The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[Sensual visionary]

Another list of songs from Dangerous.

I don’t want to add to confusion, but …
The title Get Up makes me think of James Brown.

I have somehow gotten the impression (from the estate?) that the poem Planet Earth was meant as an introduction to and the title of 1991 Earth Song.

… 'Lying To Myself' is most probably 'Who Is It' (?)

Apparently true from this list.

 

[Fuzball]

I think Shana said that “Get Up” is “Jam,” she just didn’t know the title and went based off the intro.

then why is Jam & Get up on the same list?

 

[Derek1984]

I don’t want to add to confusion, but …
The title Get Up makes me think of James Brown.

I have somehow gotten the impression (from the estate?) that the poem Planet Earth was meant as an introduction to and the title of 1991 Earth Song.


Apparently true from this list.

I Can't Let Her Get Away is very James Brown sounding, but I doubt it's any correlation to "Get Up".

 

[NetflexKing]

I think Shana said that “Get Up” is “Jam,” she just didn’t know the title and went based off the intro.

This doesn't make sense since both of them are on the list. I guess she messed that up.

 

[Derek1984]

Another list of songs from Dangerous. Interesting to see Get Up on there when Shana first said it was Jam.

Another thing to add.... Men In Black is on this list which started with Bryan Loren. Yet at the bottom, Loren gets not production credit. So did Teddy Riley or Bill Bottrell work further on the song to give them production credit? I would think so, just by looking at this.

This is like a puzzle.

 

[Saka21]

I’m wondering why 'Boots Groove' doesn't show up on any of the lists. I’m pretty sure it's a track from that time, if I remember right.

If Brad got his hands on it, it probably means they didn't work on it just once.

 

[Victorious]

I Can't Let Her Get Away is very James Brown sounding, but I doubt it's any correlation to "Get Up".

Well it's intro was inspired by 'Get Up':

and it also used another 'get up'-song from James Brown: it sampled some horns from 'Get up offa that thing':

 

[BlackAnon]

I don't think any of the unreleased songs n Shana's list were more complete than what we've already heard. This is probably just his list of songs before trimming it down to start working on what's making the album.

 

[BlackAnon]

This "new" list is a really interesting insight into the Dangerous album. Michael seemed to have an abundance of songs to pick from before Teddy's instrumentals were presented/worked on.

Similar to that leaked Brad Sundberg video of Monkey Business, I wonder if more complete versions of some songs that didn't make it exist?
Serious Effect and Man In Black in particular. This list seems to pre date Teddy's contribution

That MB in the Brad leak is the same version we have, they're just playing with the multi tracks

 

[Victorious]

That MB in the Brad leak is the same version we have, they're just playing with the multi tracks

Might be, but the voice-box stuff you hear in that video is definitely Teddy Riley, so he must have been buried in the final mix too

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Well it's intro was inspired by 'Get Up':

and it also used another 'get up'-song from James Brown: it sampled some horns from 'Get up offa that thing':

And people insist that this song is mediocre lol. Top 3 on Dangerous

 

[Derek1984]

And people insist that this song is mediocre lol. Top 3 on Dangerous

I think part of the problem is it's the sixth uptempo New Jack song in a row on the album so it kind of gets lost.

 

[BlackAnon]

I think part of the problem is it's the sixth uptempo New Jack song in a row on the album so it kind of gets lost.

Agreed. The songs start to merge together after a while and I tend to skip it

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

I think part of the problem is it's the sixth uptempo New Jack song in a row on the album so it kind of gets lost.

That may be true and I can agree with that. But Off The Wall gave us 5 disco tracks in a row so I see it as a homage/throwback. The first half is for the dance floor.

 

[firmware-god]

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[firmware-god]

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[mjfan_93]

Yeah, sounds like he is. The multis for MB are pretty cool to play with as well.

Vocally complete (enough)?

 

[firmware-god]

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[Clay7]

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[BlackAnon]

There's at least 5 different track listings going around for Dangerous but it's cool how he was constantly switching titles out

 

[Victorious]

A question in between; a lot of notes seem to be directed to an assistant(?) named 'Candy', any info on her..?

 

[Fuzball]

"What You Do To Me" and "Bad Girl" have been recorded/mixed by Bill Bottrell at Hayvenhurst.


They both appear in my journals. I don't remember how the songs go. It was just a day or two. Never fleshed out. Maybe some vocals, I don't know.

 

[JustinC2002]

"What You Do To Me" and "Bad Girl" have been recorded/mixed by Bill Bottrell at Hayvenhurst.


They both appear in my journals. I don't remember how the songs go. It was just a day or two. Never fleshed out. Maybe some vocals, I don't know.

So it sounds like Bad Girl could be early Bad

 

[Derek1984]

So it sounds like Bad Girl could be early Bad

I don't think so. I'm guessing Bad Girl is a totally different song.

 

[Fuzball]

I don't think so. I'm guessing Bad Girl is a totally different song.

The initial instrumental of what became Bad was called "P." (mistakenly refered to by Bruce Sweden as "Pee").

"P." for "Prince".

 

[AlwaysThere]

Pretty certain “Bad” and “Bad Girl” are two completely different songs. One word commonality doesn’t mean anything, especially since “girl” makes no sense in comparison.

 

[dethorro]

So it sounds like Bad Girl could be early Bad

Not every song title that is similar to another is an early version of that song. Especially in this case, where the word ”girl” has literally zero connection to the song Bad.

 

[Derek1984]

I wonder if What You Do To Me morphed into I Like The Way That You Love Me... Hasn't there been some discussion regarding that before?

 

[JustinC2002]

I wonder if What You Do To Me morphed into I Like The Way That You Love Me... Hasn't there been some discussion regarding that before?

No it's a Bad demo. Hanson morphed into ILTWTYLM

 

[Fuzball]

I wonder if What You Do To Me morphed into I Like The Way That You Love Me... Hasn't there been some discussion regarding that before?

From Damien:

The 1985 registration is a different song to the Invincible sessions song. The track titled “What You Do To Me,” which was registered at the copyright office in 1998, is actually The Way You Love Me.

The 1998 What You Do To Me filing is an early demo of The Way You Love Me. The version I heard had primitive production and only had scratch vocals on the chorus (no verse vocal). However, a lyric sheet for the complete song was also enclosed. MJ is scatting/yodelling at the end.