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It's another Invincible thread. But this one's different

What songs to dump?

  • Heartbreaker

  • Invincible

  • Break of Dawn

  • Heaven Can Wait

  • 2000 Watts

  • You Are My Life

  • Privacy

  • Don't Walk Away

  • Cry

  • The Lost Children

Results are only viewable after voting.
I would rename the album UNBREAKABLE & have that song close the album instead.
I would also dump INVINCIBLE; 2000 WATTS; YOU ARE MY LIFE; PRIVACY; DON'T WALK AWAY; CRY and THE LOST CHILDREN and replace them with other songs already recorded at the time.

XSCAPE (original)
HEARTBREAKER
YOU ROCK MY WORD (without spoken intro)
THE WAY YOU LOVE ME
BUTTERFLIES
BREAK OF DAWN
SPEECHLESS
THREATENED
HOLLYWOOD TONIGHT
WHATEVER HAPPENS
(CHICAGO) SHE WAS LOVIN' ME (original)
A PLACE WITH NO NAME (original)
HEAVEN CAN WAIT
ONE MORE CHANCE
WE'VE HAD ENOUGH
UNBREAKABLE
 
Per the voting for the KOP album, the order is as follows:

16 You Rock My World
5 Speechless
4 Whatever Happens
3 Butterflies
2 Break of Dawn
2 Invincible
1 Cry
1 Unbreakable
1 You Are My Life

In other words, the songs where there weren't any countries that wanted them were:

0 Heartbreaker
0 Heaven Can Wait
0 2000 Watts
0 Privacy
0 Don't Walk Away
0 The Lost Children
0 Threatened
 
At the end of the day Invincible was MJ’s last official album that he approved and agreed to, so for that reason alone I wouldn’t change a thing apart from it being mixed and mastered to a much better dynamic range.

That’s it! Everything else, all of the other wonderful tracks he didn’t include should be put on their own disc and mixed and mastered to the same standards as a new Invincible mix/master and it should all be presented together as a new version of Invincible and it should be given a second chance for re-evaluation, and they should also release the new mix/master as a single disc as the new standard.
 
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If you begin to tamper with the track sequence and dump this track here and add that track there, then you begin to move farther away from MJ’s involvement and it looses value. For good or bad Invincible is a Michael Jackson album, and for that alone it has an intrinsic value that you simply can’t get without his involvement.
 
When i hear all the Writer Demos then i can say there is no 0,00% of Michaels Own Artisticaly Power and love inside, its Just an album where he was singing the writer demos 1:1 (like a Karaoke Album) without Soul example:




 
R1chard said:
So, I was reading some reviews of the album, and the very first one on RYM says "The Best Pop Album of The 2000s. This album is mad underated the only problem I i essentially found with this album is Its Length. If it would of took 3 tracks off Preferably 2000 Watts, The Lost Children, You Are My Life which are the lows of the album this album would have been as very good."

The second one says "This should have been less than an hour long, but it passes the 75 minute mark and is just dragging by the time you hit the pretentious 'Cry'."

The third one says "The only problem of this album is that it's way too long. It clocks at nearly 80 minutes! It means, that songs like "Privacy", "You Are My Life" and especially "The Lost Children"
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What? TLC is one of the best tracks on Invincible!

Obviously we can dump 2 songs - 2W and Privacy. But I would also get rid of DWA. This song is just too sad and too mediocre. It's also similar to You Are My Life, which I prefer.

So 13 tracks would be fine
 
That song isn't really about kids, just MJ's own childhood. And it was polarizing, because critics saw it as self-pity. Song is kinda hysterical, actually.
 
TheXscapeR said:
I can live without Heaven Can Wait, Cry and Privacy. They are... definitely not great. To be honest I feel the same about The Lost Children too, but eh if I had to pick 3 to remove, those would be my picks
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I think you can vote for 4...
 
I don’t get it... Can someone explain to me why people think The Lost Children is the worst song on the album? I understand why you might not like Privacy, You Are My Life, 2000 Watts, or Cry - those four tracks are honestly the weakest on the record for many pretty obvious reasons.
But The Lost Children? It’s got solid vocals, a good chorus... I’m not saying it’s one of the best. Obviously it's not. But it’s a decent middle-of-the-road track. It’s better than Don't Walk Away, though not as good as Heartbreaker
 
Paul MCC said:
I don’t get it... Can someone explain to me why people think The Lost Children is the worst song on the album? I understand why you might not like Privacy, You Are My Life, 2000 Watts, or Cry - those four tracks are honestly the weakest on the record for many pretty obvious reasons.
But The Lost Children? It’s got solid vocals, a good chorus... I’m not saying it’s one of the best. Obviously it's not. But it’s a decent middle-of-the-road track. It’s better than Don't Walk Away, though not as good as Heartbreaker
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The Lost Children is my favorite song from the album
 
I’d dump Privacy, Cry and also change the order of the tracklist. I like 2000 watts and tlc but can see why you would dump those too.

I also think some of the unreleased tracks are better than songs on the album (Xscape, APWNN, We’ve had enough), and some unfinished with great potential (Beautiful Girl, Fall Again, Monster, Hollywood Tonight)

I’d def keep Unbreakable, Break Of Dawn, HCW, YRMW, Speechless, Butterflies, Whatever Happens and Threatened.

Those 8 songs in itself would already be a solid album.

Maybe keep DWA and add the finished songs I mentioned above and you’ve got a peak MJ album

Then use Shout and 2000 watts as B-sides.
I think GYWOOM is solid too (yes I’m still waiting for the lossless file), but don’t think it would’ve fit on the album.
 
michaeljackson.nl said:
I’d dump Privacy, Cry and also change the order of the tracklist. I like 2000 watts and tlc but can see why you would dump those too.

I also think some of the unreleased tracks are better than songs on the album (Xscape, APWNN, We’ve had enough), and some unfinished with great potential (Beautiful Girl, Fall Again, Monster, Hollywood Tonight)

I’d def keep Unbreakable, Break Of Dawn, HCW, YRMW, Speechless, Butterflies, Whatever Happens and Threatened.

Those 8 songs in itself would already be a solid album.

Maybe keep DWA and add the finished songs I mentioned above and you’ve got a peak MJ album

Then use Shout and 2000 watts as B-sides.
I think GYWOOM is solid too (yes I’m still waiting for the lossless file), but don’t think it would’ve fit on the album.
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GYWOOM is catchy, but to me, it feels like a very rough demo. It sounds like Michael just did one quick take and never touched it again. Vocally, this song needs a massive amount of work. As for Shout.... I don’t like it... I’m not even sure which one is worse, Privacy or Shout. Privacy is bad, but at least I can make out Michael’s lyrics and what he’s singing about. Shout is just messy, incoherent mumbling into the mic. Whenever I listen to it, it just grates on my brain. Maybe Michael was trying for something like Morphine, but it ended up sounding really poor
 
"Break of Dawn" and "Heaven Can Wait" shouldn't be on this poll lol. They're essential Invincible tracks. Otherwise, you should've included "Butterflies".

Anyway, I don't really mind any of the songs on the album. I would've just rearranged the track list.
 
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