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Bad 40th Anniversary

Blues_Away2023 said:
The only issue was not being able to find a high quality HD of the BAD tour.
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If you want them to release a live concert then just ask them to release a live concert. No need to buy another copy of Just Good Friends in order to get it.

RIP_2009 said:
It was ok but a few more unreleased songs should have been included.
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If you want them to release unreleased songs then just ask them to release unreleased songs.

Like, what's happening here? Are people just not reading what I type or something?
 
R1chard said:
If you want them to release a live concert then just ask them to release a live concert. No need to buy another copy of Just Good Friends in order to get it.
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I bought the concert on DVD on its own, without anything else, because that was the only thing I was interested in from Bad 25 release. Didn't have to buy anything I didn't want to in order to get it
 
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R1chard said:
If you want them to release a live concert then just ask them to release a live concert. No need to buy another copy of Just Good Friends in order to get it.



If you want them to release unreleased songs then just ask them to release unreleased songs.
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LOL, it’s pretty obvious that the Estate doesn’t care what the fans wants.
Branca himself said a few years ago that releasing something new for the fans was not a priority.
But the Estate should use that opportunity to do so with the upcoming movie.
 
Michaels Lover said:
I bought the concert on DVD on its own, without anything else, because that was the only thing I was interested in from Bad 25 release. Didn't have to buy anything I didn't want to in order to get it
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Exactly!!!

I bought Bad/Wembley as a standalone DVD.

I bought Dangerous/Bucharest as a standalone DVD.

In both cases I bought what I wanted, no more and no less. There was no need for an "Anniversary rerelease", lol.

If the only way to get those DVDs was via an expensive deluxe collectors edition boxset, Sony would have simply missed out on a sale.

RIP_2009 said:
Branca himself said a few years ago that releasing something new for the fans was not a priority.
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And that's perfectly fine. They don't need to. I have all the MJ albums, I don't need any more. I won't be buying any new copies of Thriller or Dangerous. If they're to have any hope of a sale from me, they're going to have to offer something new, at a good price.
 
Isn’t Bad in the region of 33 million? I mean, not Bad at all, is it?!
 
RIP_2009 said:
It was ok but a few more unreleased songs should have been included.
Bad album is amazing and all the outtakes sounds good or great yet during this
time Michael recorded ….imo…one of the worst songs: We Are Here to Change the World
I cant say anything positive about it and it is a song I never play.
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Well that's your opinion, I like it, I'm sure I'm not the only one
 
November19 said:
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According to a user on @MJJCommunity there is a source very close to The Estate who has seen screenshots of original 4K scans of Michael's BAD Tour at Wembley Stadium on July 15, 1988... Note: this program also exists in Multitracks, used for the official APOM short film.
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Dont't give me hope. We need more details! What source?
Edit: Source is an old tweet from Zakk..
https://twitter.com/x/status/1545768343541583873
 
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What Michael Jackson's BAD REALLY Did to the Music Industry...
 
I'm sure that the enthusiasm for the biopic will lead, if not to a third posthumous album, but at least to Bad 40. This would be the opportunity to release songs like Throwin' Your Life Away, Chicago 1945 and Dream Away. And hopefully more unknown songs like:

Tomboy
Make or Break
Crack Kills
Buffalo Bill
Alright Now
Groove of Midnight
Be Me 4 a Day
Tabloid Jungle
Turnin' Me Off
What You Do to Me
Apocalypse Now
Get Around
Bad Company
Get In To The Groove
Places You Find Love
 
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They should not waste releaseable songs on anniversary albums.

Make a new album with all new songs - and if they only want to release 8 new songs to keep some for future releases - then add We've Had Enough and Price of Fame in a new finalized version. - The version released is great, but it could be updated a little.
 
Bad Tour 87 red Shirt
Bad Tour 87 Silver Shirt
Bad Tour 87 Black Shirt
Yokohama 87
Wembley 88
New York 88
LA 89
Bonus: MJ And Stevie in Brisbane

I don’t even need unreleased songs.
 
Hess said:
They should not waste releaseable songs on anniversary albums.

Make a new album with all new songs
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Exactly that.

ANNIVERSARY albums should be just that. They should celebrate the original album, as it was released at the time. All the original B-sides and remixes. Possibly the early demos of the songs on the album. But that's it.

You can't celebrate an old album with random new songs that nobody has heard before.

Nite Line said:
45 million copies sold for just the album. That is probably not true.

However, if we combine both the sales of album and singles of the album, the 45 million figure is correct.
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But we all know that's not how it works.

And even if it did, most singles don't even break 1 million sales, so that number is definitely bogus.
 
R1chard said:
But we all know that's not how it works.

And even if it did, most singles don't even break 1 million sales, so that number is definitely bogus.
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"Most singles don't even break 1 million sales." WHAT?

Are you telling me that singles like Billie Jean, Beat It, Thriller, Man In The Mirror, The Way You Make Me Feel, Smooth Criminal, Black Or White and many more haven't even sold 1 million in sales worldwide?
 
Nite Line said:
"Most singles don't even break 1 million sales." WHAT?
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That's what I said. MJ only had 3 songs that sold 10 million copies. A big hit like Black or White sold 1 million copies.

Most singles did not sell as much as a million.

The lifetime of a single is like 3-4 weeks. And then it's gone. More realistically, 100 hours. They usually don't even manufacture a million copies, because they know they'll never get anywhere close.

When somebody talks about 45 million copies, it's simply a lie.

But again, that's not how numbers work. You don't add together all the sales for all the singles, and then include it as sales of the album. It's never been done that way. Sony knows this. They're deliberately trying to mislead people. That picture should not be trusted.
 
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R1chard said:
That's what I said. MJ only had 3 songs that sold 10 million copies. A big hit like Black or White sold 1 million copies.

Most singles did not sell as much as a million.

The lifetime of a single is like 3-4 weeks. And then it's gone. More realistically, 100 hours. They usually don't even manufacture a million copies, because they know they'll never get anywhere close.

When somebody talks about 45 million copies, it's simply a lie.

But again, that's not how numbers work. You don't add together all the sales for all the singles, and then include it as sales of the album. It's never been done that way. Sony knows this. They're deliberately trying to mislead people. That picture should not be trusted.
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Black or White was a number 1 hit in over 20 countries when it was first released. I am pretty sure that since its release in 1991, it has sold more than a million copies worldwide.

Maybe single sales weren't that high in the era of physical sales. But once digital downloading became a thing, singles arguably became more popular than albums.

I strongly refuse to believe that most of Michael's singles, especially those released from Off The Wall to History, didn't sell at least a million.

I don't believe that Bad sold 45 million. Probably somewhere in the region of between 30-35 million copies.
 
R1chard said:
That's what I said. MJ only had 3 songs that sold 10 million copies. A big hit like Black or White sold 1 million copies.

Most singles did not sell as much as a million.

The lifetime of a single is like 3-4 weeks. And then it's gone. More realistically, 100 hours. They usually don't even manufacture a million copies, because they know they'll never get anywhere close.

When somebody talks about 45 million copies, it's simply a lie.

But again, that's not how numbers work. You don't add together all the sales for all the singles, and then include it as sales of the album. It's never been done that way. Sony knows this. They're deliberately trying to mislead people. That picture should not be trusted.
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And also to consider, the trend of singles selling over 10 million is relatively recent in the music industry. In the 70s, 80s and 90s, the marketing push was 100% for the albums. Singles sales were not three main priority. That started to shift with the advent of iTunes and streaming, and then we started seeing these crazy single sales.
 
Nite Line said:
Black or White was a number 1 hit in over 20 countries when it was first released. I am pretty sure that since its release in 1991, it has sold more than a million copies worldwide.
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We don't need to be pretty sure. The RIAA publishes the figures.

Also, in most markets, a typical MJ single would sell about 30k copies. They're tiny numbers. You'd have to add those up all day to get 45 million.

Nite Line said:
Maybe single sales weren't that high in the era of physical sales. But once digital downloading became a thing, singles arguably became more popular than albums.
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That's not the way to describe it. The move to downloading simply eliminated both albums and singles. Both of those concepts no longer exist. Now we just have songs.

Also, the download era was extremely short-lived. Downloading never actually overtook physical sales, before it got overtaken by streaming.

Single sales today are basically zero. Like I said above, it's rare that any single had a shelf life of more than a month. So it doesn't matter when a single was released - the sales number does not continue climbing over time.

Nite Line said:
I strongly refuse to believe that most of Michael's singles, especially those released from Off The Wall to History, didn't sell at least a million.
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Based on what?

I already said. Some of them got to about 1-2 million, tops. The rest sold way less. I'm not making this up, I just spent 45 minutes researching the numbers.

Nite Line said:
I don't believe that Bad sold 45 million. Probably somewhere in the region of between 30-35 million copies.
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You don't need to believe anything. The numbers are out there. Sony claims 35 million. The actual figures are more like 21 million.

apple🍎 said:
And also to consider, the trend of singles selling over 10 million is relatively recent in the music industry
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Recent, and rare. That's exactly what I said.

I'm just saying that Bad image should be deleted. Seems like you agree.

apple🍎 said:
That started to shift with the advent of iTunes and streaming, and then we started seeing these crazy single sales.
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This isn't right. Streams are not sales. Streams are the opposite of sales. As I said, singles no longer exist. They are not released, and people don't/can't buy them.
 
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Fuzball said:
Not true.
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How so? Singles started to die out from about 2008. By 2011 they were completely phased out. That was the end of the story, more than a decade ago. If you cannot buy something then it's not a real thing.

In MJ's case, even TII wasn't actually a single. WBSS with Akon was his last single that got wide release. Everything after that might have got a very limited run in one country, but basically doesn't count. They might say they released IJCSLY in 2012, but it was a gimmick, not a real thing.
 
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