Not the last time at all. Tracks 1-3 of the 2001 album which shall not be named.
All other NJS was synthetic. The Dangerous cuts sound warm and analog. Like real instruments/noises and not just soundboard stuff. Compare it to what Quincy Jones did with NJS, or Stevie Wonder, or even Prince. It's a huge divide.
I'ma keep debating you tho.
You're also getting rid of half of the African American music appeal that way. TBH, without Teddy, MJ would just be making pop music. Sure that's a heavy handed debate point, but just stop and think about it. What of these songs are getting played on BET and being danced to at Soultrain? Not Black or White or For All Time, that's for sure.
They sound like one very long song.
'She Drives Me Wild' should not have been included on the album as well.
It is interesting that the cassette is dated October 30,1986 because it means that it was most likely recorded at Westlake. The 1986 rough demo of Streetwalker is dated October 27, 1986, and is also a scratch vocal. A Hayvenhurst demo must exist for both of these songs, because we know that Turning Me Off and Streetwalker were both initially recorded in early 86’, and it may contain a stronger lead vocal.
It was Eddie Cascio who said MJ really liked the track, he wrote about it in his book.
What he said
It was Frank Cascio who wrote about it in his book, not Eddie Cascio.
Are you even allowed in this community?
One has to wonder what Michael Jackson was thinking, allowing me to be his fan.
Um yea no lmao get outta here
JGF and Speed Demon are not filled lmao, just because they weren’t widely released as singles doesn’t mean they were fillers
Sure thing!
I don’t agree with this line personally. “Unbreakable” and “Invincible” are similar in tempo, but I think they all stand out as individual songs. Some of the Riley tracks, great as they are, all feel like they all use the same templates.
Speed Demon is a single in my mind. A promo single anyway. With a video. And JGF is a fine tune.
Because he wanted to do all kinds of music, but above all it had to be 'fun'/family entertainment and in no way offend or exclude anyone. I think the car sounds are too corny as well, but in a way this song is more 'MJ' than any other song on the album (except for 'Heal The World' lol )
I don't think JGF is a filler too (again, MJ didn't believe in fillers) but an attempt to have another song like 'The Girl Is Mine'. And 'Ebony & Ivory' did well too; Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson: it could have been a hit
Actually, 'Just Good Friends' was an attempt to have another song like 'The Girl Is Mine' and 'P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)', according to Quincy Jones.
And it became a much inferior follow-up to the 'Speed Demon' song.
I totally agree but I don't think he himself saw it as a filler at all. Also I think the song could be so much better: all lead vocals (and basslines too) are muffled away on the Dangerous album and there are catchy elements hidden; under the rap part for instance
- Did he argue with MJ over this?She Drives Me Wild have incredible vocals. So does Speed Demon. And adding a bass line to the former wouldn’t necessarily be in its favour. It’s a song where the drums and percussion along with the vocals takes center stage. Just take the Dangerous demo, for an example, and compare it to the final version. In my opinion, the song work much better without the bass. It takes on a completely different, rawer character.
I wouldn’t say the bass lines are “muffled away” in, say, Remember the Time, Black or White, and Who Is It.
I would love to know the source of this statement. I’ve never heard Quincy said anything of the like about Just Good Friends, and honestly, I would be quite surprised if he has actually expressed regrets regarding it.
Very good points, which echoes my thoughts on the matter.
The car related sounds (along with Michael’s vocals) are exactly what makes the song! I fail to see what one could see as childish about these sounds, because sound experimentation sure shouldn’t make it so. Then I must ask: Is the sound of glass breaking in Jam childish, too?
With muffled away vocals and basslines I meant less dominant (than I was used to from MJ). I was generalizing a bit, the tracks you mention are much better yes. So I guess it's a conscious choice to mix down the vocals in the NJS tracks but then again RTT is also a NJS track, strange.
