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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

My guess for releases in the near future is: In april we get a new album with the release of the movie. Most likely it is just a best of album, as the biopic will of course focus on the big hits. Maybe they will use in the biopic some demos in scence where Michael is writting or recording stuff, so maybe we will get a few new demos. If we are lucky, we will get one new song as well. So i guess for this album we can get at best an album similar to This is it. If the movie is succesful and a new MJ hype is created, there will be a new album for sure. I think the estate plans something in the background. And this album will come out at latest a year after the movie, they will want to use the movie promo for the album
 
MKTCREATE said:
Does anyone know if this is real or AI?
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If we do get another album, just put Quincy on board at this point. The Estate can certainly afford him. Get Quincy, Matt, Michael and whoever else that worked with Michael at one point. Not interested in producers that never worked with him. Contact Barnes' people and work on getting that material as well.
 
BlackAnon said:
If we do get another album, just put Quincy on board at this point. The Estate can certainly afford him.
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Quincy is like 102 years old, he's not producing any new MJ posthumous album. And it probably wouldn't be very good if he did.

The Timbaland productions on Xscape were great. They could get him back.
 
kreen said:
Quincy is like 102 years old,
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He's 91.

kreen said:
he's not producing any new MJ posthumous album. And it probably wouldn't be very good if he did.
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I don't what state of health he's in these days or if he's still active with creative projects. I think he had a Color Purple related project out last year.

BlackAnon said:
Quincy still has the ear for music. He also holds the key to the unreleased music from Thriller and Bad.
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BlackAnon said:
If we do get another album, just put Quincy on board at this point. The Estate can certainly afford him. Get Quincy, Matt, Michael and whoever else that worked with Michael at one point. Not interested in producers that never worked with him. Contact Barnes' people and work on getting that material as well.
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At this stage in his life, I don't think Quincy would have any interest working on a project with unreleased material. The only way he's getting involved is if the Estate pays him to get access to whatever he has that is unreleased.

Matt Forger was already involved in BAD25.

The Estate probably has just about everything that was worked on with Barnes.
 
BlackAnon said:
If we do get another album, just put Quincy on board at this point. The Estate can certainly afford him. Get Quincy, Matt, Michael and whoever else that worked with Michael at one point. Not interested in producers that never worked with him. Contact Barnes' people and work on getting that material as well.
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To deride Branca and accept Quincy with open arms is certainly a choice.

He already made up his mind on this subject anyway. Doubt he's changed it

www.billboard.com

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson’s ‘Xscape’: ‘It’s About Money’

Jones' comments were broadcast in a candid interview in which he reflects on his “amazing times†with Ray Charles, his lack of fear (except with driving) and a near-death experience.
www.billboard.com www.billboard.com
 
BlackAnon said:
If we do get another album, just put Quincy on board at this point. The Estate can certainly afford him.
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It's not as easy as that, letting aside the beef he has with the Estate he went on record a few times saying he's against posthumous releases.
www.billboard.com

Quincy Jones On Michael Jackson’s ‘Xscape’: ‘It’s About Money’

Jones' comments were broadcast in a candid interview in which he reflects on his “amazing times†with Ray Charles, his lack of fear (except with driving) and a near-death experience.
www.billboard.com www.billboard.com

Producer of posthumous Michael Jackson album slams Quincy Jones

Teddy Riley claims criticism of 'Michael' is 'disappointing'
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Given his views I don't doubt he has something written on his will that prevents the posthumous release of any material he owns.
 
SeriousFX said:
Quincy's really adamant about holding onto session tapes for albums produced by him. It's why the slave tapes for George Benson's "Give Me The Night" album were never transferred, and why we've never really heard of any outtakes for OTW-Bad that weren't already known.
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Source: trust me bro

I’m sure the estate pulled out the slave tapes for The Toy/She’s Trouble/whatever else from Quincy’s secret vault to be able to release it on Thriller 40. (This is sarcasm, my point is we don’t need the slaves to get a release) Also we know now that the entire Thriller, Off The Wall and Bad albums, etc. (At least released songs) was transferred because they are leaked or were shown online 😭. We even had a tape transfer of an EARLY VERSION of I can’t help it leak online lmao.

Also wasn’t there some story about MJ losing the tapes to Scared of the Moon and the only reason we were able to hear the song is because they had a downmix on a casette that they overdubbed with strings, if giving the tapes to MJ meant them getting lost, no wonder Quincy would’ve wanted to keep them safe lmao. If that’s actually true anyway.

Still, we know that the important released stuff was transferred, so I don’t see why Q would be holding on to demo slaves, as if that even matters for a release. Maybe if they went the Xscape remix route again and needed them for vocals only lmao
 
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GYWOOM said:
I’m sure the estate pulled out the slave tapes for The Toy/She’s Trouble/whatever else from Quincy’s secret vault to be able to release it on Thriller 40. (This is sarcasm, my point is we don’t need the slaves to get a release)
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No shot. Listen to those songs—the quality is pitiful, at least for a 2022 release. If you told me they pulled those from whatever cassette they had on hand, I’d 100% believe you.
 
SeriousFX said:
Quincy's really adamant about holding onto session tapes for albums produced by him. It's why the slave tapes for George Benson's "Give Me The Night" album were never transferred, and why we've never really heard of any outtakes for OTW-Bad that weren't already known.
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I’m very curious what Quincy and Bruce have in their possession. Marcos Cabota mentioned seeing Bruce’s tape collection and said “there’s alot of stuff fans would love” there.
 
AlwaysThere said:
No shot. Listen to those songs—the quality is pitiful, at least for a 2022 release. If you told me they pulled those from whatever cassette they had on hand, I’d 100% believe you.
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Idk wtf they did. Carousel from "The Ultimate Fan Extras Collection" sounds way better despite being "lower quality".

Branca must've remastered it himself in Audacity
 
GYWOOM said:
Idk wtf they did. Carousel from "The Ultimate Fan Extras Collection" sounds way better despite being "lower quality".

Branca must've remastered it himself in Audacity
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“Carousel,” “Sunset Driver,” and “Can’t Get Outta the Rain” all sound horrible. I can’t wrap my mind around it. They’ve all been released previously! They were already properly mixed and mastered! Just take those and put them on the album!
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Carousel,” “Sunset Driver,” and “Can’t Get Outta the Rain” all sound horrible. I can’t wrap my mind around it. They’ve all been released previously! They were already properly mixed and mastered! Just take those and put them on the album!
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I like how Sunset Driver sounds on T40 :/
 
I’m excited for when we get Chicago 1945, because I find the original vocals to be amazing, but the instrumental is just so boring to me. It kind of reminds me of Best of Joy, the remix truly elevated the song imo. If c45 comes out on a album, I’d like it to be produced by Brody brown because he has made some really good 80’s synth inspired songs (24k magic)
 
Inthestudiowithmj said:
I’m excited for when we get Chicago 1945, because I find the original vocals to be amazing, but the instrumental is just so boring to me. It kind of reminds me of Best of Joy, the remix truly elevated the song imo. If c45 comes out on a album, I’d like it to be produced by Brody brown because he has made some really good 80’s synth inspired songs (24k magic)
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I agree C45 sounds boring. It's a cool song for what it is but it's very repetitive to me
 
GYWOOM said:
Source: trust me bro

I’m sure the estate pulled out the slave tapes for The Toy/She’s Trouble/whatever else from Quincy’s secret vault to be able to release it on Thriller 40. (This is sarcasm, my point is we don’t need the slaves to get a release) Also we know now that the entire Thriller, Off The Wall and Bad albums, etc. (At least released songs) was transferred because they are leaked or were shown online 😭. We even had a tape transfer of an EARLY VERSION of I can’t help it leak online lmao.

Also wasn’t there some story about MJ losing the tapes to Scared of the Moon and the only reason we were able to hear the song is because they had a downmix on a casette that they overdubbed with strings, if giving the tapes to MJ meant them getting lost, no wonder Quincy would’ve wanted to keep them safe lmao. If that’s actually true anyway.

Still, we know that the important released stuff was transferred, so I don’t see why Q would be holding on to demo slaves, as if that even matters for a release. Maybe if they went the Xscape remix route again and needed them for vocals only lmao
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Whatever is solely written and produced by Michael is likely in the possession of The Estate and anything else from an outside writer and producer is likely with that collaborator.

The Toy was a demo for the Richard Pryor movie and Michael scrapped the song because it cut into him recording Thriller but since it was solely written and produced by Michael, The Estate had it. She's Trouble is interesting because T40 says produced by Quincy but Musical Youth's version says produced by Peter Collins. Similar production but I do wonder how they got around Quincy if he didn't sign off and it wasn't scheduled to be released on anything else
 
SeriousFX said:
Quincy's really adamant about holding onto session tapes for albums produced by him. It's why the slave tapes for George Benson's "Give Me The Night" album were never transferred, and why we've never really heard of any outtakes for OTW-Bad that weren't already known.
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What about the Outtakes / Demos from Bad 25 then?
 
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