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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Kind of crazy how MJ thought The Verdict was good enough to be brought for 2 albums while songs like Dream Away, Al Capone, I'm So Blue, Hot Street and many others were forgotten right away lol.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Kind of crazy how MJ thought The Verdict was good enough to be brought for 2 albums while songs like Dream Away, Al Capone, I'm So Blue, Hot Street and many others were forgotten right away lol.
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Most of those are ballads. MJ loved his angular 90s rhythm.

Meanwhile where on Dangerous or Invincible would Hot Street fit?
 
AdeZ said:
Definitely from HIStory, however, I do believe MJ wrote BG's as in for he meant to go record BG's to the song, and not that BGV has been done.

The version we have of Verdict should be the final version of whatever it was supposed to be.
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I don't think that's the case. The version that leaked are multitrack mixes with stuff missing. It's likely that there's a more complete version that maybe even has (some) vocals.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Meanwhile where on Dangerous or Invincible would Hot Street fit?
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Just because it wouldn't fit it doesn't mean MJ should've forgotten about the songs entirely and not have tried anything new with them. In that sense how would a song like TYLA fit in the 2010's? Or Best Of Joy? Or Chicago 1945 and Cheater if they were in fact re-worked for Invincible? And yet they were still brought back anyways.
 
Scared of the Moon said:
I don't think that's the case. The version that leaked are multitrack mixes with stuff missing. It's likely that there's a more complete version that maybe even has (some) vocals.
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I did find it curious that there were two different mixes containing different things. They could indeed be mixdowns from a larger whole, just speculating, of course.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Just because it wouldn't fit it doesn't mean MJ should've forgotten about the songs entirely and not have tried anything new with them. In that sense how would a song like TYLA fit in the 2010's? Or Best Of Joy? Or Chicago 1945 and Cheater if they were in fact re-worked for Invincible? And yet they were still brought back anyways.
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The difference is we don't know anything about what MJ was planning on the 2010s. Maybe soundbites on 21st century Off The Wall/Dangerous. So it was all fair game really. I'm speaking with the hindsight of what Dangerous and Invincible was, what they ended up being. I am also being facetious so I don't mean to make you feel called out. It's rhetorical lol.

At the same time, Dangerous and Invincible as they ended up were radically different than what they started out as. Bryan Loren tracks and tons of MJ tracks brought to the new age century, versus basically new material made with current collaborators, Teddy, Rodney, etc. And that is basically how the 2006-2008 era stuff feels, in truth it would've probably ended up as more contemporary new stuff with Ne-Yo, Neff-U, and/or RedOne maybe. And some of the best material brought up and modernized like Dangerous the song.
 
ChanceToDance said:
There's another song called "I'm Peter Pan" that was made for the movie so it's pretty likely that it is.
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I believe there is also a song written by Buz Kohan for Spielberg's Peter Pan movie called 'Make A Wish', that could also be what he sings during the interview.

Did anyone ever asked Buz Kohan about his songs, where they are and when we will hear them :)

In the unauthorized 1983 interview not only does he sing about Peter Pan, he also acts like him (flying), I wonder how far Spielberg's project was involving MJ (seems like he was already rehearsing it) and if the project sparked MJ's obsession with Peter Pan/J.M. Barrie or that he liked it already before..
 
Victorious said:
Did anyone ever asked Buz Kohan about his songs, where they are and when we will hear them :)
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Buz has spoken to Joe Vogel and Mike Smallcombe about them. All that is known is that they were recorded between 1983-84, they’re similar in style to something like “Seeing Voices,” and at least two songs (“Make a Wish” and “Neverland Landing”) have vocals.

Someone I spoke with years ago said that “Neverland Landing” was fairly complete vocally and was very Disney-esque.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Buz has spoken to Joe Vogel and Mike Smallcombe about them. All that is known is that they were recorded between 1983-84, they’re similar in style to something like “Seeing Voices,” and at least two songs (“Make a Wish” and “Neverland Landing”) have vocals.

Someone I spoke with years ago said that “Neverland Landing” was fairly complete vocally and was very Disney-esque.
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Thank you! Funny, when I heard 'Seeing Voices' for the first time I actually expected some Disney-esque choirs at some point!
 
Question, do you know a place where I could find the Smooth a criminal Multitracks but cleaned up? Cause all the files are so messed up I don’t know how to clean it up myself
 
About the Google doc : Sunset Driver was rework in 1987 ? What is the source ?
 
So probably been talked about a thousand times before but I really love MJ's vocals on Drake's 'Don't Matter To Me'; they are almost 'Human Nature/Liberian Girl-esque'!

Did anyone ever hear the original (Paul Anka) recording? Does it have more verses? What is the rest like? Is it in any way releasable?
 
Alec said:
In the early days of Twitter (it must have been around the time Michael died), I asked Teddy Riley about it. He's the supposed producer and co-writer of On My Anger. He said he's never heard the title before. DEBUNKED.
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Do you know if there's any outtake of his from the Invincible sessions? 1/4th of the songs on the album comes from him so there's gotta be something, even if it's just a writer's demo.
 
docs.google.com

MJ Unreleased Songs list

docs.google.com docs.google.com

I did HIStory and BoTDF, anything to add or correct?

Also is the song "Are You Ready" real? its the 10th song on the unreleased wikipedia list. I doubt it is but making sure
 
threepea11 said:
docs.google.com

MJ Unreleased Songs list

docs.google.com docs.google.com

I did HIStory and BoTDF, anything to add or correct?

Also is the song "Are You Ready" real? its the 10th song on the unreleased wikipedia list. I doubt it is but making sure
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"Ashes to Ashes," "Dance On The Ceiling," and "Descending Angels" are from the Ghosts score. They are not unreleased, nor were they outtakes from BOTDF.
 
threepea11 said:
docs.google.com

MJ Unreleased Songs list

docs.google.com docs.google.com

I did HIStory and BoTDF, anything to add or correct?

Also is the song "Are You Ready" real? its the 10th song on the unreleased wikipedia list. I doubt it is but making sure
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-Christmas Star, Are You Ready and Murder are fake. I'm not sure about Fear, what's the source on that one?
-Innocent Man wasn't reworked in 2008. Maybe it was but for now it's not confirmed.
-You forgot about In The Back, Bombay Nights, Christmas Song (theme for Home Alone made in 1994), Ask DD, Ask Rene 3, The Best Thing and MJ's cover of Delilah.
-What SeriousFX said above, there were no songs made for BOTDF as everything on the album are leftovers from either Dangerous or HIStory. The songs you mentioned are from Ghosts.
 
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