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How has or has your perspective on, value for and understanding of Michael Jackson changed? Why?

gucci123

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Feel free to be completely honest. What has changed your perspective on, value for and understanding of Michael Jackson - good, bad, ugly, and why?
 
I personally think that more recently I've have been able to come to terms with and accept that MJ had a toxic side and was narcissistic. I think he blame shifted and made excuses for himself, and played a victim a lot. He used his childhood and feelings as a crutch and means to justify himself. He wanted friends and relationships but I don't think he didn't wanted the honesty or accountability that came with developing them, that's why he was lonely.

Feel free to add your own perspectives or agree or disagree :)
 
Good q ! For me it is the opposite of yours - despite his many shortcomings and struggles ( demons and trauma) . I realise now just how much he had to endure and how much he gave and did quite privately too - but when he was alive we only ever heard the sensationalist stuff and the poor man was always having to wade through it to get his art and message across… I remember feeling deflated and at times annoyed by his behaviour to interviews etc particularly 2000s onwards and now I realise I was very naive to think that he wasn’t aware of it or didn’t care. In reality he was a very measured and simple man that just couldn’t catch a break. I feel so sad he didn’t receive the respect he deserved 🙏🏽
 
TeaMJ said:
Good q ! For me it is the opposite of yours - despite his many shortcomings and struggles ( demons and trauma) . I realise now just how much he had to endure and how much he gave and did quite privately too - but when he was alive we only ever heard the sensationalist stuff and the poor man was always having to wade through it to get his art and message across… I remember feeling deflated and at times annoyed by his behaviour to interviews etc particularly 2000s onwards and now I realise I was very naive to think that he wasn’t aware of it or didn’t care. In reality he was a very measured and simple man that just couldn’t catch a break. I feel so sad he didn’t receive the respect he deserved 🙏🏽
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I get what you're saying. I was annoyed about how closed off and bashful he was but honestly I realized I would be the exact same say. I commend him for being a private person and closed off.
 
gucci123 said:
I personally think that more recently I've have been able to come to terms with and accept that MJ had a toxic side and was narcissistic. I think he blame shifted and made excuses for himself, and played a victim a lot. He used his childhood and feelings as a crutch and means to justify himself. He wanted friends and relationships but I don't think he didn't wanted the honesty or accountability that came with developing them, that's why he was lonely.

Feel free to add your own perspectives or agree or disagree :)
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My perspective is…..it’s you again, trolling.

Again, I would encourage the community to report this clown.
 
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Before I became a fan, I believed everything the media told me, that he was a pedo, all he did was get plastic surgery, he was a scary looking weirdo, and that he danced good. I then got depression and got real into all types of music (specifically rock). One day Bad by MJ came on my feed so i just watched the music video and thought it was really good. So I started watching more of his music videos and listening to more of his music, I knew who MJ was my entire life but it was at that moment that I realized he was really the king of pop. Then I started investigating him as a person and realized that I was completely lied to and that he was truly a great person and genuinely wanted to help children in need and that he cared for others over himself. My depression has been decreasing since I’ve been a fan of his and I’m so glad that their are other fans who I’m able to speak with and discuss MJ with and his awesomeness
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Who is he?
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Not a clue mate. But you don’t land in a fan community and be outright disrespectful to that degree. I’m not having that. Michael and his fans have had several lifetimes worth of enough crap to deal with. There’s a way to have an opinion, to say things, to critique.

I appreciate you by the way and enjoy your posts.
 
First things first:
What a convoluted shitty mess of a failed attempt to phrase this question!

Secondly:
After observing what was done to MJ during is lifetime & still is being done after he is long gone, I can only express my compassion for him & commend him for keeping his composure & his principles together in light of all the wrong accusations, backstabbers & shady suckers in his circle.
MJ certainly wasn’t perfect (who is though?) & he probably did some people wrong, but no wonder in light of all the things he had to endure.
 
Whoops I had no idea I was responding to a troll! I did think it was a rather odd take on a man we know damn well had the worst public lynching known … but still thought I’d answer!!!
 
TeaMJ said:
Whoops I had no idea I was responding to a troll! I did think it was a rather odd take on a man we know damn well had the worst public lynching known … but still thought I’d answer!!!
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PUBLIC LYNCHING THAT IS A PROFOUND STATEMENT. MUCH LOVE TO THAT STATEMENT.
 
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My thoughts and feelings about Michael have definitely changed over the years. When I was a child, I practically idolized him, listening to his music almost every day and watching his videos repeatedly. Then when I was 13, the first allegations hit...and as someone who actually was abused myself, I felt trapped on multiple levels. He'd become a role model to me, but on another hand all I could think was, "My God...could he really do something so terrible, to someone like me?" The American press certainly didn't help any, so I was locked into an internal emotional war for about 12 years. I still enjoyed most of his music, but part of me also felt like a self-deluded hypocrite.

By 2005, I thought I'd gotten past most of my worries...and then the trial happened. My initial response was simple - "Aw, hell - not this shit again." I watched some of the coverage on occasion, but so much of it was outright toxic I ignored probably 90% of it, and just prayed for justice and the truth to win...whatever that meant. When he was found innocent, a large part of my own heart breathed a sigh of relief, but I still had some lingering doubts. Reading Aphrodite Jones' book Michael Jackson Conspiracy helped settle my mind a lot though, at least regarding Tom Sneddon, the Arvizos, and the Chandlers.

After Michael passed, I was very saddened like most of his fans. I felt so terrible for all his kids though, especially after seeing Paris break down at the memorial. But I was also angry that the press never let up on him, and now its become ten times worse with Robson and Safechuck's continued smears, aided by the traitorous Oprah Winfrey no less. I'm really hoping the upcoming biopic helps better Michael's reputation and legacy, because he deserved so much better than the condemnations he so often received. Was he a saint or an angel, without any flaws? Hardly - he suffered from many insecurities and a few well-documented addictions. But he was not a monster or devil - its way past time so many in the world stopped treating him like one.
 
MJ used his father Joe as an excuse to explain his addiction to nose surgeries. It may be a part of the image he wants public to understand.
 
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