she went from "fan" (apparently) to believing the fake victims.

I never had any tolerance for this woman, her and oprah are as bad as each other, pathetic waste of space the pair of them. I do believe they just went along with believing the BS from them two idiots because they thought it would give them fame, unfortunately for them it doesn't seemed to have worked. I don't believe for one second that they actually think robson and safechuck are telling the truth I think they saw an opportunity and ran with it but failed to do any research before they did

 

[8701girl]

emmy's are horrible PERIOD! .

 

[Alh21]

emmy's are horrible PERIOD! .

too right, never watched them and never will

 

[Paris78]

Square One Premiere

 

[Paris78]

Tom Mesereau, Charles Thompson and John Ziegler 🙌😁💖 #mjinnocent #squareonemj

 

[Paris78]

#SquareOneMJ received a standing ovation at its LA premiere tonight.The documentary is a VITAL and superbly-made film about the truth of the 1993 #MichaelJackson allegations, which everyone needs to watch on October 5th.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> is THE definitive Michael Jackson accuser documentary. This is the one we've been waiting for and that everyone deserves. Must-watch whether you are anti-MJ or devoted <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJfam</a> <a href="https://t.co/7Zp3gGDTaJ">https://t.co/7Zp3gGDTaJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/NSEehuMgqQ">pic.twitter.com/NSEehuMgqQ</a></p>&mdash; Reidun Saxerud (@reidunsaxerud) <a href="https://twitter.com/reidunsaxerud/status/1178188012011868160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Geraldine's FB page: Geraldine Hughes (author of Redemption) and Tom Mesereau. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/wLnfhBOjOq">pic.twitter.com/wLnfhBOjOq</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1178082999914512384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">- thank u <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOne</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a><br>See it October 5 &#128081;&#128081;&#128081;&#8252;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/x04W2AGmtZ">pic.twitter.com/x04W2AGmtZ</a></p>&mdash; loripetty (@loripetty) <a href="https://twitter.com/loripetty/status/1178120768372129792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Out here with <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> supporting the film <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> because <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjisinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjisinnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/CR87keJNLh">pic.twitter.com/CR87keJNLh</a></p>&mdash; joe jitsukawa (@joejitsukawa) <a href="https://twitter.com/joejitsukawa/status/1178078135742599171?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The cast of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Redemption_mj?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Redemption_mj</a> <a href="https://t.co/DcWxmnqHSK">pic.twitter.com/DcWxmnqHSK</a></p>&mdash; Jenny Winings (@JennyW526) <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyW526/status/1178144151017123840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Alh21]

#SquareOneMJ received a standing ovation at its LA premiere tonight.The documentary is a VITAL and superbly-made film about the truth of the 1993 #MichaelJackson allegations, which everyone needs to watch on October 5th.

I am so looking forward to watching this, it can not come soon enough In my opinion, does anyone know what is in it and is it going to expose even more evidence to prove MJ is innocent?

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not a great photo (I’m sure one of the many people taking shots of us has a better one) but I sat with the great Tom Meseruo &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> at the premiere of <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> documentary “Square One” discrediting the original allegations against Michael Jackson. Big WATZ podcast Sunday <a href="https://t.co/5WV9Vv6447">pic.twitter.com/5WV9Vv6447</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1178118552504504323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A standing ovation for <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a>’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOne</a> at Indie Night Film Fest. <a href="https://t.co/SJ3NsBmMdB">pic.twitter.com/SJ3NsBmMdB</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1178110878840950786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Rome Michael is always with us 28/09/2019. <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJCast</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/scgilly1982?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@scgilly1982</a> <a href="https://t.co/SpJ54CqCoP">pic.twitter.com/SpJ54CqCoP</a></p>&mdash; caioli cinzia&#127470;&#127481; (@CinziaRcs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CinziaRcs/status/1178040947520745480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Alh21]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not a great photo (I&#8217;m sure one of the many people taking shots of us has a better one) but I sat with the great Tom Meseruo & <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> at the premiere of <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> documentary &#8220;Square One&#8221; discrediting the original allegations against Michael Jackson. Big WATZ podcast Sunday <a href="https://t.co/5WV9Vv6447">pic.twitter.com/5WV9Vv6447</a></p>&#8212; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1178118552504504323?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A standing ovation for <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a>&#8217;s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOne</a> at Indie Night Film Fest. <a href="https://t.co/SJ3NsBmMdB">pic.twitter.com/SJ3NsBmMdB</a></p>&#8212; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1178110878840950786?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Rome Michael is always with us 28/09/2019. <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJCast</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/scgilly1982?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@scgilly1982</a> <a href="https://t.co/SpJ54CqCoP">pic.twitter.com/SpJ54CqCoP</a></p>&#8212; caioli cinzia&#55356;&#56814;&#55356;&#56825; (@CinziaRcs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CinziaRcs/status/1178040947520745480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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The pictures are great, thank u for sharing

 

[ozemouze]

Oh also, as for Ellen Degenerate


Just read on Twitter that she has a business relationship with HBHO, I think that says all you need to know how she went from "fan" (apparently) to believing the fake victims.

What a coincidence isn't it that the most vocal pro-LN blue ticks are (or become) somewhat affiliated with HBO. It's nice to see the reactions on her twitter though to her proud announcement, people see through her: "OHHHH so that's why!!!".

On a more positive note: I'm very impressed with Lori Petty lately. We know that these days it takes not only knowledge but also courage to go against the flow (that's why I appreciate already if someone at least doesn't participate in the witch hunt even if they aren't vocal with their support either), but Lori was very consistent with standing behind MJ and the truth. Kudos to her for that! :heart:

Oh and infite thanks to T-Mez, as always!

It would be amazing if "Square One" could reach a wider audience!

 

[Thriller_MJ]

I have been saying for months there is something Dan Reed is hiding on himself even Mr. John Ziegel is commenting this about Dan. His eyes are too evil and his smile is too smirky when he discusses this issue no matter what he thinks about MJ. MARK MY WORD that Emmy win is going to reveal/make others reveal his demon.

It's cause Reed is likely a peado who is hiding in plain sight and is probably laughing at those who are to stupid to see that something isn't right about him. I had the same feeling about Jimmy Saville, i thought he was creepy when he was alive, i get the same vibes from Reed.

I looked up his IMDB and I seen he done previous work on peadophiles so if anyone knows the launguage they use or how they slip through the net it's him. He most likely started doing it to cover his own tracks so he won't get tracked down

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

I badly want to see Square One, I just saw heaps of praise for it on Twitter. Sounds like it could be quite heartbreaking too, because again we'll hear/see how MJ was stabbed in the back so badly back then, that's where it all started. Truly hope many people watch it because even one person that believes these fake victims is one too many really.

Netflix should pick it up, doubt they will though. After all they did have LN in Arab Emirates Netflix if I'm not mistaken. Sadly withoit a big network or streaming service picking it up there will always be people that won't bother with it and going "meh, surely made by fans of his" or whatever.

 

[dam2040]

I badly want to see Square One, I just saw heaps of praise for it on Twitter. Sounds like it could be quite heartbreaking too, because again we'll hear/see how MJ was stabbed in the back so badly back then, that's where it all started. Truly hope many people watch it because even one person that believes these fake victims is one too many really.

Netflix should pick it up, doubt they will though. After all they did have LN in Arab Emirates Netflix if I'm not mistaken. Sadly withoit a big network or streaming service picking it up there will always be people that won't bother with it and going "meh, surely made by fans of his" or whatever.

YouTube in a few weeks. Also in discussion with Amazon Prime

 

[ozemouze]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey guys! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CEThomson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> <a href="https://t.co/NRkCKKRCdp">pic.twitter.com/NRkCKKRCdp</a></p>&mdash; Jenny Winings (@JennyW526) <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyW526/status/1178159554661498882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. szeptember 29.</a></blockquote>
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How cute pic.

 

[terrell]

I badly want to see Square One, I just saw heaps of praise for it on Twitter. Sounds like it could be quite heartbreaking too, because again we'll hear/see how MJ was stabbed in the back so badly back then, that's where it all started. Truly hope many people watch it because even one person that believes these fake victims is one too many really.

Netflix should pick it up, doubt they will though. After all they did have LN in Arab Emirates Netflix if I'm not mistaken. Sadly withoit a big network or streaming service picking it up there will always be people that won't bother with it and going "meh, surely made by fans of his" or whatever.

Do not give up hope. Netflix may pick it up. Look how many fans were "gloom doom" when this trash aired and look at all the lies that have been debunked and MJ still doing great. Do not be surprise if it is not on Netflix especially after what Dave Chappelle said. What does anyone one fear by not having it on Netflix? people have a RIGHT to see BOTH sides now and if anyone want to 'repress" MJ side that means they have a motive to hide the TRUTH.

 

[Alh21]

Do not give up hope. Netflix may pick it up. Look how many fans were "gloom doom" when this trash aired and look at all the lies that have been debunked and MJ still doing great. Do not be surprise if it is not on Netflix especially after what Dave Chappelle said. What does anyone one fear by not having it on Netflix? people have a RIGHT to see BOTH sides now and if anyone want to 'repress" MJ side that means they have a motive to hide the TRUTH.

I think people will watch it out of curiosity, I bet even the haters watch it as well, though they would probably never admit it

 

[ozemouze]

Do not be surprise if it is not on Netflix especially after what Dave Chappelle said.

Hmm, interesting thought. I wouldn't go so far as to think it will be on Netflix (that's too unrealistic IMO unfortunately), but they were certainly aware what they were doing when they aired Chappelle's (a bit harsh) comment on the topic. To think about it, this may have been the first moment in US MSM to allow a different opinion on W&R's accusation - an opinion no doubt many shares, but are too scared to say in public.

Also interesting at the Netflix Emmy after party:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So apparently it was Netflix's Emmy after party. Is Netflix trolling HBO? LMAO. <a href="https://t.co/qSjoelBvEa">https://t.co/qSjoelBvEa</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1176162347930591232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. szeptember 23.</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The falsely accused paying tribute to the Falsely Accused !! this is a big &quot;up yours&quot; to Reed, Wade, Safechuck and HBO -- bloop <a href="https://t.co/EPTElQSlBG">pic.twitter.com/EPTElQSlBG</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1176166325070094336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. szeptember 23.</a></blockquote>
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[ozemouze]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No victims are shamed. Watch the movie. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a></p>&mdash; loripetty (@loripetty) <a href="https://twitter.com/loripetty/status/1178133797545492482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. szeptember 29.</a></blockquote>
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Ha ha, go, Lori! :kickass:

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Lots of haters trying to put it down on twitter. Shows it hit a nerve

 

[ozemouze]

Lots of haters trying to put it down on twitter. Shows it hit a nerve

Yeah but now they can be told to "just watch the movie".

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="hu"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow! I cannot believe it has come to this, that it&#39;s OUR turn to say....Watch The Film!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOneMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOneMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/wp3B87SIg4">https://t.co/wp3B87SIg4</a></p>&mdash; Umy Fareena Ahmad (@Umyfareenahmad) <a href="https://twitter.com/Umyfareenahmad/status/1178148486123945984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2019. szeptember 29.</a></blockquote>
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