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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Eventidescape1 said:
Even so, Michael was reluctant to use songs from other writers on Bad (save for JGF and MITM). Unlike previous albums.

Perhaps he did a quick multitrack demo of it.
Like Quincy used to do on Thriller, creating "polaroids" - a quick recording of a song to test out the arrangements before developing further. Basically a studio demo. But I don't see Michael being that keen on GOM.
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I don't think he was against using other songwriters. Wasn't it Quincy that pushed Michael to write more on Bad?

GOM is good but I don't think it would've fit the album with Liberian Girl and IJCSLY on there. It's also a possibility Michael only did background vocals for the song and never intended to record his own version
 
BlackAnon said:
I don't think he was against using other songwriters. Wasn't it Quincy that pushed Michael to write more on Bad?

GOM is good but I don't think it would've fit the album with Liberian Girl and IJCSLY on there. It's also a possibility Michael only did background vocals for the song and never intended to record his own version
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That would be true if Rod Temperton had already decided it was going to Siedah Garrett (or some other artist) and just had Michael on BG's...

But Rod has passed away nearly a decade ago so what do we know.
 
BlackAnon said:
I don't think he was against using other songwriters. Wasn't it Quincy that pushed Michael to write more on Bad?

GOM is good but I don't think it would've fit the album with Liberian Girl and IJCSLY on there. It's also a possibility Michael only did background vocals for the song and never intended to record his own version
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Agree GOM would not have fit the BAD album.

But that song with MJ vocals would be magical. Rod has a special way with his songwriting and arrangements.
 
Derek1984 said:
I'm guessing there is a demo with MJ's vocals. Probably happened right at the beginning of recording at Westlake. Rod probably had a couple songs ready and GOM was one of them MJ put vocals on.

Probably got discarded early. But I would think Rod still stayed for a while at Westlake and helped with some arrangements on songs.
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It probably wasn’t at the beginning of recording at Westlake, since Temperton mentions Michael’s hair being much longer than the last time they saw each other “in October”. I think it’s fair to say he was talking about October 1986, since Michael’s hair was indeed shorter than later on when he was shooting the Bad short film. So this session would have probably been around January-February 1987, perhaps?
 
I recently read that the video for "Who is It" was lost and before that there was a compilation of videos to the music, but why was it considered lost if it was officially released on a compilation of videos in 2010?
 
GotThis said:
I recently read that the video for "Who is It" was lost and before that there was a compilation of videos to the music, but why was it considered lost if it was officially released on a compilation of videos in 2010?
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because an alternate version (the clip compilation) was serviced to the USA while the actual video was confined to international countries after its initial airing (if it even aired at all) - possibly due to MJ's dissatisfaction with how it turned out.

It was never considered lost, just extremely rare and hard to come by.
 
threepea11 said:
Does anyone know if Michael actually recorded the California Raisin Grapevine song? Considering he recorded HBL, wouldn’t he have recorded IHITTGV?
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I don't think he recorded it as the song was used in previous California Raisin commercials but he did sneak in a "whoooo!" without Pepsi knowing.

Happy Birthday, Lisa was written by him so it's safe to assume he would record a version.
 
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BlackAnon said:
I don't think he recorded it as the song was used in previous California Raisin commercials but he did sneak in a "whoooo!" without Pepsi knowing.

Happy Birthday, Lisa was written by him so it's safe to assume he would record a version.
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Maybe he did do guide vocals for the voice impersonator since he also did some guide dancing for the Raisins, right..?
 
I'm very sure he recorded his own version. That's the same guy from the jacksons (adult mj voice) & the Simpsons non talking voice (also lisa is your birthday) never knew mj had recorded his own version until it 1st leaked. I forgot the guys name kipp something. But I'm sure mj has a grapevine version of his own somewhere! I doubt he was mouthing an impersonators voice here!
 
Will Vinton worked extensively with reference footage, so I wouldn’t be surprised if MJ was filmed for the entire Raisin project, including this spoof interview:


If it was first recorded by MJ, this interview would have been dubbed over by Kipp Lennon after the fact, like the commercial
 
wonderouzmj said:
I'm very sure he recorded his own version. That's the same guy from the jacksons (adult mj voice) & the Simpsons non talking voice (also lisa is your birthday) never knew mj had recorded his own version until it 1st leaked. I forgot the guys name kipp something. But I'm sure mj has a grapevine version of his own somewhere! I doubt he was mouthing an impersonators voice here!
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There's a Michael version of Lisa because he wrote and produced the song for the episode.

Not saying there's not a Michael version of Grapevine but the song was used in earlier commercials so it's not hard to get an impersonator to sing those lyrics. The audio hasn't leaked from Michael's rehearsal footage so we don't know what version he was lipping to or he could've been singing it on the spot for facial movements for the claymation
 
BlackAnon said:
There's a Michael version of Lisa because he wrote and produced the song for the episode.

Not saying there's not a Michael version of Grapevine but the song was used in earlier commercials so it's not hard to get an impersonator to sing those lyrics. The audio hasn't leaked from Michael's rehearsal footage so we don't know what version he was lipping to or he could've been singing it on the spot for facial movements for the claymation
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That's what I was thinking. I just still don't see mj mouthing to someone else for this. He probably didn't know at the time he wasn't legally allowed to use his own voice which was so stupid because I've never seen another artist not use thier own voice for their own representation...
 
wonderouzmj said:
That's what I was thinking. I just still don't see mj mouthing to someone else for this. He probably didn't know at the time he wasn't legally allowed to use his own voice which was so stupid because I've never seen another artist not use thier own voice for their own representation...
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He was in contract with Pepsi at the time and wasn't allowed to use his singing voice on anything unrelated to the company
 
Fuzball said:
That's correct, yet it would be great to know what songs exactly made it to Westlake.
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There's the 11 that made it in, Streetwalker, Groove Of Midnight, and according to Bruce Najar's book, Quincy actually started work on a Westlake version of Chicago 1945 that got abandoned not long after it got started.

Bill, Matt, and John also showed off Don't Be Messin' 'Round, the Pepsi version of Price Of Fame, and Crack Kills at Westlake.
 
SeriousFX said:
There's the 11 that made it in, Streetwalker, Groove Of Midnight, and according to Bruce Najar's book, Quincy actually started work on a Westlake version of Chicago 1945 that got abandoned not long after it got started.

Bill, Matt, and John also showed off Don't Be Messin' 'Round, the Pepsi version of Price Of Fame, and Crack Kills at Westlake.
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can you please see the dm I sent you
 
MJ played a couple songs to Rod Temperton in 2008. Best of Joy for example. Do we know if these alternate lyrics were written by / with Rod Temperton? Maybe thats the reason why they choose to not include those in the 2010 version?!

https://imgur.com/a/2VsjGjd
 
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