How do you define the eras?

[Spaceship]

Early years: 1958-1968
Motown: 1969-1975
Jacksons: 1976-1978
Off the Wall: 1979-1981
Thriller: 1982-1985
Bad: 1986-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1993
History: 1994-1998
Invincible: 1999-2002
Final years: 2003-2009

 

[DarylJoel_B]

For me...

Early years: 1958-1968
Motown: 1969-1975
Jacksons: 1976-1978
Off the Wall: 1979-1981
Thriller: 1982-1984
Bad: 1985-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1993
History: 1994-1997
Invincible: 1998-2003
Final years: 2004-2009

 

[83magic]

it’s tricky because the jacksons and the ‘off the wall’ & ‘thriller’ eras merge together.

 

[Richard76]

Early years: 1958-1968
Motown: 1969-1975
Jacksons: 1976-1978
Off the Wall: 1979-1981
Thriller: 1982-1985
Bad: 1986-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1993
History: 1994-1998
Invincible: 1999-2002
Final years: 2003-2009

no no no. It's not how it works)

Here!
Jackson 5 Era: 1958-1978
Off The Wall Era: 1978-1980
Thriller Era: 1980-1985
Bad Era: 1985-1989
Dangerous Era: 1989-1993
History Era: 1993-1997
Blood On The Dance Floor Era: 1997-1998
Invincible Era: 1998-2005
This Is It Era: 2005-2009

 

[Hiker]

I don't see BOTDF as an era, its an extension of history.

 

[DarylJoel_B]

I don't see BOTDF as an era, its an extension of history.

I agree! even though the blood on the dance floor album came out in 1997, the HIStory tour was still going on in 1997, so i consider it the HIStory era still

 

[Richard76]

No) BOTDF is brand new era: it has it's own album, videclips + the whole film! Yes, musically it sounds like mix of History and Dangerous. But, it's not part of History, come on, guys) Also Michael looked the way different during BOTDF Era. He started to change into Invincible Michael and became to look more brutal)

 

[83magic]

how can the ‘thriller’ era begin in 1980 when the album was nowhere near conceived yet? michael was still releasing singles and winning awards for ‘off the wall’ then. ‘triumph’ was released that year as well.

 

[Richard76]

how can the ‘thriller’ era begin in 1980 when the album was nowhere near conceived yet? michael was still releasing singles and winning awards for ‘off the wall’ then. ‘triumph’ was released that year as well.

Because LNFSG and TT were written by that time

 

[DarylJoel_B]

But, it's not part of History, come on, guys)

funny because the full title of the BOTDF album is actually "blood on the dance floor: HIStory in the mix." plus what I mentioned about the HIStory tour was still going on in 1997, it makes sense why many still consider it part of the HIStory era. the five original songs on BOTDF were also part of the Dangerous and HIStory sessions, basically just previously unreleased songs.

also irrelevant but maestro from ghosts is hot as HELL.

 

[DarylJoel_B]

how can the ‘thriller’ era begin in 1980 when the album was nowhere near conceived yet? michael was still releasing singles and winning awards for ‘off the wall’ then. ‘triumph’ was released that year as well.

maybe 1980-1981 could be the Triumph era. or "post OTW, pre Thriller" as I call it. maybe i should've included that in mine. also 1985 and 1989-1990 are kind of like mashup eras to me. Thrad and Badgerous. it's weird, i know. but i've seen those terms used before by other fans.

 

[miikasillanpaa]

You guys seem to know more about the actual eras and how it really is but in my mind things go like this:

Early years (The Jackson 5): 1958-1975
The Jacksons + Off the Wall*: 1975-1984

*for me Off the Wall is like inside the Jacksons era and although Thriller era starts around 1980 i still consider it ALSO as The Jacksons

Thriller: 1980-1985
Bad: 1986-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1994
History (including BOTDF): 1995-1999
Invincible: 2000-2003
Final years: 2004-2009


In a larger scale like this:

Early years: 1958-1984
Young years: 1985-1992
Adult years: 1993-1999
Older years 2000-2008
Final year on earth: 2009

 

[miikasillanpaa]

You guys seem to know more about the actual eras and how it really is but in my mind things go like this:

Early years (The Jackson 5): 1958-1975
The Jacksons + Off the Wall*: 1975-1984

*for me Off the Wall is like inside the Jacksons era and although Thriller era starts around 1980 i still consider it ALSO as The Jacksons

Thriller: 1980-1985
Bad: 1986-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1994
History (including BOTDF): 1995-1999
Invincible: 2000-2003
Final years: 2004-2009


In a larger scale like this:

Early years: 1958-1984
Young years: 1985-1992
Adult years: 1993-1999
Older years 2000-2008
Final year on earth: 2009

Please correct me if im terribly mistaken

 

[Richard76]

funny because the full title of the BOTDF album is actually "blood on the dance floor: HIStory in the mix." plus what I mentioned about the HIStory tour was still going on in 1997, it makes sense why many still consider it part of the HIStory era. the five original songs on BOTDF were also part of the Dangerous and HIStory sessions, basically just previously unreleased songs.


also irrelevant but maestro from ghosts is hot as HELL.

It's no matter at all) BOTDF is the smallest MJ era. That's the point. It has it's own video, promo, album, outtakes. But it's the separate era. It's not part of history. Songs from BOTDF are too brutal to be part of "shiny" History...

Of course maestro is relevant. It shows us that Michael during BOTDF era looked way different. During History he looked sexy and cute, during BOTDF he looks just sexy. Sorry, but it's 2 different Michaels. That's why History and BOTDF are 2 different eras

 

[DarylJoel_B]

During History he looked sexy and cute, during BOTDF he looks just sexy.

just sexy? as if this adorable frame doesn't exist. lmao

and this picture.

also me being a simp for maestro is a whole different matter that has nothing to do with the topic of breaking down michael's eras. that's why i put "irrelevant." i just wanted to include a harmless playful pinch of my gayness. as I do a lot, frequently on this forum.

 

[DarylJoel_B]

You are a gay????? I thought, that I was talking with a girl al this time....

bruh. my signature literally says that i am a male LMAO

but yes. i am, in fact, a gay.

or, mostly gay, i should say. it's kind of complicated but 100% of my attraction is towards an 18 to 20-year-old version of Michael so...

funny fact: when i first saw the title of this thread, i thought it meant, "how do you define the eras" as in "what do they represent to you?" the way i was so ready to say, "jacksons era to off the wall is the literal love of my life." but it's true.

like....... that's my baby

 

[Richard76]

Damn... I though, that I'm the craziest MJ fan in MJJC.... But now.... I understand, that there are people the way crazier than me
Btw, I'm 100% not gay.... I would never think about Michael as my sexual partner or something like that.... But I adore him as a man...For me he is a hero. I love his life style, his habits, the way he presened himself in society. I love his confidence. And yes, looks like we like MJ quite oppositely: my favourite Michael is 100% from Invincible Era. It doesn't mean, that I don't like black MJ from his young years, he is cool too. But Invincible MJ is just totall badass

 

[dethorro]

That's how I personally see the eras:

Off The Wall: September 1978 - September 1981
Thriller: September 1981 - April 1985
Bad: April 1985 - June 1989
Dangerous: June 1989 - January 1994
HIStory: January 1994 - November 1997
Invincible: November 1997 - January 2003

 

[@mjfanatic777]

I agree! even though the blood on the dance floor album came out in 1997, the HIStory tour was still going on in 1997, so i consider it the HIStory era still

same here!

 

[@mjfanatic777]

Kinda you.............but I'm not gonna say anything.........

 

[Hot_Street]

Steeltown Records: 1967-1968
Motown Records: 1969-1975
Sound of Philadelphia: 1976-1977
The real Jacksons: 1978-1989
Off the Wall: 1979-1981
Thriller: 1982-1985
Bad: 1986-1989
Dangerous: 1990-1993
HIStory: 1994-1997
Invincible: 1998-2002
Vindication: 2003-2005
Resurrection: 2005-2009
Immortality: 2009-now

 

[Spaceship]

I consider the early years to be MJ's childhood before fame. The Jackson 5's first album with Motown came out in 1969, so I consider everything before that to be the early years. The Motown era starts in 1969 and ends in 1975, when the Jackson 5 left for CBS.

The Jacksons era starts when they release their first album under that name in 1976. You could say the era technically continued until MJ left the group in 1984, but it practically ended in 1978 as MJ's solo career began to overshadow the band when he released Off the Wall in 1979.

The Off the Wall era starts in 1979 and ends in 1981 with the conclusion of the Triumph tour that promoted it.

The Thriller era starts in 1982. It technically ended in 1984 with the conclusion of the Victory tour that promoted it, but I also consider 1985 to be the Thriller era because it wasn't widely known that he was working on its follow-up yet.

I consider 1986 to be the start of the Bad era because that's when it became widely known that he was working on the album in the press; even its name "Bad" was confirmed then. The Bad music video and cover were also shot in 1986. The era ends with the conclusion of its namesake tour in 1989.

It was widely known that MJ was working on new material for a greatest hits album in 1990. Since that planned greatest hits album turned into Dangerous, I consider 1990 to be the start of the Dangerous era. It ends with the conclusion of the namesake tour in 1993.

The History era starts in 1994, when it was widely known that MJ was working on his next album after Dangerous; even its name "History" was confirmed then. Many photoshoots and videos promoting History were also shot in 1994. Although the era formally ends in 1997 with the conclusion of its namesake tour, I still consider 1998 to be the History era as it wasn't widely known that MJ was working on a new album at this time. I've no issue with 1998 being considered Invincible, though.

1999 was when it was first formally announced that MJ was working on a new album, so I consider that the start of the Invincible era. The album was supposed to come out that year before MJ delayed it. Pretty sure that the Invincible cover was shot by Andy Warhol in 1999, too. Promotion for the album ended in 2002, so I consider that to be the end of the era.

The remaining years of MJ's life I consider to be the final years. Nothing significant really went on career-wise until 2009, when he announced This Is It, which unfortunately didn't happen.

 

[wonderouzmj]

The Thriller era starts in 1982. It technically ended in 1984 with the conclusion of the Victory tour that promoted it, but I also consider 1985 to be the Thriller era because it wasn't widely known that he was working on its follow-up yet.

Well... dirty diana & Liberian Girl were written & demoed in 1984 so.....idk bout that 1

 

[Spaceship]

Well... dirty diana & Liberian Girl were written & demoed in 1984 so.....idk bout that 1

That wasn't widely known. I don't define the start of the eras by when their songs are first worked on for their corresponding albums, but when it's public knowledge that they're being worked on. MJ's next album wasn't really talked about in 1984 because people were too busy talking about Thriller and the Victory tour.

 

[Hiker]

@Richard76 Please stop derailing the threads and bullying other members.

 

[Richard76]

oh. i forgot to press reply button

 

[Richard76]

@Richard76 Please stop derailing the threads and bullying other members.

I'm not! Sorry, I was just explaining to DarylJoel_B my personal opinion. Sorry for being a little bit off topic

 

[Richard76]

bruh. my signature literally says that i am a male LMAO

but yes. i am, in fact, a gay.

or, mostly gay, i should say. it's kind of complicated but 100% of my attraction is towards an 18 to 20-year-old version of Michael so...

funny fact: when i first saw the title of this thread, i thought it meant, "how do you define the eras" as in "what do they represent to you?" the way i was so ready to say, "jacksons era to off the wall is the literal love of my life." but it's true.

like....... that's my baby

Well, sorry, but you can't just talk to me in private without my permission) Because this is hypocrisy... And yes, I'm not i'm not homophobic at all. I don't want any harm to you and your people. I just said, that i find fantasizing about celebrities in sexual way gross. I was brought up that way. And you can't change it) I know, you feel offended by my ideology and you hate me, because of who I am... But it won't change anything. If you like to fantasize about MJ - that's you choice. I don't care. But please, no need to be so aggresive. I just stated my own opinion. I don't want to offend anybody on this forum, especially you. So, wish you good luck and good evening! Peace

 

[mj_frenzy]

The start of the 'Dangerous' era was 1989, not 1990.

Michael Jackson in 1989 started working with Bryan Loren on his new album (that would become the 'Dangerous' album).

The 'Dangerous' era ends in 1994, because (according to press reports) Michael Jackson in 1994 was secretly planning to resume his Dangerous Tour.

Also, the start of the 'Invincible' era was 1998, not 1999.

Michael Jackson in late 1998 started working on the 'Invincible' album.

 

[dam2040]

I'd personally say for solo MJ certain eras were a year. For example Invincible, I'd have it as 2001, maybe 2002 as well at a push.

Yes, he may have started work on it in 1998 but I definitely wouldn't connect 1998-2000 with Invincible.