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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

SeriousFX said:
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about GITTG. I wonder if it was a scratch demo or one with full vocals.

And on the subject of the Victory and pre-Bad sessions, Michael seems to have made enough to justify a full album without Quincy. Just look at the huge amount of songs recorded between 1983-1986:

  • Apocalypse Now - no vocals
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Where was it said that Apocalypse Now has no vocals? Iirc the only things that are known about it are that it's around 6 minutes long and has military drum candaces.
 
SeriousFX said:
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about GITTG. I wonder if it was a scratch demo or one with full vocals.

And on the subject of the Victory and pre-Bad sessions, Michael seems to have made enough to justify a full album without Quincy. Just look at the huge amount of songs recorded between 1983-1986:

  • Chicago 1945 - vocally complete
  • Dream Away - vocally complete
  • Whatever he may have recorded with Frank Sinatra - status unknown
  • Buffalo Bill - vocally complete w/backing vocals from the Jacksons
  • Alright Now - status unknown
  • Far, Far Away - status unknown
  • Holiday Inn - status unknown
  • Fantasy - vocally complete w/Jermaine Jackson
  • Tomboy - status unknown
  • What You Do To Me - vocally complete
  • Do You Know Where Your Children Are - vocally complete
  • Throwin' Your Life Away - vocally complete
  • Lovin' You - vocally complete
  • Al Capone - vocally complete
  • Make Or Break - contains a reference vocal, backing vocals, and a scratch bridge
  • Turnin' Me Off - vocally incomplete
  • Streetwalker - vocally complete
  • I'm So Blue - vocally incomplete (?)
  • Free - vocally complete
  • Crack Kills - vocally complete without RUN-DMC rap
  • Saturday Woman - vocally incomplete
  • Price of Fame - vocally complete
  • Abortion Papers - vocally complete
  • Don't Be Messin' 'Round - vocally incomplete
  • Cheater - vocally complete
  • Be Me 4 A Day - status unknown
  • Get In To The Groove - status unknown
  • Someone Put Your Hand Out - vocally incomplete
  • Apocalypse Now - no vocals
  • Fly Away - vocally complete
  • Groove Of Midnight - status unknown
You could make an entire album just out of the vocally complete demos and get away with calling it "finished." And that's not even including the tenative demos for Liberian Girl, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, and Leave Me Alone.
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Vocally complete for "Fantasy"? How do you know ?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Wasn't Turning Me Off considered for Xscape since the tape was seen on the Making of Xscape documentary? Hopefully there's a chance that we still get to hear it someday.

And also Buffalo Bill (I know that it isn't a Bad outtake technically but still) is my most wanted Bad song lol.

Invincible and Post Invincible are strong contenders tbh.
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All I know is both these songs were considered for bad 25
 
SeriousFX said:
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about GITTG. I wonder if it was a scratch demo or one with full vocals.

And on the subject of the Victory and pre-Bad sessions, Michael seems to have made enough to justify a full album without Quincy. Just look at the huge amount of songs recorded between 1983-1986:

EDITED TO ACCOUNT FOR CORRECTIONS USERS HAVE MADE:
  • Chicago 1945 - vocally complete
  • Dream Away - vocally complete
  • Buffalo Bill - vocally complete w/backing vocals from the Jacksons
  • Alright Now - status unknown
  • Far, Far Away - status unknown
  • Holiday Inn - status unknown
  • Fantasy - status unknown w/Jermaine Jackson
  • Tomboy - status unknown
  • What You Do To Me - vocally complete
  • Do You Know Where Your Children Are - vocally complete
  • Throwin' Your Life Away - vocally complete
  • Lovin' You - vocally complete
  • Al Capone - vocally complete
  • Make Or Break - contains a reference vocal, backing vocals, and a scratch bridge
  • Turnin' Me Off - vocally incomplete
  • Streetwalker - vocally complete
  • I'm So Blue - vocally incomplete (?)
  • Free - vocally complete
  • Crack Kills - vocally complete without RUN-DMC rap
  • Saturday Woman - vocally incomplete
  • Price of Fame - vocally complete
  • Abortion Papers - vocally complete
  • Don't Be Messin' 'Round - vocally incomplete
  • Cheater - vocally complete
  • Be Me 4 A Day - status unknown
  • Get In To The Groove - status unknown
  • Someone Put Your Hand Out - vocally incomplete
  • Apocalypse Now - status unknown
  • Fly Away - vocally complete
  • Groove Of Midnight - status unknown
You could make an entire album just out of the vocally complete demos and get away with calling it "finished." And that's not even including the tenative demos for Liberian Girl, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, and Leave Me Alone.
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Tomboy is complete
 
SeriousFX said:
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about GITTG. I wonder if it was a scratch demo or one with full vocals.

And on the subject of the Victory and pre-Bad sessions, Michael seems to have made enough to justify a full album without Quincy. Just look at the huge amount of songs recorded between 1983-1986:

EDITED TO ACCOUNT FOR CORRECTIONS USERS HAVE MADE:
  • Chicago 1945 - vocally complete
  • Dream Away - vocally complete
  • Buffalo Bill - vocally complete w/backing vocals from the Jacksons
  • Alright Now - status unknown
  • Far, Far Away - status unknown
  • Holiday Inn - status unknown
  • Fantasy - status unknown w/Jermaine Jackson
  • Tomboy - status unknown
  • What You Do To Me - vocally complete
  • Do You Know Where Your Children Are - vocally complete
  • Throwin' Your Life Away - vocally complete
  • Lovin' You - vocally complete
  • Al Capone - vocally complete
  • Make Or Break - contains a reference vocal, backing vocals, and a scratch bridge
  • Turnin' Me Off - vocally incomplete
  • Streetwalker - vocally complete
  • I'm So Blue - vocally incomplete (?)
  • Free - vocally complete
  • Crack Kills - vocally complete without RUN-DMC rap
  • Saturday Woman - vocally incomplete
  • Price of Fame - vocally complete
  • Abortion Papers - vocally complete
  • Don't Be Messin' 'Round - vocally incomplete
  • Cheater - vocally complete
  • Be Me 4 A Day - status unknown
  • Get In To The Groove - status unknown
  • Someone Put Your Hand Out - vocally incomplete
  • Apocalypse Now - status unknown
  • Fly Away - vocally complete
  • Groove Of Midnight - status unknown
You could make an entire album just out of the vocally complete demos and get away with calling it "finished." And that's not even including the tenative demos for Liberian Girl, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, and Leave Me Alone.
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What is Get In to the Groove? That title’s been going around for years, yet I’ve seen no evidence that it actually exists.
 
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MultiResearcher said:
Didn't know that MJ recorded a cover of a song titled Photographs, separate from that instrumental track with the same name. Now it makes sense why there were like 4 different registrations in the U.S. Copyright Office. Photographs 2 should be the instrumental piece used in Michael's Affirmation.
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How i can entre to see songs registration
 
SeriousFX said:
Wonder if there's a lawyer around here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eREEhESSBw3QW8O9D9T106-15aBOLNx4A7745VMUo_s/edit#gid=0
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There’s a ton of incorrect info in here.
MultiResearcher said:
Didn't know that MJ recorded a cover of a song titled Photographs, separate from that instrumental track with the same name. Now it makes sense why there were like 4 different registrations in the U.S. Copyright Office. Photographs 2 should be the instrumental piece used in Michael's Affirmation.
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Photographs is one song that seems to have been registered twice. He never recorded another song with the same name to my knowledge. Not sure what that post is about.
 
AlwaysThere said:
There’s a ton of incorrect info in here.

Photographs is one song that seems to have been registered twice. He never recorded another song with the same name to my knowledge. Not sure what that post is about.
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Can you give me a list, so I can change the document for the better?
 
DarylJoel_B said:
NAH BUT LIKE FOR REAL. the BEST outtakes are ALL from the bad era. Cheater, Price of Fame, Streetwalker, I'm So Blue, Al Capone, Free, all of those song, which are my FAVORITES
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I'm not apt to say any era is "the best". I mean, Thriller era outtakes feel the most likely to have "secret hits", or at least that's how most people treat it.

But it is pretty telling that some of the best songs Post Bad originated from around that Era of time (1986-1989).

And it's just as telling that so many of the songs MJ wanted to consistently revist came from the Bad era. We're talking a way larger ratio than OTW, Thriller, Dangerous, and HIStory, is for sure. And that's because of how fruitful it was.
 
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Mister_Jay_Tee said:
And it's just as telling that so many of the songs MJ wanted to consistently revist came from the Bad era. We're talking a way larger ratio than OTW, Thriller, Dangerous, and HIStory, is for sure. And that's because of how fruitful it was.
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omg exactly!! some examples including how he remade someone put your hand out from the bad era to dangerous era, or how he used streetwalker as the basis for dangerous
 
DarylJoel_B said:
omg exactly!! some examples including how he remade someone put your hand out from the bad era to dangerous era, or how he used streetwalker as the basis for dangerous
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Yep. Lotta longevity. A lot of 80s tunes that could easily be huge hits in the modern times of the early 2010s. They would've sounded great.
 
SeriousFX said:
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about GITTG. I wonder if it was a scratch demo or one with full vocals.

And on the subject of the Victory and pre-Bad sessions, Michael seems to have made enough to justify a full album without Quincy. Just look at the huge amount of songs recorded between 1983-1986:

EDITED TO ACCOUNT FOR CORRECTIONS USERS HAVE MADE:
  • Chicago 1945 - vocally complete
  • Dream Away - vocally complete
  • Buffalo Bill - vocally complete w/backing vocals from the Jacksons
  • Alright Now - status unknown
  • Far, Far Away - status unknown
  • Holiday Inn - status unknown
  • Fantasy - status unknown w/Jermaine Jackson
  • Tomboy - status unknown
  • What You Do To Me - vocally complete
  • Do You Know Where Your Children Are - vocally complete
  • Throwin' Your Life Away - vocally complete
  • Lovin' You - vocally complete
  • Al Capone - vocally complete
  • Make Or Break - contains a reference vocal, backing vocals, and a scratch bridge
  • Turnin' Me Off - vocally incomplete
  • Streetwalker - vocally complete
  • I'm So Blue - vocally incomplete (?)
  • Free - vocally complete
  • Crack Kills - vocally complete without RUN-DMC rap
  • Saturday Woman - vocally incomplete
  • Price of Fame - vocally complete
  • Abortion Papers - vocally complete
  • Don't Be Messin' 'Round - vocally incomplete
  • Cheater - vocally complete
  • Be Me 4 A Day - status unknown
  • Get In To The Groove - status unknown
  • Someone Put Your Hand Out - vocally incomplete
  • Apocalypse Now - status unknown
  • Fly Away - vocally complete
  • Groove Of Midnight - status unknown
You could make an entire album just out of the vocally complete demos and get away with calling it "finished." And that's not even including the tenative demos for Liberian Girl, Dirty Diana, Smooth Criminal, and Leave Me Alone.
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While the majority of those songs might have vocals, they're not complete lyrically.......he hums and mumbles through a few
 
threepea11 said:
is my list good and accurate?
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It's 50/50, a lot of the titles there don't exist and we don't have info if they were recorded or not. Like A Baby Smiles was only ever reworked into a poem. I Am Your Joy, Spice Of Life, Pyramid Girl aren't real. Neverland Landing is from 1983 and not 1989. MJ's version of Alright Now was recorded in 1985 and so on.
 
I think the problem is we find out more new information on unreleased almost all the time lately, I remember back in the day we'd wait to hear a new nugget of information every nowand then, honestly I think that was more exciting.

I still remember the excitement of hearing what Don't Be Messin' Round sounds like after years of speculation. We don't really have that anymore

Anyway it appears if you're out of the loop for a couple of weeks, what was true then is proven to be false now or vice versa.
 
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