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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, the chorus of Rocker keeps popping into my head randomly. I'm wondering if MJ's mic is quite lq on that song or if it's just the snippets. I recall Damien saying it is one take all the way through so entirely possible it's muffled at parts or something.
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Even if so, wouldn’t good AI be able to solve for that?

Ala the John Lennon tapes
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I think the only chance we have of hearing the Will.I.Am stuff is a leak, honestly.
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Yeah the Estate didn't even let Will.I.Am sample "Beat It" for one of his songs, I doubt they'd suddenly want to collaborate with him after more than a decade of denying him lol.

The Will.i.Am tracks is probably in the hands of collectors anyways, I remember that "smellyjelly" leaker uploading a video saying one of the tracks they played on the Access Hollywood interview wasn't the song "Still The King" so they gotta have that one at least.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, the chorus of Rocker keeps popping into my head randomly. I'm wondering if MJ's mic is quite lq on that song or if it's just the snippets. I recall Damien saying it is one take all the way through so entirely possible it's muffled at parts or something.
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There’s different versions of Rocker, Damien heard a bad mix where the mic is blown out, but there is a fixed version that doesn’t clip like that
 
Alaslam said:
What is the hype around 2000s era songs they’re all terrible to me
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Those songs represent MJ’s final works, not to mention that it’s the era we’ve heard the least from. To this day, 16 years after his death, we’ve only heard one full song that was written and recorded post-trial, and it’s not even one MJ wrote (“Hold My Hand”). (You could argue we’ve heard all of “Water” by this point, but that’s up for debate).

Personally, I wanna see how his songwriting held up.
 
Alaslam said:
What is the hype around 2000s era songs they’re all terrible to me
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I agree that most of what we've heard isn't all that unique nor impressive for Michael Jackson, but to add up to what other people have said to me it's also about having a glimpse at what could've been - I was a newborn when "Invincible" came out, and I didn't even know he existed when T25 released (I remember hearing the remix of TGIM on the radio but I was completely clueless as to what singer it was from lol) so this new album he was working on would've been my only opportunity to experience a MJ release in his lifetime. Each glimpse we get is fascinating to me regardless of the song's quality or its state of completion.

Plus the 2000's is an era of music that's quite nostalgic to me, if there's anything from my favorite singer which is more characteristic of the music from that time I'm pretty interested in hearing it all. At least "Dark Lady" seems to fit that criteria with its hip-hop sound lol
 
you also gotta remember we barely have a single full song available from that era
its just curiosity for what hes truly been up to at that time + i agree for me its also nostalgia for 2000s music lmao
 
Alaslam said:
What is the hype around 2000s era songs they’re all terrible to me
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The significance is the fact that these are some of the last projects Michael ever made. The notion that these aren't fully fleshed out ideas hits that point home. Like other people, it's about what could've been. It's about picturing what these songs could've sounded like had Michael finished them. But his death left them in the state they're in, never to be worked on again. Basically, it's like a time capsule. The songs are frozen in time.
 
I don't think any of the final years songs we've heard so far sounds bad, far from it, but they just aren't "unique" or "unlike anything we heard in music" like they were rumoured to be, you can easily draw comparisons to other songs of MJ's or to songs from that time period.

"Adore You" is a lot like "Will You Be There", "Rocker" is like "They Don't Care About Us" with a tint of "Give In To Me", "Boy No" sounds like your average Buxer collab from the 2000's, "Water" was described as being a complex track but it's essentially just a looped chorus, "Dark Lady" sounds like late 2000's hip-hop and so on. Plus a lot of the songs are instrumental grooves which have nothing to write home about.

Again, I don't think any of these songs are bad, you can definitely see the potential with a few of them, but they were definitely overhyped to a certain degree like a lot of the material in the vault tends to be.
 
I don’t think it was ever confirmed that “Adore You,” “Rocker,” or “Boy No” were written post-trial. I don’t think the second two were even on MJ’s radar based on his notes.

But even then, it’s hard to judge based on a handful of songs and snippets. Every era has some mediocre tracks. Imagine you’d never heard MJ before and someone told you that Thriller was one of the best albums ever made, but the only songs they played you were “The Girl is Mine,” the “Behind the Mask” demo, “Nightline,” and “Can’t Get Outta the Rain.” I think we’d need MUCH more to accurately see where MJ’s compositional skills where.
 
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