Bad 40th Anniversary

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Let's say our community has the privilege to compile the tracklist for the second disc of Bad 40 in 2027.
Which songs would you pick?
Which unreleased and unleaked songs sound the most interesting to you?

Here are the songs that exist:
Throwing Your Life Away
Chicago 1945
Come Together
Dreams Away
We Are Here to Change the World
Scared of the Moon
Cheater
Loving You
Do You Know Where Your Children Are
Don't Be Messin' 'Round
I'm So Blue
Song Groove (Abortion Papers)
Free
Price of Fame
Al Capone
Streetwalker (1986)
Streetwalker (1987)
Streetwalker (1988, on the SE 2001)
Fly Away
Todo mi amor eres tú (spanish version of IJCSLY)
Je ne veux pas la fin de nous (french version of IJCSLY)
Someone Put Your Hand Out

Here are the songs, that maybe exist:
Tomboy
Make or Break
Crack Kills
Buffalo Bill
Alright Now
Groove of Midnight
Be Me 4 a Day
Tabloid Jungle
Turnin' Me Off
What You Do to Me
Apocalypse Now
Changes
Get Around
Bad Company
Get In To The Groove
Places You Find Love
 
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Stevens had never worked with anyone but Billy Idol when he got the call from producer Quincy Jones to work on Jackson's Bad album, which arrived five years after 1982's Thriller. Stevens admits to being apprehensive about the gig, but he soon discovered there was nothing to worry about.
“With Billy it was always myself, Billy, a producer and an engineer. It was a very small group of people,” Stevens tells Guitar World. “When I flew to L.A. to do the Michael Jackson thing, I was thinking, ‘There’s going to be this huge entourage and all this crazy shit.’”
That turned out not to be the case: “I opened the studio door, and it was exactly like doing an Idol session – it was Michael, Quincy, and the engineer. So no big egos, no entourage, none of that stuff.”
Stevens soon began to enjoy the experience. “What was cool is we got what they had in mind, the melody and the rhythm stuff – and then Quincy said, ‘You go in there and do what you want,’” he remembered.
The result was a solo that helped “Dirty Diana” become a No. 1 hit in the U.S. and other locations, emulating the success of Van Halen’s contribution to “Beat It.”
“After I had done the solo … Michael says to me, ‘Hey, I really like the high notes,’” Stevens recalled. “I go, ‘Okay, cool.’ And then when I met Eddie, I said, ‘I just worked with Michael.’ He goes, ‘Hey, man, did he say he liked the high notes?’”
 
Content of all the Bad single releases;
Smooth Criminal with the extra verse as in Moonwalker:
Throwing Your Life Away; Chicago 1945;
Buffalo Bill;
Come Together (full version);
89 LA show on Blu ray & Audio;
Absolutely no Afrojack type modern day remixes.
 
Well,
  1. I don't think it will ever happen.
  2. I don't think it's necessary
The way you list around 20 songs, might as well simply release Xscape volume 2. No need to tie it to Bad. Look at what Motown did with Farewell My Summer Love - they treated it with respect, as an actual album, they didn't release them as bonus tracks for Ben 15.

4K Bad tour concert
I don't think any suitable footage exists. They couldn't even find any 240P footage of Wembley.

as well as a boxset of MSG 88, LA 89 etc.
Nope. I don't want to buy another inferior version of Bad in order to get those.

It's always worse to bundle stuff you want with stuff you don't. Much better to release those two concerts on standalone DVDs for $10 each and leave it at that.

Absolutely no Afrojack type modern day remixes.
Absolutely offensive. I've heard like a thousand remixes in my life, and those are the worst.
 
I've got 2 or 3 copies of the album already. I don't need another version that's worse.

I also don't want the estate to make any money from it because it will give them the idea that's what people want.
 
it will give them the idea that's what people want.
I want that damn thing.
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So what you mean is, you want Xscape volume 2?

You just want the new songs/demos. Look at what I said above - there is absolutely no need to tie it to Bad. It's a standalone project.
 
But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
 
But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
Like it or not. It was among the best things the estate has ever released (yes I know it's a low bar)
 
But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
What do you dream what in this size order we will never get again bad25 Deluxe box and extra 2cd set Wembley dvd 3 Vinyl set picture Vinyl I forgot something😂
 
But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
how was Bad25 an embarrassment? It had the original CD, a CD of unreleased songs, a live CD, a DVD concert + three extra performances from other shows. A great design with a great booklet of pictures, a documentary produced by Spike Lee.

I mean what more can one really ask for? lol. Sure the quality of Wembley bla bla, but still this is a great anniversary release.
 
But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
Bad 25 is so far the best project the estate has ever made.
 
Ok. If you must. Let's go point by point.

how was Bad25 an embarrassment? It had the original CD
They made the album sound like complete shit. It will give people the wrong impression. Plus, as I said, I ALREADY HAVE IT. So that doesn't count. There's no point in buying an inferior version of something you already own.

a CD of unreleased songs
Just release that CD on its own and you're all set. Why do people keep skipping over my point? If you're campaigning for a CD of unreleased songs, then just campaign for a CD of unreleased songs!! You don't want another copy of Bad on your shelf. You want a CD of unreleased songs.

And never forget that those remixes are an insult to MJ's name.

a live CD, a DVD concert
Well, (1) the DVD was available separately, so you don't get to count that (WHICH IS MY WHOLE POINT). Plus (2) why would you need the same thing on two formats? Forget the CD, you don't need the same thing twice. Waste of plastic.

Have you seen the pattern? The Bucharest DVD wasn't bundled with yet another copy of the Dangerous. That DVD was good enough that they sold it separately. Same with Wembley. If you want a MJ concert, just buy a MJ concert.

three extra performances from other shows
Actually, that DVD was famously bare-bones. The value for money was pretty low.

A great design with a great booklet of pictures
Let's stop counting this sort of nonsense. Highlighting the booklet or photos is something a label adds to a list of bullet points when they have nothing else to say.
 
Comparing the stuff they're doing for The Beatles and what the Prince estate did for Diamond and Pearls Deluxe and Sign O' The Times Deluxe... yeah, all the MJ estate releases were complete dogs hit.
 
Ok. If you must. Let's go point by point.


They made the album sound like complete shit. It will give people the wrong impression. Plus, as I said, I ALREADY HAVE IT. So that doesn't count. There's no point in buying an inferior version of something you already own.


Just release that CD on its own and you're all set. Why do people keep skipping over my point? If you're campaigning for a CD of unreleased songs, then just campaign for a CD of unreleased songs!! You don't want another copy of Bad on your shelf. You want a CD of unreleased songs.

And never forget that those remixes are an insult to MJ's name.


Well, (1) the DVD was available separately, so you don't get to count that (WHICH IS MY WHOLE POINT). Plus (2) why would you need the same thing on two formats? Forget the CD, you don't need the same thing twice. Waste of plastic.

Have you seen the pattern? The Bucharest DVD wasn't bundled with yet another copy of the Dangerous. That DVD was good enough that they sold it separately. Same with Wembley. If you want a MJ concert, just buy a MJ concert.


Actually, that DVD was famously bare-bones. The value for money was pretty low.


Let's stop counting this sort of nonsense. Highlighting the booklet or photos is something a label adds to a list of bullet points when they have nothing else to say.
Okay so you’re solely talking about the bad25 remaster then? I was talking about the whole Bad25 package, and that was not an embarrassment. At all. It was well received by the public, and for the most part the fans (save for the Wembley quality). Was it perfect? No. Could I have done without the Mr Worldwide Pittbull remixes? Yes. Could it have been mastered better? Sure. But calling it an embarrassment is hyperbolic. It catered to almost every part of the fan base as well as to new fans. It did just what an anniversary release is supposed to do. There are always gonna be purist that complains about something, and rightfully so in this case, but embarrassment? Come on. Plus an remaster of an album for anniversary release is very normal anyways. And I bought my boxset of Bad25 which included everything except for the documentary. It was a real solid project overall. We can only dream of such things now.
 
Okay so you’re solely talking about the bad25 remaster then? I was talking about the whole Bad25 package, and that was not an embarrassment. At all. It was well received by the public, and for the most part the fans (save for the Wembley quality). Was it perfect? No. Could I have done without the Mr Worldwide Pittbull remixes? Yes. Could it have been mastered better? Sure. But calling it an embarrassment is hyperbolic. It catered to almost every part of the fan base as well as to new fans. It did just what an anniversary release is supposed to do. There are always gonna be purist that complains about something, and rightfully so in this case, but embarrassment? Come on. Plus an remaster of an album for anniversary release is very normal anyways. And I bought my boxset of Bad25 which included everything except for the documentary. It was a real solid project overall. We can only dream of such things now.
I do agree with that. The mastering is not as awful and unprofessional as Thriller 40, it gave us new songs, new footage and it was something new that kept us going for a while

It's just that... compared to Prince and Beatles' estates releases, yes, it wasn't the best thing out there. But for its time it did what it was supposed to do.
 
I do agree with that. The mastering is not as awful and unprofessional as Thriller 40, it gave us new songs, new footage and it was something new that kept us going for a while

It's just that... compared to Prince and Beatles' estates releases, yes, it wasn't the best thing out there. But for its time it did what it was supposed to do.
Speaking of Prince, have you listened to the Purple Rain 2017 anniversary remaster? Now that one is truly awful. If I understood it correctly, that mix of the album was overseen by Prince himself which makes it all the more baffling to me.
 
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Speaking of Prince, have you listened to the Purple Rain 2017 anniversary remaster? Now that one is truly awful. If I understood it correctly, that mix of the album was overseen by Prince himself which makes it all the more baffling to me.
The 2015 one? Lol. I did. I still think Bad 25's and Thriller 40's were worse. I mean, I get what you're saying but the songs are still in pretty good quality even though the mix is weird. And I like to hear the vocals and instruments in another way from the original. But it's never ultra low quality like Thriller 40.
 
Okay so you’re solely talking about the bad25 remaster then?
Really, the Bad 25 product was a collection of several unrelated items. The most well-known part was the remaster. That was the centerpiece. And it was absolutely terrible.

At this point, I think MoFi are the only people I trust to release a MJ album. Anything else just isn't worth it. The albums already sound great. A rerelease is completely unnecessary.

I was talking about the whole Bad25 package, and that was not an embarrassment.
The other stuff was mixed quality. And all of it should have been released separately. Demos are one thing. Unreleased songs are another. Remixes are another. A documentary is another. The bad tour was amazing - surely it deserves its own release?!

It catered to almost every part of the fan base as well as to new fans.
Jack of all trades, master of none. Just do one thing and do it well.

It did just what an anniversary release is supposed to do.
I'm still at a loss to know why we need an "anniversary release". Because we don't. It's just a sad way for Sony to make money from people who have already paid again and again for the same material. It's disgusting profiteering.

Plus an remaster of an album for anniversary release is very normal anyways.
Only for albums that sound bad to begin with. Something from the 60s, or something from 2010, sure. But not Bad or Thriller.
 
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According to a user on @MJJCommunity there is a source very close to The Estate who has seen screenshots of original 4K scans of Michael's BAD Tour at Wembley Stadium on July 15, 1988... Note: this program also exists in Multitracks, used for the official APOM short film.
 
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But Bad 25 was an embarrassment. Terrible sound quality and really terrible remixes.

Most people feel cheated and have already lost patience with Sony. They will never buy another version of Bad of Thriller, therefore they will miss out on all the new songs you want them to release.
I thought BAD25 was the best release the estate have gave us.

The only issue was not being able to find a high quality HD of the BAD tour.
 
I thought BAD25 was the best release the estate have
It was ok but a few more unreleased songs should have been included.
Bad album is amazing and all the outtakes sounds good or great yet during this
time Michael recorded ….imo…one of the worst songs: We Are Here to Change the World
I cant say anything positive about it and it is a song I never play.
 
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