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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1540812266396090368

Damien says this about "Don't Make Me Stay". Is there a deeper chance of more info, maybe a more refined version?
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When it comes to the bulk of songs registered in 2009 and 2010, I’d wager the USCO has the most up-to-date mixes. You’d assume MJ gave his collaborators the most recent versions up to that point, which would/should have the slew of available vocals. I can’t imagine he’d hand Neff-U a guide vocal of “Don’t Make Me Stay” if more existed, you know?
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1540812266396090368

Damien says this about "Don't Make Me Stay". Is there a deeper chance of more info, maybe a more refined version?
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Isn't that the same song where mj supposedly did background vocals for brandy?? I could've sworn I remember him singing "make me stay" on that track from darkchild...which I think was an mj song that was never finished & given to her like "why" was to 3t
 
AlwaysThere said:
When it comes to the bulk of songs registered in 2009 and 2010, I’d wager the USCO has the most up-to-date mixes. You’d assume MJ gave his collaborators the most recent versions up to that point, which would/should have the slew of available vocals. I can’t imagine he’d hand Neff-U a guide vocal of “Don’t Make Me Stay” if more existed, you know?
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Maybe. Maybe he didn't want leaks of the vocals?
 
wonderouzmj said:
Isn't that the same song where mj supposedly did background vocals for brandy?? I could've sworn I remember him singing "make me stay" on that track from darkchild...which I think was an mj song that was never finished & given to her like "why" was to 3t
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No, they are not the same

It's a song we haven't heard before
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1671478787178102784
"He’s just mumbling random words, including the words “don’t make me stay,” which is probably why it got that title. The song – the way I heard it – is useless for anything other than being released as an incomplete rough demo."
Sounds like "Don't Make Me Stay" might've been a working title. I wonder if the title was going to be changed if MJ wrote the song further.
 
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Hurley509 said:
Michael was apparently working on music during the lead up to This Is It including his usual pop music and classical music and jazz arrangements that were never intended to have vocals. These really should be shown to the fans, even if it accounts just for a vocal harmony on a voice recorder.
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I agree to an extent but it depends. I can't imagine the last thing he did was up to his own standard and if it was personal like, a vocal harmony idea on voice recorder, perhaps he wouldn't want the world to hear that.

As a fan I'm conflicted, I want to hear everything but then again at what point do we go against Michael (notoriously a perfectionist) wishes?

If it's a work tape for a released song and he sounds great on it (like Beat It or The Girl Is Mine) that's fair game and I want to hear it. But if he's humming into a tape and he sounds off key or intoxicated in the last few weeks of his life, that shouldn't be released.

Just my thoughts
 
I just heard on The Detail that Michael had done an entire soundtrack to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 2005, and that the producers did want to use the soundtrack but he decided against giving it to them because they wouldn't give him the lead role. So that's an EP of music out there in some vault somewhere too.
 
Hurley509 said:
I just heard on The Detail that Michael had done an entire soundtrack to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 2005, and that the producers did want to use the soundtrack but he decided against giving it to them because they wouldn't give him the lead role. So that's an EP of music out there in some vault somewhere too.
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If that's true then it's probably just a compilation of Instrumental Grooves for the movie. I don't think he recorded anything for that.
 
Hurley509 said:
I just heard on The Detail that Michael had done an entire soundtrack to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 2005, and that the producers did want to use the soundtrack but he decided against giving it to them because they wouldn't give him the lead role. So that's an EP of music out there in some vault somewhere too.
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Don’t bother wasting your time with that tabloid tripe The Detail lol

Absolute disgrace of a thing - videos full of lies & tabloid garbage at the expense of MJ so they can sell fake merch off the back of his image & revenue from clicks
 
The information about that soundtrack is true.

Music producer Marc Schaffel revealed that Michael Jackson secretly wrote a full soundtrack for the 'Charlie And The Chocolate Factory' film.

The singer later recorded it in a small recording studio in Los Angeles, and he sent it to Warner Bros. top executives who liked it.

Marc Schaffel listened to that soundtrack, and he even described it as incredible.
 
mj_frenzy said:
The information about that soundtrack is true.

Music producer Marc Schaffel revealed that Michael Jackson secretly wrote a full soundtrack for the 'Charlie And The Chocolate Factory' film.

The singer later recorded it in a small recording studio in Los Angeles, and he sent it to Warner Bros. top executives who liked it.

Marc Schaffel listened to that soundtrack, and he even described it as incredible.
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Yes, during Invincible session! This is explained in the book Making Michael by Mike Smallcombe.
 
dam2040 said:
Don’t bother wasting your time with that tabloid tripe The Detail lol

Absolute disgrace of a thing - videos full of lies & tabloid garbage at the expense of MJ so they can sell fake merch off the back of his image & revenue from clicks
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The Detail is fine?
 
dam2040 said:
I must be going insane. How on earth are they 'fine'

They put out videos questioning if Michael was gay, trans, you name it. Clickbait garbage
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They weren't "questioning" it.


It's literally just discussing the topic, with his own words. I didn't even watch it. Why are you making up stuff to get mad about?
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
The Detail is fine?
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I like the reviews of events in Michael's life over the year in Details, for example. Or compilations of interviews about him by other people. But sometimes they do touch on a lot of the tabloid headlines. As far as I know the Detail has changed ownership. The earlier issues were interesting to me and created by a different author. Now I really stopped watching it.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
They weren't "questioning" it.


It's literally just discussing the topic, with his own words. I didn't even watch it. Why are you making up stuff to get mad about?
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I highly suggest actually looking into them before thinking I'm 'making up stuff to get mad about.'

Plenty of fans strongly dislike the channel, and it's not for 'made up reasons'.
 
The soundtrack is just another thing we need to be on Sony about. There's plenty of his work that exists but it just seems they're deciding what we want to hear. To be honest, kinda done with the musicals. Only half care about the movie. Once we're past this let's get to see more of the work he did while he was alive FFS!
 
dam2040 said:
I highly suggest actually looking into them before thinking I'm 'making up stuff to get mad about.'

Plenty of fans strongly dislike the channel, and it's not for 'made up reasons'.
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I don't really care enough either way, I'm just saying, this topic I just didn't see anything inflammatory about. If you consider just mentioning it something off limits then I guess I get that, but it's gonna come up anyway.

With that said, they are bringing up some topics I don't enjoy and I could do with less of that. But it simply is what it is, most people have made up their minds.
 
Vogel seems certain Tomboy has vocals by the sounds of it. Interesting that Rocker might be pre 2005 as well.

I'm intrigued to see what makes the last songs so fascinating from a musical stand point, I remember Travis (from this forum) saying the last songs were hard to describe, they were like nothing Mike had done before
 
Hurley509 said:
I just heard on The Detail that Michael had done an entire soundtrack to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 2005, and that the producers did want to use the soundtrack but he decided against giving it to them because they wouldn't give him the lead role. So that's an EP of music out there in some vault somewhere too.
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Wow I hope they aren’t making this up 😲
 
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