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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

FlyAway0086 said:
Curious... how do you pick which titles to bring up next ? Spin a wheel ? Flip a coin ?
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oducer confirmed he "doesn't know if he [Michael] has completed his vocal parts", meaning he most likely didn't.

There's a song we made together, but I do not know if he has completed his vocal parts. It's called "Rise Above It All". It's a song I wrote and on which we worked. [...] It's an upbeat song. If you feel bad, if things are going wrong in the world, be positive and try to be as happy as possible, leaving aside all the negative things. Overcome negativity, go beyond the woes of the world, all wars, the starving children and all the bad things. Assemble yourselves, hold your hand, raise your hands to heaven and pass it all. It's a little theme song. I can not say whether he had recorded the song, but in any case, we worked on it. There are other songs on which they collaborated. Most of these songs are mid-tempo, but I can not say anything more.
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Hollywood_Tonight said:
The thing I don’t understand is how you have the multitracks to GOAL when there has been no evidence of them ever being in circulation. We’ve seen two different mixes of the demo- one with an intro and the other without. I also think it’s fair to assume that the leaked version is the most current one, since it’s from Theron Feemster’s seminar. Doesn’t make sense for him to play a rougher, earlier version of a song he produced if there is a more polished version.
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Not saying whether or not firmware-god is legit, but to play devil’s advocate, collectors have resources many of us could only dream of. Who here expected Korgnex to have “Changes,” for example? Just because we don’t know something is in circulation doesn’t mean that some lucky few don’t have it.

Also, wasn’t the GOAL leak from a Kingvention seminar with Thom Russo? I’ve never heard of Neff-U doing one.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Not saying whether or not firmware-god is legit, but to play devil’s advocate, collectors have resources many of us could only dream of. Who here expected Korgnex to have “Changes,” for example? Just because we don’t know something is in circulation doesn’t mean that some lucky few don’t have it.

Also, wasn’t the GOAL leak from a Kingvention seminar with Thom Russo? I’ve never heard of Neff-U doing one.
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This is actually recorded during the Kingvention seminar, with Tom Russo.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
I know this is a popular track, for good reason. I can't imagine he'll want to reveal who said what, though. Could lead back to him. As far as if material can/will be released or not, I think the first place to look is the Estate, and its track record.
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Yeah, it's a popular track, for good reason.
Let's NEVER release it !!!
Who utters those kind of ideas. And what would be the foolishness behind such an idea and speaking it out loud?
And why would this idea be presented to our friendly forum member?

I mean, if John Branca, thinks to himself "well, I'll f*ck this little MJ fans over by not releasing the good stuff, only the fake / bad quality stuff & things that they already have for a long time". That might be. But why would he tell it to our friendly forum member?

To me it seems clear what the "firmware-god" is trying to do (name also speaks for itself).
I won't deny that maybe he has something and he may also know a little something. (Though even that might be overestimating him..)

But he's defo trying to make more out of it than it really is.
Also the dramatization: He has the song... But we'll never hear it, because it will never get released!!

First he says he's not sharing anything. Then throwing some bread crumbs of knowledge, after he get's almost begged & preached to.
he enjoys making the forum giddy & wanting. I say: He's a little full of it.

Also he clearly is building up his knowledge just now or recently, case in point: The multitrack/stem confusion above.. plus asking forum members for song info via pm..
 
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firmware-god said:
It‘s very tough answering to your speculations.

I understand that you (and many more) are upset.

But ALL of you are asking the wrong question(s)!
Think about that.

I do not have any ties with the Estate.
My forum name was generated by a name generator many years ago.

Denying that a bit of fun is involved in this, would be a lie. But by no means does anyone need to beg. I simply gave a choice on what people wanted to hear about.

You are right about my knowledge in terms of music. This is a new world to me. Normally, I‘m only listening to recordings for myself and be happy about it. But the honest mistake of being confused about stems and multitracks may reside from the fact, that I am currently working in a very warm environment. And many answers I gave were written on my phone, while I was working. So please excuse me for mixing things up.

As I said before, asking for conversations in private isn’t wrong. It shows initiative. And in my culture it‘s the right thing to do.
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Yeah, still, that person you asked to go on DMs was me -- and I never got a response.
 
firmware-god said:
It‘s very tough answering to your speculations.

I understand that you (and many more) are upset.

But ALL of you are asking the wrong question(s)!
Think about that.

I do not have any ties with the Estate.
My forum name was generated by a name generator many years ago.

Denying that a bit of fun is involved in this, would be a lie. But by no means does anyone need to beg. I simply gave a choice on what people wanted to hear about.

You are right about my knowledge in terms of music. This is a new world to me. Normally, I‘m only listening to recordings for myself and be happy about it. But the honest mistake of being confused about stems and multitracks may reside from the fact, that I am currently working in a very warm environment. And many answers I gave were written on my phone, while I was working. So please excuse me for mixing things up.

As I said before, asking for conversations in private isn’t wrong. It shows initiative. And in my culture it‘s the right thing to do.
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It's because the Estate refuses Michael Prince songs that we will probably never listen to this song, right?
 
firmware-god said:
As I said before, asking for conversations in private isn’t wrong. It shows initiative. And in my culture it‘s the right thing to do.
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I already asked for conversation in private, and you gave me the run around, having butt all booty cheeks to say or offer.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
First he says he's not sharing anything …
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It seems people didn't pay much attention to what firmware-god actually has said. Which is sad as it can alienate new people in this community protecting their anonymity who would want to share certain things. Remember that trust is a two-way process.

If people feel it shouldn't take up this particular thread (which already has lots of posts degrading people), that's a simple problem to solve
 
Sensual visionary said:
It seems people didn't pay much attention to what firmware-god actually has said. Which is sad as it can alienate new people in this community protecting their anonymity who would want to share certain things. Remember that trust is a two-way process.

If people feel it shouldn't take up this particular thread (which already has lots of posts degrading people), that's a simple problem to solve
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Nah people are paying attention fine.
 
Sensual visionary said:
It seems people didn't pay much attention to what firmware-god actually has said. Which is sad as it can alienate new people in this community protecting their anonymity who would want to share certain things. Remember that trust is a two-way process.

If people feel it shouldn't take up this particular thread (which already has lots of posts degrading people), that's a simple problem to solve
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You fell for the bait.
 
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