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Analaysing the pictures and video footage which was used in Leaving Neverland

ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
After reading this post.... which pictures did they show from James and James with Michael in Neverland?

I remember it were not really many pictures for such a strong relationship with so many sex adventures in so many places in Neverland.
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Is there any pictures of them at Neverland in the film? I have seen it but I dont recall. All of the ones I can remember are from other places which look like hotels or at the Safechucks house.
 
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I swear the birthday video looks "fake", it was the first thing that struck me. It looks like one of those vids where a person talk and edits another face on it. It looks "too perfect". But since Karen didnt say anything regarding that, it probably is real. Just throwing it out there
 
Are you guys sure that the picture were Michael is looking on screen at Hitler is really Michael?

When it is Michael the picture semes not to be from James (or Wade) cause he seames to ne much older there.

Did someone saw the picture before LN?
 
Should we inform this guy that Reed used his footage in the child porngraphic film Leaving Neverland with two admitted liares who accuse Michael Jackson being a peodfile to make money and ask him if he had allowed it?
Maybe he can sue Dan Reed,

 
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I found this two video collections today with fotos of James and Michael.
You will find there most of the pictures which were used in Leaving Neverland.
So the most fotos which were used there are not private (never before seen) fotos from, or shoot from the Safechucks.
They are publically relesed fotos shoot from other people.

This was uploaded on September 20 2014

This was uploaded on August 2018

Do you think they used the photos from this video collections uploded on a MJ Fanchannel for Leaving Neverland?

Seames that Dan Reed don't had the rights in using this pictures.
 
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To the people OF YOU WHO HAVE SEEN LEAVING NEVERLAND COMPLEATLY:
Can it be possible that pictures of an MJ impresator who is in the friends list of the Robsons in Facebook, looked so simular to MJ (who only wants to work with the best people) that he maybe have worked as bodydouble for MJ (because of the second picture in th video which can be the impresator standing in front of a big audiance of fans) are in LN?

Can it be possible that they have hied him to stage some pictues like the Hitler Picure in LN?

Please do your investigation about the impresator secrerly and not puplically.
When he is friends with the Robsons he can also delate everthing.
I am sadly not on Facebook.

You can see that the picture is in LN in this,upload of the movie at around 0:26:30.

https://youtu.be/VXW1pJWYbY4

They make it look like in the movie as it was MJ sitting in James nursery together with next pictures of the impresator they are showing there with the same MJ poster in the backround.

What is the name of the impresator at facebook which is in the Robsons friendslist?

I would love to ask the uploader of exposing video if she can give us the facebookadress of the impresator which is the Robsons friendslist but I sadly have no youtube account at the moment.
You can see the uploader facebook name in the video.

Can somone ask her if she can give you the facebook adress of the impresator which is in the Robsond Facebook list to be sure it is this impresator she showed in her video and not pictures of LN who maybe showed MJ?
 
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I am more sure now that the foto is not showing Michael sitting in James Nursery.

You can see James sitting in his nursery on his bed in this video at
https://youtu.be/VXW1pJWYbY4
at 0:21:50.
The nursery who MJ or the impresator sits on the floor at 0:26:30 looks compleatly different with different hanging.
They also datet this Photo in LN in the year 1987 before James jointed MJ at the Bad tour.
But the poster in the backround is dated June 5th, 6th, 7th 1988 Bad tour Rotterdam.

Why should have James have an official Bad Tour poster from Rotterdam in his in his nursery before he saw any concert of the bad tour and was not such a big MJ fan at this time?
 
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I want to reactivate this thread to proove when all the pictures and the videofootage they are showing from MJ and James in LN are made.

They use this pictures and footage as nearly the only proof that MJ spend time with James during the timline when he should have abbused him.

The more we proove when the pictures were really made and which from them are made outside the abbuse timeline the more we can disproove the accusations.

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The photo in the plane was shoot on July 11 1988 by Dave Hogan/Getty Imags
NOT during the Hawaii Trip in Feburary where MJ and James should have recorded the Hawaii interview!
Proof:

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...ld-jimmy-safechuck-on-nachrichtenfoto/2799214


The pictures with James in the yellow shirt with the long armes are from the Phantome of the Opera attendence on March 9 1988 which James did also mention in James lawsuit.

Proof:

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/n...-and-jimmy-safechuck-nachrichtenfoto/82183103

https://pictorial.jezebel.com/celebrities-in-1988-sure-loved-going-to-see-phantom-of-1754989887

The pictures from MJ and James on the beach are from feburary 1988 at the hilton hotel.
Same with the pictures on the balcony and any other pictures with the sme clothings

Proof:

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Michael_Jackson,_1988_(3662754910).jpg

This picture is from March 10 1988 but MJ was not with the Safechucks on united Negro Event. They semed to only met eachother on he same day!

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Proof:

http://www.aparchive.com/metadata/U...ael-Jackson-/c34755a988e8643a467419314cd62a99

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...hWJKFAKHVKzAXwQ_AUoAXoECAwQAQ&biw=659&bih=412

To be continued.
 
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The pictures from James sitting with MJ in a carvan ( from which we first thought were shoot on the speed demon set) can also be from the pepsi commercial.

Cause here here we have Michael sitting with Karen Faye in maybe the same caravan on the pepsi commerical set were MJ is wearing the dress from the second pepsi commercial from 1987.

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...oECAEQKA&biw=722&bih=582#imgrc=i1hnWgdtRK2uwM

Its possible that they simply had the same caravan on the Speed Demon set AND the pepsi commerial set.

Michael is wearing the dress from this second pepsi commerial also is some of the pictures with James in LN you can find again in this video.



So when all these pictures are behind the scene footage from the pepsi commercial in 1987 were MJ met James the first time had absolutly no relationship is nothing sinister on all these picrures!


Look .... here MJ is waring the same black undershirt in the stage footage of the pepsi commercial like he is wearing in the carawan pictures wih james.


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Carvan footage from the speed demon set which proofs that it is the same carvan were MJ and James are sitting in

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I try to find out when the speed demon video segment from moonwalker was shoot.
But this semes to be difficult.

Can someone help me?

The movie was relesed october 29 1988.
MJ was touring in euruope til the end of september 1988

This is not much time left for james to shoot pictures with Michael in the caravan in his abuse timeline.
 
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myosotis said:
I agree this is a great resource for photo dates (Getty), but I don't think the photo in the car is the same date as the aeroplane. MJ's jacket in the car has blue epaulettes (on the shoulder), and he is wearing a long-sleeve red shirt underneath - you can easily see the red cuffs in the car photo.

I wonder if the blue 'college' jacket James is wearing was given to him by MJ? It looks too big (sleeves too long), and MJ wears a very similar jacket on the Bad tour with James.

MJ wore this blue college jacket on the Bad tour - next to the man with the red tartan jacket here (top of page):

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/629589222884171781/?lp=true


James also wore the same 'too big' jacket in London with MJ, on the same pinterest page (about 9 rows down, next to the photo of MJ wearing the Bad outfit in London with wide belt and police badges on jacket).
Same photo is at the top of this Pinterest page:
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/723812971338943733/

This blue college jacket seems to have an embroidered design on the front, but I can't see what it is. (EDIT: I think it might be the 'Warner Bros' one with the cartoon rabbit - Bugs Bunny- on the front?)
https://starwearstatus.com/product/...vintage-delong-leather-wool-varsity-jacket/3/

I'm sorry, I can't post photos here any more- it doesn't work for me. :(
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Good work.
You are Right that it is MJs Jacket:

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But is this the same plane?
Seats look different.

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I would really love to find out where and when the pictures where MJ and James are hugging each other were made.

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When was this meeting with Harrison Ford and George Lucas?

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MJ is visiting sigfried and roy backstage on the bad tour in Colgne on July 3 1988 with James

Proof:

http://jared-joseph.blog.cz/0909/meeting-siegfried-roy-m

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...75#imgrc=Gw94MOlYkcsarM&imgdii=GsOGIT1TLdSNZM

They later visited the amusement park "Phantasialand" in Brühl all together.

Proof:

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...hWDMewKHeZKCtMQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=581&bih=930

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MJ dancing with James on stage is from January 1989 in Los Angeles

Proof:

http://mjfansbr.blogspot.com/2018/01/hoje-na-historia-de-michael-jackson-27.html

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MJ is arriving with James in Cork irland at around July 29 1988

[video=youtube;BVcKD8CcfP4] https://youtu.be/BVcKD8CcfP4[/video]
 
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No James when MJs is arriving in paris:

[video=youtube;4lHe-A1i-1I] https://youtu.be/4lHe-A1i-1I[/video]

UPDATE ON THIS: Reed had STOLEN the footage which showed MJ sitting inside of the tour bus from one of this france news reports.

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MJ arrives in Rome ALONE

[video=youtube;kqrwEKxwxs4] https://youtu.be/kqrwEKxwxs4[/video]

Here is MJ visiting a museum in Rome absolutly ALONE and lonley wihout his "special friend" James

[video=youtube;-7r9RjZO9Q4] https://youtu.be/-7r9RjZO9Q4[/video]


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Michael Jackson is visiting the castle Schönbrunn in Vienna without James or the Safechucks.

Proof:

https://www.google.com/search?q=m...e 2 1988 before the abuse should have started

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Michael walkes without James trough berlin

https://www.google.com/search?q=mic...hWrMewKHZjOChsQ_AUoAXoECAwQAQ&biw=553&bih=885

The comcert date was before the paris concert and the abuse should have started on June 19 1988

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Michael visted the Chaplin family without James or the Safechucks in Basel

Proof:

http://www.jackson.ch/artikeldetail/rolf-knie-schildert-begegnung-mit-mj-in-chaplins-haus/

Michael is visiting Cleverland Elementry shool after a shooting without James or the Safechucks on Febuary 7 1989 directly after the Bad tour has ended.

[video=youtube;gzrih-ctdIM] https://youtu.be/gzrih-ctdIM[/video]
 
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This will show you which pictures with MJ and James are from Paris

http://www.onmjfootsteps.com/archives/2014/11/01/30871961.html

So it semes that they slept in the same hotel

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The footage from MJ and James leaving the plane together and leaving the bus togeter are from Nice in France August 13 1988 and STOLEN from this video.

Proof:


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Which pictures from MJ and James are from Japan is very obvious that we don't really need to research this.

But here is some filmfootage with MJ and James in Japan.





But is the boy in the second video really james?


He seams to have too long hair.


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The pictures with MJ and James where James wears the a red shirt are definitly all from the same photoshoot.
But I cam't find any details aboit this photoshoot.

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The footage from James and MJ posing in front of a black courtain which is shown directly in the beginning LN is from Japan 1988.
MJ had the Jacket on and later in some pictures with James off.

Proof:

MJ is posing with japanese children in front of the same courtain before the concert.

[video=youtube;h4BAWj83D5w] https://youtu.be/h4BAWj83D5w [/video]

In this video it seamess that James is standing in the Backround with the red shirt:

[video=youtube;2efDEZUV02g] https://youtu.be/2efDEZUV02g[/video]

In the footage with James the photgrapher clearly leads MJ and James in what they shoud do in front of the camera.

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MJ is viiting the Liseberg Park in Sweden ALONE

Pictures in this video:

[video=youtube;WBY27s2slJY] https://youtu.be/WBY27s2slJY[/video]

And here:

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...h=686&biw=1098&prmd=insv#imgrc=hyjuF735kDhF_M

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MJ is visiting Sigfried and Roy backstage on the bad tour in Cologne on July 3 1988 with James

Proof:

http://jared-joseph.blog.cz/0909/meeting-siegfried-roy-m

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...75#imgrc=Gw94MOlYkcsarM&imgdii=GsOGIT1TLdSNZM

They later visited the amusement park "Phantasialand" in Brühl all together.

Proof:

https://www.google.de/search?q=mich...hWDMewKHeZKCtMQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=581&bih=930


SO THE PICTURE WITH JAMES AND MJ IN THE VIDEO ABOVE FROM THE LISEBURG PARK IS FROM PHANTASIALAND BRÜL NOT FROM SWEDEN!
in Sweden MJ and James were NOT together in the Park
 
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I found out from where the "Park footage" in LN is from:
It is STOLEN from this video obviously filmed in DisneyLAND 1988!


But I am sure if the boy in the footage is really James or a other boy like Sean Lennon or someone else.
As far as I can remember James never mentions in his complaint a trip to DisneyLAND in the U.S. only one to DisneyWORLD in the U.S.!


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Ha Faker and thief Dan Greed also edited this footage.




He used the original Bad audio which is uploaded on youtube from this concert and try to make it match with Wades footage.
But it didn't really match!
And when filmquality gets so worst in the middle of the footage the audio stays in the same quality.

And why should Wades parents somtimes film the audience when Wade is on stage?

Yeah this edit should cover up the fakeing.
They are also showing THREE different crowds in this momemt. Not the same people.
Impossible to film this from one point where you are standing in a concert.
The camerea soes not turn around from the stage to film the audiance.
I have the impression that sometimes the crowed is filmed from the stage.
You will also notice cuts in the footage.
There is also little cut after Michael camed back to Wade.

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When the Robsons talk about their meeting with MJ in Australia they showing MJs arival with a plane BUT it is not Austraila.

Here is MJ original arrival in Australia in 1987:




I'm still searching the footage of the arrival Reed is showing in LN where MJ wars a violet shirt with long arms.

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A video that prooves hat they show many things in LN from MJ in Japan 1987 where no Wade or James was arround him.
Instead of Japan 1988


 
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I want to make a new post about Michaels time in London

MJ and James visited together the Gide Hall event in London on July 20 1988
(ALL pictures with James wearing grey and has long hairs are from this event)


Proof:

http://www.billiejean.be/Today_In_History/Today_In_History_July1.html

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James performes also with MJ in Wembley July 16 1988 at the end of the song Bad.

Proof at around 1:47:00



Geoge Lucas and Harrison Ford visited James and his mother on July 14 the very first Bad Tour concert in London backstage at the and made this picture together:

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Proof on this page

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-133416.html

"July 14th ~*

- In 1988-*
Michael Jackson began his first British tour at Wembley Stadium in London. It was the first of seven sellout dates. Michael broke all existing attendance records during the 2nd leg of the Bad World Tour, when he played 7 sold out shows at London's 72,000-seat Wembley Stadium to a record 504,000 fans! This earned Michael a 3rd entry into the Guinness World Records from the Bad tour alone & a special award from the management of the Wembley stadium. The 1st concert was attended by numerous celebrities including Shirley Bassey, Jack Nicholson, Frank Bruno, George Lucas, Harrison Ford & Jane Seymour. When tickets for the 7 dates went on sale in January, the demand exceeded $1.5 million, enough to sell-out the 72,000 capacity venue 20 times!"

Here is MJ on June 22 1988 backstage in London in front of the same backround

https://mjjackson-forever.com/board...-on-tour-eine-zeitreise-mit-michael/&pageNo=4

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MJ and James visited later the Indiana Jones Movie set together in London on July 18 1988 together

Proof

https://mjbeats.com.br/michael-jackson-e-harrison-ford-no-set-de-indiana-jones-2d638dc590a0

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Michael arrives in Heathrow ALONE (without James or the Safechucks)


MJ went NOT with James or the Safechucks

On July 16, 1988 to the event for Prince's Trust charity in London, England were MJ met Charles and Diana

Proof:

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/video/nachrichtenfilmmaterial/83361193

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Michael is visiting the Great Ormond Street Hospital in London WITHOUT James or the Safechucks

Proof:

https://www.google.de/search?q=Mic...hUixaYKHfA9DgcQ_AUoAnoECAwQAg&biw=588&bih=367

This discredit James claim that MJ and him were so in love and so close together ALL THE TIME after MJ would start abusing him.

To make backstage pictures with MJ on the bad tour was in general NOTHING special cause you can find hundreds of them all over the internet.
 
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Hello, I can remember a few weeks ago someone posting on Twitter the pic of the train station used in LN & saying that it wasn't Safechucks original photo, but that particular photo had come from a MJ related fan website & was posted before LN was released. I've been trying to find it (and am still looking) but I don't suppose any of you also saw it, or remember it? Obviously the implication would be huge if that was true, but I'd really like to be able to check the date it was posted

Also, about the footage shot in Simi Valley park, in the Legend Continues during 'With A Childs Heart' segment there's a clip just after MJ & Emmanuel Lewis in a boat of MJ & a boy & it looks like it may have been shot at dusk, the boy is pointing upwards & starts moving his head similar to the Wanna Be Startin Something dance. That looks like it could be Safecheque, as well as the dancing footage used
 
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Hello, I can remember a few weeks ago someone posting on Twitter the pic of the train station used in LN & saying that it wasn't Safechucks original photo, but that particular photo had come from a MJ related fan website & was posted before LN was released. I've been trying to find it (and am still looking) but I don't suppose any of you also saw it, or remember it? Obviously the implication would be huge if that was true, but I'd really like to be able to check the date it was posted
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it's from a french website: onmjfootsteps
 
terrell said:
He was such a big kid who could not say no to people.
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Hm..... l don't think that Michael was someone who could not say no to people!
I am absolutly sure he said no to adult people maaany times in his life cause when he would not have done this his very sucessful career would went compleatly wrong!
I don't see Michael as a big kid like many others prefer to do it. The kidlike abilitys was only one part of his complex character and personality, something many other adults can preserve in them too.

With children it was a different case.
But when you suddenly remember him saying things that he saw god in ALL children and as his duty to specifically take care of them and protect them cause he was so convinced that they are the ones who because of their purety, innocence and creativity are the ones who can heal the world and make it a better place I reallly can understand why he had problems to say NO to them.

I absolutly don't blame him for that.
I think in his general philosophie is much truth.
Like Tom Messerau likes to say it...
Michael Jackson was really a unique man and a genious. He could see and feel things nobody else could see and feel!
 
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