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Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

FlyAway0086 said:
I feel like they could've easily had a third disc for b-sides and previously released tracks (CGOOTR - *cough*), and left more room on the second for additional unheard/unreleased material. Oh, well...
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I wonder what potential Bad40 release will look like? How many already released tracks would make it on such release?🤔
 
Fuzball said:
I wonder what potential Bad40 release will look like? How many already released tracks would make it on such release?🤔
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I feel like re-releases should be treated as definitive editions, so I don’t have an issue with them including all of the previously released material. So long as they even it out with a fair amount of new music. (And if they actually include quality mixes of the already-released music—“Carousel” from T40 came on shuffle the other day and I still cannot believe they released it in that quality.)
 
AlwaysThere said:
I feel like re-releases should be treated as definitive editions, so I don’t have an issue with them including all of the previously released material. So long as they even it out with a fair amount of new music. (And if they actually include quality mixes of the already-released music—“Carousel” from T40 came on shuffle the other day and I still cannot believe they released it in that quality.)
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I think T40 was a throwaway project to test the waters post LN. Chances are like most other bands they are saving the big guns for the 50th anniversaries, like The Beatles have done. With MJs streaming figures they can afford to I guess. T40 was a token IMO, but I'm grateful for it considering I wasn't sure if we would get another physical MJ release at one point!

Carousel and CGOOTR. Still speechless over those. They sound like they were downloaded from Limewire
 
FlyAway0086 said:
I feel like they could've easily had a third disc for b-sides and previously released tracks (CGOOTR - *cough*), and left more room on the second for additional unheard/unreleased material. Oh, well...
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On the third disc I would have also liked to see different takes of each song, sort of like how the Beatles release their album deluxe editions.
 
smoothvillain said:
My guess is everything from Bad25 and Throwing Your Life Away. If Porcaro allows Chicago 45 there's a good chance it'll be on there. If not, I'm guessing Turning Me Off seems the most probable.
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Prob not bad 25 but cheater, TYLA, Chicago 45, turning me off, changes, then remixes
 
since @mank1113r brought this to my attention by reacting to it
Fuzball said:
confirmed, (nearly) completed tracks: *written from memory (I may have forgotten some songs)*


The Toy
Lovely Way
Behind The Mask (1982 mix)
Nightline
Hot Street
She's Trouble
Slapstick
Starlite
Make a Wish
Neverland Landing
State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
Victory
Buffalo Bill
Chicago 1945
Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
Throwin' Your Life Away
Serious Effect
Work That Body
If You Don't Love Me
Truth 'Bout Youth
Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
Seeing Voices
Another Day (1999 mix)
What More Can I Give (solo version)
Get Your Weight Off Me
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^ @mank1113r brought this to my attention by reacting to it. We've come a long way since 2020 regarding unreleased songs with (almost) full vocals.
 
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As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
 
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Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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Didn’t Damien Shields confirm that ‘What you do to me’ has full vocals or am I misremembering?
 
Perhaps Joe Vogel's knowing more. Has he ever been asked about WYDTM?
 
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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
 
Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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Interesting list my friend. We could add "Make Or Break" which is complete according to Joe Vogel's memories despite contradictory information. I have doubts about "Truth About Youth" and the Christmas song regarding MJ's vocals.
 
Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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Except you are missing the Invincible and post Invincible sessions. There are 25 more songs. Ready for release.
 
Fuzball said:
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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
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Anyone going to this event? I'll be curious to know more about the song "Rich Girl" that Brad Buxer already mentioned.
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Interesting list my friend. We could add "Make Or Break" which is complete according to Joe Vogel's memories despite contradictory information. I have doubts about "Truth About Youth" and the Christmas song regarding MJ's vocals.
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Make or Brake has full usable vocals? Did Vogel rule out any nonsense LV?
 
I still give kudos to the Thriller Era and technically Victory, for having some of the greatest outtakes easily.

Hot Street
Behind The Mask
Buffalo Bill
Dream Away
Sunset Driver
Chicago 1945
Carousel
The Toy

Then you can add on Anka tracks. It's an incredible Set of songs, to contrast a few plain songs (Trouble, Got The Hots).
 
Fuzball said:
Make or Brake has full usable vocals? Did Vogel rule out any nonsense LV?
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That's what he said anyway... I have some doubts because he's the first person to say that.

firmware-god said:
Except you are missing the Invincible and post Invincible sessions. There are 25 more songs. Ready for release.
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It would be nice to have the names of the songs.
 
Fuzball said:
As of now, there are at least 25 unreleased songs with (nearly) full vocals in the vault.

  1. Nightline
  2. Hot Street
  3. Slapstick
  4. Make a Wish
  5. Neverland Landing
  6. State of Shock(w/ Freddy)
  7. Victory
  8. Buffalo Bill
  9. Chicago 1945
  10. Streetwalker (final 1987 mix)
  11. Throwin' Your Life Away
  12. Serious Effect
  13. Work That Body
  14. If You Don't Love Me
  15. Truth 'Bout Youth
  16. Much Too Soon (final 1994 mix)
  17. X-mas song (1994 - title not revealed yet)
  18. Seeing Voices
  19. Another Day (1999 mix)
  20. What More Can I Give (solo version)
  21. Get Your Weight Off Me
  22. Tomboy
  23. Turning Me Off
  24. Monkey Business (unreleased 1991 mix)
  25. Crack Kills
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+ Dreaming, Dancing for Love, Dream Away, What You Do To Me, The Loser, World of Candy...
 
Fuzball said:
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Anyone planning to attend the event on June 21st?

John van Nest has cut several solo demos with Michael between 1979 and 1981.




I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at 12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00!". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.
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Don’t bother if you are looking to hear new stuff
 
Interesting how "unknown" titles - words - are guarded like actual audio. lmao.

Not that anyone has an obligation to tell. But why even mention it ? Sad.
 
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