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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

^ You're welcome. Also regarding HCW: The changes aren't limited to sound quality and just a few ad-libs, it has different takes (and yes, he is straining his voice on this recording, there's no Melodyne), different backing, different mixing.

Regarding sound quality: If anyone remembers the audiophile mastering of "Butterflies" that I have shared in 2010 IIRC (NOT from the DAT), that gives you an idea of the kind of level the recordings originally sounded like - more comparable to the HIStory album. The same applies to the "new" tracks that were released on BAD 25, their original masters had lots of dynamics, too.
 
Beano Wild said:
I think it’s so highly under wraps that the snoop dog team can’t get it, I think some collectors have the opportunity to get it but they literally need to sign NDAs to get a copy/to hear it
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How would they even get near that? 😭
 
Imagine if Seven Digits leaks just to screw over that guy selling it for $50,000 on eBay lol

Has anyone ever tried to ask the seller if he can share a snippet?
 
Think Twice could be nice.
"Think Twice" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the scrapped late 2000s project. On October 27, 2025, a LQ snippet of the song was leaked online. ( listen)
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Think Twice

"Think Twice" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the scrapped late 2000s project. On October 27, 2025, a LQ snippet of the song was leaked online. ( listen) The song was registered with the U.S. Copyright Office in 2010, with Brad Buxer being listed as the producer.[1]...
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Hot_Street said:
Think Twice could be nice.

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Think Twice

"Think Twice" is an unreleased song by Michael Jackson intended for the scrapped late 2000s project. On October 27, 2025, a LQ snippet of the song was leaked online. ( listen) The song was registered with the U.S. Copyright Office in 2010, with Brad Buxer being listed as the producer.[1]...
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How do we even remotely know this is real?😅
 
I'd like to hear more demos from 1980-1985 as I feel like those were the golden years of Michael's creativity and voice. Maybe a raw ballad demo like Love Never Felt So Good or I Never Heard, or a beautiful track like Dream Away or Neverland Landing. I'd like to hear Make A Wish but if its not in the copyright office, chances are we might not hear it. I believe most of these unreleased snippets come from the Sony data breach from way back, crazy how most of the content from then is leaking years later.
 
Pentum said:
How do we even remotely know this is real?😅
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because it is on the leak list:
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List of leaked songs

This is an ongoing list of all songs by American singer-songwriter Michael Jackson that leaked over the years. Please note that this includes not only unreleased songs, but demos for already released material. The first online leaks reportedly date back to the late 1990s-early 2000s, when songs...
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The MJJ Library said:
I believe most of these unreleased snippets come from the Sony data breach from way back, crazy how most of the content from then is leaking years later.
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No, the Sony server "hack" is a myth regarding what tracks were obtained from there. It's not true that material is being held back from back then. It has all leaked.

Regarding the recent snippet rampage, it's a mixture of these four facts:
1) A combined effort of ripping off MJ's famous B-team: Brad Buxer, Michael Prince & Brad Sundberg. Basically every song Brad Sundberg has ever played - including "VIP ticket" material - has been secretly recorded with professional devices. Sometimes people even picked off the cables that were connecting the speakers for the audience.

2) There's a collector who has been streaming entire multi-tracks. People were - of course - recording them. Leaks have happened from that. The guy also played some songs. That material is being circulated.

3) There's another collector who did phone calls in which he played stuff. And - of course - people were recording that, too.

4) A combined effort of people that obtained material from #1 - 3, trying to obtain more from other individuals, preferably those who are not aware of #1 -3.

And it leads to false facts collected by people not in the know. I mean fans who are tracking data about real items and such. Without naming someone, I read a comment by someone who's reading here, having decided that the DAT would be real because of the leak. That's the result of spreading misinformation and it's just wrong - for those who care about what an actual source material would be - if it exists - , I mean.

That's why I came here to point out - for example - that the TYLA DAT is a forgery. The track that leaked is not sourced from this item, the auction was a total scam - for those who care about such things.
 
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NetflexKing said:
I disagree. We got previews of songs that people were planning to spend thousands of dollars just to listen to once at the U.S. Copyright Office. Also, there was a period between 2015 and 2017 when the closest thing to a leak was the fake “Bottle of Smoke” snippet. I’ll take the win whenever I can.
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Nah that's some crackhead mentality. You people are literal fiends
Have a full song to show me or go eat a 12-gauge
 
Korgnex said:
No, the Sony server "hack" is a myth regarding what tracks were obtained from there. It's not true that material is being held back from back then. It has all leaked.
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And how are we supposed to trust you exactly anyway lol

It doesn't even make sense, how would the people who passed them on to people like Motif even get songs like Streetwalker '87, Water, Adore You, Neverland Landing, among others? I doubt they were auctioned
 
threepea11 said:
And how are we supposed to trust you exactly anyway lol

It doesn't even make sense, how would the people who passed them on to people like Motif even get songs like Streetwalker '87, Water, Adore You, Neverland Landing, among others? I doubt they were auctioned
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You can of course uphold your personal belief that the infamous Sony server "hack" gave some individuals access to way more material. But that simply is not true...

My posting does make sense. Your posting doesn't make sense: There were no auctions. There's a lot of hacking and that has included targeting MJ's B-Team.
 
Korgnex said:
You can of course uphold your personal belief that the infamous Sony server "hack" gave some individuals access to way more material. But that simply is not true...

My posting does make sense. Your posting doesn't make sense: There were no auctions. There's a lot of hacking and that has included targeting MJ's B-Team.
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Its still a hack dude lol. Plus hacking MJ's B-Team? That's just as bad as stealing a laptop...
 
MJ19951998 said:
That’s not correct. This better-mixed version of “Butterflies” was already circulating on numerous Sony promo CDs in 2001–2002 (radio/promo pressings) — long before your upload. So please don’t act like you were the one who discovered or exclusively shared it.
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I never claimed any "exclusivity". Go look up the MJJC thread here, I shared it because noone seemed to have it. Dunno why the exclusivity claim is even discussed, such a claim isn't in my posting.

Korgnex said:
If anyone remembers the audiophile mastering of "Butterflies" that I have shared in 2010 IIRC (NOT from the DAT) [...]
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People from this forum back then might remember the thread. I did not claim a "world premiere", lol. What's your problem?
 
Korgnex said:
I never claimed any "exclusivity". Go look up the MJJC thread here, I shared it because noone seemed to have it. Dunno why the exclusivity claim is even discussed, such a claim in't in my posting.
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Then word your sentences differently lmao. You made it sound like that it was never released and you leaked it. Attention seeking?
 
MJ19951998 said:
That’s not correct. This better-mixed version of “Butterflies” was already circulating on numerous Sony promo CDs in 2001–2002 (radio/promo pressings) — long before your upload. So please don’t act like you were the one who discovered or exclusively shared it.
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And you were or are privy to Sony promo cd‘s from 2001?

Because I was there when Korgnex shared this uncompressed „Butterlies“ file & also the Remix & instrumental.
And literally NOBODY had it before.
Because literally nobody had access to some very rare promo cd singles from 2001.

What’s true must stay true.
I was there when it happened, so stop the yapping, younglings.

And in all those childish shady shenanigans that are going on now, Korg is the least shady figure!

That 6 second low quality, or even full shitty seminar recordings are cheap and are killing the excitement & the experience of listening to a „new“ song for the first time in the quality it deserves.
 
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