Do you think the This is it concerts were gonna be great ?

Was there actually a warming up act planned? Or is this usually only on tour?
Interesting ! knowing the previous tours / concerts only from broadcasts & recordings, everybody please feel free to elaborate and tell who/what was/were the supporting acts if there was any when you attended a previous tour. Thanks !
 
To be clear I was paraphrasing but that's how it came across to me at least. It was mentioned in that TMZ special..
Would be interesting to have all the e-mail easily accessible on a single place, for everybody to read by themselves, but what I remember at the time for this particular message (paraphrasing also), was even more like “too bad he’s dead but we will make even more money this way”
 
Out of all my mates - i never had tickets but...i planned to go...much , much later.. in august /oct .you know when it was "everyone had seen him" . would never have gone the first night. no way on earth.
 
It has been said that Michael Jackson was going to perform on stage as little as possible due to his failing health at the time.

For that reason, the production team (reportedly) planned a lot of theatrics, visual effects and a lot of dancing from the backup dancers that would take place on stage, while the singer would rest backstage.

Also, Kenny Ortega revealed that Michael Jackson would lip-sync a lot, and that was the necessary route due to the singer's state of health at the time.

Note also that the 'This Is It' shows were residency concerts and this means that it was a downgrade for Michael Jackson, compared to his previous concerts that used to take place in bigger arenas or in huge stadiums which automatically also had a bigger impact.
Bullshit. Also playing to 1 Mio. people in 1 city is not a downgrade.
 
One has to simply take a look at these emails that were presented in the trials regarding Michael Jackson's death in order to understand what was really going on behind the scenes.

For example, according to one of these emails (that was published in the Los Angeles Times) the singer was not in shape enough yet to sing his songs live and dance at the same time.

According to another email, music supervisor Michael Bearden told Kenny Ortega that he planned using Michael Jackson's studio material for those shows (for lip-syncing).

According to another email, Kenny Ortega expressed his fears that the singer may be unable to rise to the occasion due to real emotional stuff.

Or, according to another email, Kenny Ortega told Randy Phillips that Michael Jackson was not ready (for the shows).

Michael Jackson seemed to be even unable to make that very brief announcement of his upcoming 'This Is It' shows.

As Randy Phillips testified, he had to slap and scream at the singer, and (according to him) it was a miracle that a drunk and despondent Michael Jackson finally appeared at the London event and made that announcement.
More bullshit. Frankly, I don't really believe any of that shit.
 
If we are talking about 1-10 shows if healthy then yes. The this is not it thread really shows how bad things were behind the scenes. I highly doubt he was capable of doing all 50. I dont think they would have been "The worst shows any artist has ever done" though.
Why not? He didn't have to do them all in 1 week. He had 9 months for those shows.
 
I had tickets to show number 8 as I thought that any teething problems would have been ironed out by then.

I remembering getting excited at a text which allowed you to enter the pre-sale.

Tickets went on sale at 8 if I remember and the usual Ticketmaster website crashes occurred.

I ended up being anxious for the next 2 and a half hours until finally being able to book my ticket.

Man what a fcking feeling it was!! Knowing I was finally going to see MJ in concert for the first time.

Like many of us though, we never got that moment :(
 
I had tickets to show number 8 as I thought that any teething problems would have been ironed out by then.

I remembering getting excited at a text which allowed you to enter the pre-sale.

Tickets went on sale at 8 if I remember and the usual Ticketmaster website crashes occurred.

I ended up being anxious for the next 2 and a half hours until finally being able to book my ticket.

Man what a fcking feeling it was!! Knowing I was finally going to see MJ in concert for the first time.

Like many of us though, we never got that moment :(
I had 20 tickets. For the first show and the last show of each leg and inbetween. It was hard work to get them all together. Bought my last on that wednesday in june. Had planned to buy 5 more once the shows started. My goal was to see another 25 shows on TII, to bring my MJ concert total to 50.
 
Why not? He didn't have to do them all in 1 week. He had 9 months for those shows.
If healthy, with the shows spaced out I could see it. However with what was going on I dont see him doing all 50 in the shape he was in regardless.
 
If he wasn't healthy it doesnt really matter. Check out the This is not it thread. Several close fans, kenny Ortega, Mjs hairstylist all had concerns over his frail health.
So what? Doesn't mean they are right. He didn't die from bad health or exhaustion.
 
So what? Doesn't mean they are right. He didn't die from bad health or exhaustion.
He died from certain choices that heavily impacted his health. I think they were right. Its obvious how thin and underweight he was. Again, check out the thread. It's a real insight. He wasn't healthy unfortunately towards the end. He needed help but didnt get it.
 
He died from certain choices that heavily impacted his health. I think they were right. Its obvious how thin and underweight he was. Again, check out the thread. It's a real insight. He wasn't healthy unfortunately towards the end. He needed help but didnt get it.
And again, he died because of his doctor and Propofol and not supposedly being unhealthy, which he wasn't according to the autopsy. So, no, I don't think they were right.
 
And again, he died because of his doctor and Propofol and not supposedly being unhealthy, which he wasn't according to the autopsy. So, no, I don't think they were right.
Propofol wasn't the only substance he was using. The close fans that actually met him in person on several occasions noticed how extremely thin and underweight he was. You can see it in TII. You really think he could have continued taking surgical grade medications like that every day/night and complete 50 shows with that amount of physical stress? Again, if no substances/other health issues weren't a factor I would agree but that just isnt the reality we were given.
 
Propofol wasn't the only substance he was using. The close fans that actually met him in person on several occasions noticed how extremely thin and underweight he was. You can see it in TII. You really think he could have continued taking surgical grade medications like that every day/night and complete 50 shows with that amount of physical stress? Again, if no substances/other health issues weren't a factor I would agree but that just isnt the reality we were given.
But Propofol was what killed him. Really, you don't have to tell me anything. Fact is we'll never know. But I believe if that doctor wasn't an incompetent quack, things wouldn't have went the way they went.
 
But Propofol was what killed him. Really, you don't have to tell me anything. Fact is we'll never know. But I believe if that doctor wasn't an incompetent quack, things wouldn't have went the way they went.

Well yeah, you're basically saying if we lived in a different universe things would have went differently.
 
Well yeah, you're basically saying if we lived in a different universe things would have went differently.
Nah, I'm saying if the doctor would have done what he was hired to do. Put him to sleep, watch him while he is sleeping with the proper equipment and not leave him to die, he would have made these shows. And yes, obviously it is a what if, as it didn't happen and he got killed by his doctor.
 
Nah, I'm saying if the doctor would have done what he was hired to do. Put him to sleep, watch him while he is sleeping with the proper equipment and not leave him to die, he would have made these shows. And yes, obviously it is a what if, as it didn't happen and he got killed by his doctor.
The lack of sleep caused by propofol use was killing him, not sure what's so difficult to understand about that.
 
Th sad thing going through trial evidence after the June 19th incident , Murray began prescribing lesser sedatives as alternatives to propofol. MJ had his best rehearsals when Murray gave him less propofol on 22nd/23rd and none on 23rd/24 June if you look at the trial information and interview . It is telling that MJ was much better at rehearsal when he had at least partially natural sleep .
 
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The lack of sleep caused by propofol use was killing him, not sure what's so difficult to understand about that.
Nah. It was acute Propofol intoxication that killed him. And his stopping breathing due to that. I understand perfectly. Not sure though if you do.
 
Nah. It was acute Propofol intoxication that killed him. And his stopping breathing due to that. I understand perfectly. Not sure though if you do.
Actually, acute Propofol intoxication was one of the factors that killed him.

According to the autopsy report, Michael Jackson died of acute Propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication.

Benzodiazepines were given to the singer along with Propofol (during his last night on earth) in order to treat his anxiety and insomnia.

In Michael Jackson's bloodstream, aside Propofol they were also found traces of lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam, and nordiazepam.

All of the above created the perfect storm that ultimately killed him, as confirmed also by the testimony of sleep expert Dr. Nader Kamangar.
 
Actually, acute Propofol intoxication was one of the factors that killed him.

According to the autopsy report, Michael Jackson died of acute Propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication.

Benzodiazepines were given to the singer along with Propofol (during his last night on earth) in order to treat his anxiety and insomnia.

In Michael Jackson's bloodstream, aside Propofol they were also found traces of lorazepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam, and nordiazepam.

All of the above created the perfect storm that ultimately killed him, as confirmed also by the testimony of sleep expert Dr. Nader Kamangar.
And yet it was the Propofol that did the trick. And not the shows. So really, what are we arguing here??? Why the hell are you so hellbent on "proving" that he wouldn't have been able to do the shows. It's pathetic. I maintain, that once he had gotten over that first show and felt the love of his audience that still stuck with him, he would have completed these shows and they would have been great.
 
And yet it was the Propofol that did the trick. And not the shows. So really, what are we arguing here??? Why the hell are you so hellbent on "proving" that he wouldn't have been able to do the shows. It's pathetic. I maintain, that once he had gotten over that first show and felt the love of his audience that still stuck with him, he would have completed these shows and they would have been great.
And just miraculously cured his dependency on drugs? I don’t think you understand how addiction works.
 
Nah. It was acute Propofol intoxication that killed him. And his stopping breathing due to that. I understand perfectly. Not sure though if you do.

I understand perfectly, you seem to think taking propofol instead of sleeping is totally fine and that it would have no affect at all. Dr's have already testified that MJ would not have lasted much longer abusing it like he was.
 
I understand perfectly, you seem to think taking propofol instead of sleeping is totally fine and that it would have no affect at all. Dr's have already testified that MJ would not have lasted much longer abusing it like he was.
No. I don't. Show me where I said that. But he used Propofol before on tour and that doctor did not kill him.
 
And just miraculously cured his dependency on drugs? I don’t think you understand how addiction works.
For one. It's questionable he was dependent on drugs, for two, people can take drugs and still do shows. And if he was taking stuff for anxiety and stress, once he gets back on stage and stuff goes well, anxiety and stress should be less than at a time you're maybe not as sure about yourself and in a rush to get a show together. But really, I'm done discussing this. I've stopped discussing this 10 years ago. I think you're wrong and I think those shows would have went over well, if that quack doctor wouldn't have crossed Michael's way. None of you will change my mind on that. And it's pathetic that his own "fans" are tearing him down and seem hellbent on denying that he would have been able to get shit done.
 
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