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Thriller 40th Anniversary

If the only studio footage is for the girl is mine I will still be hugely disappointed
 
MJbr2 said:
Nobody changes overnight. Hoping this doc will be good, but I'd still prefer the Estate to work with somebody who respects MJ and appreciates him like we do (Spike Lee, cough cough).
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Keep Spike away. Call anyone else.
 
dam2040 said:
The documentary can still be good while they chose the wrong director who’s a POS.

Just shows again they have no respect for MJ as a person by picking someone who for the last 35 years has attacked his character, race and behaviour top to bottom.
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But he is still professional enough to deliver a good job apparently.
 
Thriller 40th review:

5/10

It starts with a brief bad montage of Jackson 5 to off the wall. Nothing special, nothing new.

Then the endless interviews start.

Highlight: The girl is mine.
Video recording session
Paul McCartney and MJ singing (never seen before)
Maybe 1min footage
Heavily edited between interviews

Then more interviews
Nothing new.
The pacing is a bit all over the place.

Beat it.
Demo audio that we all heard already.
Then 2 deleted cuts from Beat It music video and some never seen behind the scene (all in glorious 4K)
Unfortunately very short.

Billie Jean.
Some bit of music video and demo audio
Nothing new there.
Wonderful footage of BTS (K-pop band) 😜

Thriller
Some bit of the music video (and some unseen behind the stage) all in 4K include the unseen making of.
Interview with MJ at a desk that seemed to be made from the thriller video. Unseen before.

Then some boring bits and interviews.
Pepsi advert ( A french fan uploaded the original 35mm reel a few years back with oversaturated highlight)
They took that footage from YouTube and put some AI filter on it. So it looks like a cartoon.

Mentioning Motown 25th and ET storybook
Grammies. Nothing new there to see.

Then the moment I was waiting for.

Victory tour live Los Angeles in amazing Glorious 4K
Very short beginning of the entrance and the start of WBSS.
Snippet of human nature and beat it.
Billie Jean is weirdly edited with multiple non-synchronised angles. (And added with some low-quality footage that we already saw)
The audio isn't great.

The victory tour 4K footage is in total there for 4min


Overall you ll learn nothing new in that documentary.
90% is people being interviewed.

I ll say 12min out of 1h30min is unseen.

Quincy jones is briefly mentioned and they randomly put the audio of him talking about carousel taken from the thriller special edition 2001.

Watching this in a room full of MJ fans wasn’t great either as some people kept talking, loudly commenting and screaming during the screening

The rating is my own personal opinion.
Someone may think it was amazing and rate it 10/10
 
lounisp said:
Thriller 40th review:

5/10

It starts with a brief bad montage of Jackson 5 to off the wall. Nothing special, nothing new.

Then the endless interviews start.

Highlight: The girl is mine.
Video recording session
Paul McCartney and MJ singing (never seen before)
Maybe 1min footage
Heavily edited between interviews

Then more interviews
Nothing new.
The pacing is a bit all over the place.

Beat it.
Demo audio that we all heard already.
Then 2 deleted cuts from Beat It music video and some never seen behind the scene (all in glorious 4K)
Unfortunately very short.

Billie Jean.
Some bit of music video and demo audio
Nothing new there.
Wonderful footage of BTS (K-pop band) 😜

Thriller
Some bit of the music video (and some unseen behind the stage) all in 4K include the unseen making of.
Interview with MJ at a desk that seemed to be made from the thriller video. Unseen before.

Then some boring bits and interviews.
Pepsi advert ( A french fan uploaded the original 35mm reel a few years back with oversaturated highlight)
They took that footage from YouTube and put some AI filter on it. So it looks like a cartoon.

Mentioning Motown 25th and ET storybook
Grammies. Nothing new there to see.

Then the moment I was waiting for.

Victory tour live Los Angeles in amazing Glorious 4K
Very short beginning of the entrance and the start of WBSS.
Snippet of human nature and beat it.
Billie Jean is weirdly edited with multiple non-synchronised angles. (And added with some low-quality footage that we already saw)
The audio isn't great.

The victory tour 4K footage is in total there for 4min


Overall you ll learn nothing new in that documentary.
90% is people being interviewed.

I ll say 12min out of 1h30min is unseen.

Quincy jones is briefly mentioned and they randomly put the audio of him talking about carousel taken from the thriller special edition 2001.

Watching this in a room full of MJ fans wasn’t great either as some people kept talking, loudly commenting and screaming during the screening

The rating is my own personal opinion.
Someone may think it was amazing and rate it 10/10
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Seems like this documentary will only be worth the watch for the unseen/remastered footage.
 
I seriously dislike how they're including BTS on this. First, what does the band have to do with Thriller? The members were probably born many years after the album was even made. And second of all I cringe at the comparison that BTS fans make between some band member and with MJ, recently MJ was trending on Twitter and it was only because they were comparing their World Cup performance to MJ's Super Bowl which obviously doesn't come anywhere close to any of MJ's performances. The band being on the documentary will only encourage said comparisons for their fans. I seriously cringe at any "X artist is the new Michael Jackson" comment.
 
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But I’m still amazed by the quality of the Victory tour they have in their possession.
The low light scene on human nature just looked beautiful and clear.
The shot from behind him with a view of the stadium was just stunning.
Beautiful 35mm grained crisp footage.
Very different angles than what we see on the News reports or on the jumbo screen.
 
filmandmusic said:
In the 80s MJ got compared with the best of the best. In the 90s it was Nsync then it was Justin Timberlake and now it is BTS. It gets progressively worse each decade
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Yeah. Ok that said artists could have some similarities with MJ but there'll never be anyone with the same impact as the man himself, and this is why these type of comments make me cringe.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Yeah. Ok that said artists could have some similarities with MJ but there'll never be anyone with the same impact as the man himself, and this is why these type of comments make me cringe.
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My problem is that they are prefab pop while MJ is a bonafide musical talent in more than one area, he is self made.
In the 80s he was compared to Prince and George Michael and both of them are hugely talented and timeless. Who still listens to Nsync?
 
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Now that I’m thinking more, another thing to REMOVE is this wildly egotistical and totally unnecessary montage of self-glorification in the end credits where the estate bangs on about how good their posthumous products are. Hopefully that’s placeholder, because it’s grotesque.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1598098979027185664
 
MJbr2 said:
They had the chance to embrace Sonic Fantasy, which is literally about Thriller and had Bruce himself.
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If I’m not mistaken, isn’t that just about the actual recording process of the album? Not necessarily the album itself? Obviously it’s still worth embracing, but that doesn’t really seem like something the general public would care to see.
Licinus said:
What’s wrong with Spike?
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I think his documentaries both dropped the ball to varying degrees. Bad 25 was good, but put too much emphasis on the contemporary artist commentary over the behind the scenes footage. The OTW documentary was garbage. He’s more concerned with shoving MJ’s influence down our throats than actually paying tribute to the album it’s centered on.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Seems like this documentary will only be worth the watch for the unseen/remastered footage.
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Lounis’s review is the first that said anything excessively negative about it. Even the estate’s harshest critics (Damien, PezJax) have called it outstanding, if imperfect. I just can’t fathom the pessimism still lol. Let’s give it a chance first.
 
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Hulkamaniac said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1598062659701997570

I really hope they AT LEAST show one complete song. It'd be torture if all they show is 10 seconds snippets.
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It is like those snippets of the DSTYGE Triumph tour performance on the doc from Motown to Off The Wall.
Very tasty but mostly frustrating… especially so for DSTYGE as we have not seen him perform that song yet in full( and in good quality)
 
Is there any more issue with TII footage being shown apart from what was actually going on behind the scenes? I can't see the correlation between TII and "Branca's ego". I wouldn't feel that bothered if it was just a couple of seconds of footage.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Is there any more issue with TII footage being shown apart from what was actually going on behind the scenes? I can't see the correlation between TII and "Branca's ego". I wouldn't feel that bothered if it was just a couple of seconds of footage.
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Is there an issue beyond lying & carefully editing clips to make MJ look much healthier than he was so they could all cash in on how they literally worked him to death??

It’s so distasteful & honestly WTF are they thinking including a montage of the BS they’ve put out since he passed? It’s a doc about MJs shining moment, achieving his lifetime goal, the biggest album ever, in the whole of music.

We DONT need compilations of crap they’ve put out since he died, Usher telling us he likes Lady in my Life etc, it’s all about MJs art and his hard work and tireless dedication

No doubt lost in the shuffle of BTS etc & MJ estate propaganda.. new footage sounds very cool but I’m so tired of them stomping all over the man himself and his efforts
 
dam2040 said:
Is there an issue beyond lying & carefully editing clips to make MJ look much healthier than he was so they could all cash in on how they literally worked him to death??
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That's what I meant by "what was actually going on behind the scenes". Any TII footage we see of MJ during the rehearsals was him high on ephedrine.
dam2040 said:
It’s so distasteful & honestly WTF are they thinking including a montage of the BS they’ve put out since he passed? It’s a doc about MJs shining moment, achieving his lifetime goal, the biggest album ever, in the whole of music.

We DONT need compilations of crap they’ve put out since he died, Usher telling us he likes Lady in my Life etc, it’s all about MJs art and his hard work and tireless dedication

No doubt lost in the shuffle of BTS etc & MJ estate propaganda.. new footage sounds very cool but I’m so tired of them stomping all over the man himself and his efforts
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Ah, ok. that makes more sense. I assumed that it was a recap montage of everything that went on in Michael's career and they happened to show a couple of seconds of TII footage, in that case I wouldn't have minded it but in the way that you're describing that's pure ego massaging lmao.
 
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