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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

MJbr2 said:
Four. The 1986 demo (from the Brad leak), the 1987 mix by Quincy which almost made it, the 1988 Bill Bottrell remix (aka the officially released one) and an alternate version of the 1988 mix.
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Has the 1987 mix by Quincy ever been leaked?
 
MJbr2 said:
Four. The 1986 demo (from the Brad leak), the 1987 mix by Quincy which almost made it, the 1988 Bill Bottrell remix (aka the officially released one) and an alternate version of the 1988 mix.
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Five, working title Florida Groove
 
This 'Streetwalker' talk made me go back to Bad 25.

It's really a testament to how strong the era was that even the Estate couldn't mess up the anniversary release.

I mean, the album itself would be the greatest hits of almost anyone - to MJ it was just another album.

Al Capone, Free, Price of Fame, Abortion Papers.. such a good release.
 
dam2040 said:
This 'Streetwalker' talk made me go back to Bad 25.

It's really a testament to how strong the era was that even the Estate couldn't mess up the anniversary release.

I mean, the album itself would be the greatest hits of almost anyone - to MJ it was just another album.

Al Capone, Free, Price of Fame, Abortion Papers.. such a good release.
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I'm so blue . .don't be messing around
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Weird how they weren't able to put it in record this early on.. things with Quincy weren't even south yet. Why choose it?
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What exactly do you mean? Keep in mind that the leaked Sundberg mix from October 1986 is just a WIP version.
 
dam2040 said:
This 'Streetwalker' talk made me go back to Bad 25.

It's really a testament to how strong the era was that even the Estate couldn't mess up the anniversary release.

I mean, the album itself would be the greatest hits of almost anyone - to MJ it was just another album.

Al Capone, Free, Price of Fame, Abortion Papers.. such a good release.
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And to think the Estate has already released an album's worth of outtakes from that era and it still has SO much more content to offer (Make Or Break, Chicago 1945, Buffalo Bill, Tomboy, Changes, Turning Me Off, etc). It's one of the most fascinating periods in MJ's career that's for sure.
 
ChanceToDance said:
And to think the Estate has already released an album's worth of outtakes from that era and it still has SO much more content to offer (Make Or Break, Chicago 1945, Buffalo Bill, Tomboy, Changes, Turning Me Off, etc). It's one of the most fascinating periods in MJ's career that's for sure.
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It's even more fascinating that MJ kept returning to his 80s stuff on a regular basis.
 
ChanceToDance said:
And to think the Estate has already released an album's worth of outtakes from that era and it still has SO much more content to offer (Make Or Break, Chicago 1945, Buffalo Bill, Tomboy, Changes, Turning Me Off, etc). It's one of the most fascinating periods in MJ's career that's for sure.
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Turning me off .tomboy .changes .and even what you do to me no evidence if verses recorded maybe they are only mumbling
 
I hope everyone know sthat they are going to milk the released demos for all they are worth, take Al Capone for instance, we still havent heard the JB mix or the Roger Troutman mix. think about the elements left out of other, more important outtakes.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
…it was a great time to be a fan mate. Bad 25 was a fantastic release.
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Not that I don’t agree with you, but that take is almost a revision of how it played out when Bad25 was actually released.
The project was almost as hated on as the MICHAEL album.
And I see the same happening with the movie.. I don’t see ALL or even the biggest part of mjFam coming together and pushing & supporting a MJ project/release.. Unfortunately!!!
 
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Beano Wild said:
I hope everyone know sthat they are going to milk the released demos for all they are worth, take Al Capone for instance, we still havent heard the JB mix or the Roger Troutman mix. think about the elements left out of other, more important outtakes.
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If Sony/Estate are going to reissue Bad in same way they've treated T40, then expect something like this:

  1. Cheater
  2. Throwing Your Life Away
  3. Someone Put Your Hand Out
  4. Streetwalker (if we're lucky it'll be its finalized mix)
  5. APOM (1985 EO mix)
  6. Chicago 1945
  7. IJCSLY (solo mix)
  8. We Are Here To Change The World
  9. We Are The World (solo demo)
  10. Scared of the Moon
  11. Chicago 1945 (new Porcaro mix)
Basicly, the leaks and previously released stuff from TUC.
 
MJJuniorSinceMW said:
Not that I don’t agree with you, but that take is almost a revision of how it played out when Bad25 was actually released.
The project was almost as hated on as the MICHAEL album.
And I see the same happening with the movie.. I don’t see ALL or even the biggest part of mjFam coming together and pushing & supporting a MJ project/release.. Unfortunately!!!
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Well people really hated that Afrojack Mix of Bad. The pitbull version especially. And the estate pushed that way more, and it was accordingly kinda awful lol. But I didn't Care. Because it was actually awesome to me haha.
 
Fuzball said:
What exactly do you mean? Keep in mind that the leaked Sundberg mix from October 1986 is just a WIP version.
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So the way they progressed, they just downplayed that early polish. Interesting.

I'm talking about 1987 mix. Why wasn't that on a Bad special edition or TUC?
 
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SmoothGangsta said:
I don't hate the released version of Streetwalker, but I definitely enjoy the vibe of the demo more and that lq leak seems to be the best of both.

Definitely something I've been wanting to hear in HQ for a long time now.
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I think at this point you're either in the Streetwalker or APOM camp lol. I like both, but definitely one more.
 
Beano Wild said:
I hope everyone know sthat they are going to milk the released demos for all they are worth, take Al Capone for instance, we still havent heard the JB mix or the Roger Troutman mix. think about the elements left out of other, more important outtakes.
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So far we've gotten about 4 songs released twice in 20 years... The Way You Love Me, This Is It, Best of Joy, and Behind The Mask. Maybe there's others.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
So the way they progressed, they just downplayed that early polish. Interesting.

I'm talking about 1987 mix. Why wasn't that on a Bad special edition or TUC?
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The officially released version is Bottrell's 1988 mix.


Well, I know for sure the version we hear on Bad Re-issue was done between Bad and Dangerous, while Michael was on tour.

What is heard on the Streetwalker release is my rough mix from Smoketree.
I played the horns, (samples) drums, bass, and guitars, and Jasun Martz came in to do the blues harp.
Here is why I'm shocked that some of my roughs have been released: There was a process that I learned well, that any MJ release went through: a process of vetting, re-thinking, replacing midi with live players, etc. It was a long process. "Streetwalker" never did that. Nor did "Come Together". I doubt I ever made an analog mix of Streetwalker, somebody just took it from the DAT.
 
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