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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Why isn’t there a tracker like this for MJ’s Music. Would be cool considering all of the unreleased material we have
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
It's Joe Vogel on Neverland Landing
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Oh he has the song? I wonder what else collectors have that we don't know about. I'm sure they have plenty of obscure songs since we know there are people who own the songs from the later years such as Michael's Affirmation, D.I.E, Rocker, Adore You, etc. I wonder how they even got ahold of that stuff on first place lol.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Oh he has the song? I wonder what else collectors have that we don't know about. I'm sure they have plenty of obscure songs since we know there are people who own the songs from the later years such as Michael's Affirmation, D.I.E, Rocker, Adore You, etc. I wonder how they even got ahold of that stuff on first place lol.
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Know people or get to know people through other people
 
I'm glad he answered my questions on twitter. Now we know exactly that these two songs are complete. I hope he will respond to my other tweets 🤞
 
SmoothMel7 said:
I'm glad he answered my questions on twitter. Now we know exactly that these two songs are complete. I hope he will respond to my other tweets 🤞
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Ask him please about happy song and Peter pan .I think Neverland landing is dream away
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Know people or get to know people through other people
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Right, but how do those people get the songs on first place? Auctions? Did the Sony servers have way more songs than the ones that got leaked? Is it someone who was involved in the production of the song giving them to people or are there more methods? How did people like Korgnex and jackson.ch come across the 2010 remix of WALWTG and some instrumental grooves from HIStory and Invincible? This whole thing goes so deep it's almost conspiratorial lol.
 
SmoothMel7 said:
I'm glad he answered my questions on twitter. Now we know exactly that these two songs are complete. I hope he will respond to my other tweets 🤞
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Has there been more info given recently? Twitter is locking tweets so I'm not able to check anymore... It would be great if those tweets were posted here more frequently since a lot of people aren't aware of them.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Right, but how do those people get the songs on first place? Auctions? Did the Sony servers have way more songs than the ones that got leaked? Is it someone who was involved in the production of the song giving them to people or are there more methods? How did people like Korgnex and jackson.ch come across the 2010 remix of WALWTG and some instrumental grooves from HIStory and Invincible? This whole thing goes so deep it's almost conspiratorial lol.
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I'd say there are various ways. If I'm not wrong, Mark Ronson's version of WALWTG came from the hack.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Did the Sony servers have way more songs than the ones that got leaked?
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Dude, it's the servers for one of the largest music companies in the world. Of course they'd have way more MJ stuff than what we've seen thus far.

Sony's lucky it was just the MJ stuff. Damn near every digitized multitrack, ProTools session, unreleased song, and alternate version from their artists' repitoire could've been already collected into a torrent and sold on the Deep Web.
 
SeriousFX said:
Dude, it's the servers for one of the largest music companies in the world. Of course they'd have way more MJ stuff than what we've seen thus far.

Sony's lucky it was just the MJ stuff. Damn near every digitized multitrack, ProTools session, unreleased song, and alternate version from their artists' repitoire could've been already collected into a torrent and sold on the Deep Web.
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Yeah the server leak seems to be the most likely method, but it's weird how the only things to have surfaced were 3 new songs - with 2 of them being outdated demos - and some old mixes of songs that were already released, and then nothing else after almost 10 years. The collectors must be really wary of leaks and keeping everything under lock and key lol
 
ChanceToDance said:
Yeah the server leak seems to be the most likely method, but it's weird how the only things to have surfaced were 3 new songs - with 2 of them being outdated demos - and some old mixes of songs that were already released, and then nothing else after almost 10 years. The collectors must be really wary of leaks and keeping everything under lock and key lol
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The collectors take better care than the estate. Smh
 
Lotfi11k said:
Ask him please about happy song and Peter pan .I think Neverland landing is dream away
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Joe Vogel said he'll check his notes on those two songs. And no, I confirm that Neverland Landing is not Dreams Away. Two very distinct songs.

ChanceToDance said:
Has there been more info given recently? Twitter is locking tweets so I'm not able to check anymore... It would be great if those tweets were posted here more frequently since a lot of people aren't aware of them.
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Recent information? No. Except that I'm sure Crack Kills is complete and Make Or Break is one of Joe Vogel's favorite songs. I do this research work for myself first and foremost and I make great finds. But I'll try to post some more of my (twitter) finds in the future 🙂
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Joe Vogel said he'll check his notes on those two songs. And no, I confirm that Neverland Landing is not Dreams Away. Two very distinct songs.



Recent information? No. Except that I'm sure Crack Kills is complete and Make Or Break is one of Joe Vogel's favorite songs. I do this research work for myself first and foremost and I make great finds. But I'll try to post some more of my (twitter) finds in the future 🙂
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But dream away lyrics start with world never Neverland .ask him about happy song and Peter pan maybe he did not notice that and ask him if tomboy have vocals.
Ask him which better dream away or Neverland landing because he have copie
 
I don't know whether this is a sign of me getting older or a sign that we've been starved of material this last decade, but fans vaguely revealing tidbits about unreleased songs they've heard is genuinely starting to grate on me.

It's nothing against anyone personally, but they kind of kill the magic of the whole thing, the more they reveal the less excitement there is and in the case of Chicago 1945, the demo couldn't match the near decade of hype surrounding it. Had that song just came out, without the build up, it would be much more talked about on here

To clarify this isn't aimed at anyone, espicially not on this forum, as I really appreciate my friend @AlwaysThere and @JohnC for their extensive research and insight in particular.
There just seems to be more fans in the know on twitter, who reveal very little about these songs besides how great they are and how they've heard it and we haven't.

Apologies for the long-winded rant 😅
 
Lotfi11k said:
But dream away lyrics start with world never Neverland .ask him about happy song and Peter pan maybe he did not notice that and ask him if tomboy have vocals.
Ask him which better dream away or Neverland landing because he have copie
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Yes I assure you that Tomboy has voices. You can skip on searching for another song!
 
Lotfi11k said:
But dream away lyrics start with world never Neverland .ask him about happy song and Peter pan maybe he did not notice that and ask him if tomboy have vocals.
Ask him which better dream away or Neverland landing because he have copie
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According to rumors, Neverland Landing is more like Seeing Voices if anything.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I don't know whether this is a sign of me getting older or a sign that we've been starved of material this last decade, but fans vaguely revealing tidbits about unreleased songs they've heard is genuinely starting to grate on me.

It's nothing against anyone personally, but they kind of kill the magic of the whole thing, the more they reveal the less excitement there is and in the case of Chicago 1945, the demo couldn't match the near decade of hype surrounding it. Had that song just came out, without the build up, it would be much more talked about on here

To clarify this isn't aimed at anyone, espicially not on this forum, as I really appreciate my friend @AlwaysThere and @JohnC for their extensive research and insight in particular.
There just seems to be more fans in the know on twitter, who reveal very little about these songs besides how great they are and how they've heard it and we haven't.

Apologies for the long-winded rant 😅
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Tbf the hype for C1945 was pretty hard to control. So many weirdos saying it was the undiscovered Smooth Criminal demo for a whole decade, that happens a lot, like the way people kept insisting they'd release Buffalo Bill or c1945 on Thriller 40 or that Who Do You Know was just another Behind the Mask demo. Which it was but still.

The whole MJ list of songs is a huge marker for unstoppable speculation based on misinformation.
 
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