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Waw 145 without hardship. They did this very quickly. Things seem to be rolling along very nicely to me, unless Muarry's team thinks up some new unheard of delay. Let's hope Muarry does not get the chicken pocks.
 
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That is how it works in the US--you are innocent until proven guilty. So, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution. They have to prove that Muarry is guilty. If they do not, even though Muarry is guilty, Murray will go free.

I really :pray: murray doesnt go free as he is guilty imo
 
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^^Yes, keep praying and keeping a positive attitude. We expect the prosecution to be prepared and ready to present the evidence. Muarry cannot go free. It is safer for him to be in prison.
 
Wow! Is it really so bizarre and unfair... :(
Thats how it works in every democratic legit country.its the cornerstone of the justice system.in 99% of cases if u are guity the evidence will show it.the problem is the jury tainting that goes on in the usa compaired to other countries
 
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Just looked through it - wow, the defense would so want to get rid of me, haha, with being a member here, etc. But at the same time, they might find me a bit confusing, since I used to be somewhat close to a doctor for more than a decade (a pretty bad doctor in my opinion, but they didn't ask that) and have a little bit of experience with a few of the meds mentioned and know or knew people who took similar meds at times. Not sure about the meds question and if they'd think my answer would be a good thing or a bad thing (as in ... do they think someone who has some kind of experience knows where a doctor would draw the line or if they think being given those kind of meds is something that is not a foreign concept to you and the Propofol doesn't really shock you - also the question if you are aware of the side effects, I am, and I guess they think that would be a good thing - like this was just an accident, a "side effect" of Propofol).
 
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Oh Oh^^ do I smell another idea of the defense, that Michael's death was due to the side effects of the drugs. Regardless of the questionnaire, the facts and evidence will win over personal thoughts and opinions of the jurors.
 
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They always went the side effet route by trying to bring in the demoral.

the side effect that caused what to happen was that murray didnt watch his paitent and use any equipment.thats one hell of a side
effect
 
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Oh Oh^^ do I smell another idea of the defense, that Michael's death was due to the side effects of the drugs.

That wouldn't work. Doesn't mean they won't try. But administering Propofol at home, for insomnia (and not for surgery at a hospital) without any monitoring with the right equipment and somebody there just to monitor - if something goes wrong in this context, those are not "side effects". Giving Propofol for insomnia (even with monitoring) alone would be at least negligent, Propofol is never used for insomnia. That's probably the worst off-label use I have ever heard of.

I'm looking through the preliminary hearing threads and just came across this:

He comes back after 2 minutes and stunned to see that MJ wasn’t breathing, because he always looked at his chest and his diaphramatic motion.

That is so totally shocking ... if that is his understanding of how you "monitor" a patient on Propofol.
 
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While sat on the phone or phones!
 
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I would prefer a professional jury like we are in France. Because a jury with normal people like us or other, haters per example, can just say " guilty ! I'm a MJ fan so go in jail bastard ! or " nor guilty ! I hate this Jackson guy, so I don't care if he died "

You know what I mean ? Professional jury judge straight with the proof, and there are enough proof to send Murray in jail without trial in fact

And to stop him to practice his fake medecine.
 
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Milka I know, but they will still try. Has any defense they put forward so far make sense, NO. However, if they could dirty up Michael as revenge for not winning this case, they will do it.

Was Frank going to comment on how Michael looked during rehearsals like Kenny has to?
 
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Maybe Mr. DiLeo has delivered a written statement at the court before his death. (?)

He might haved as he was sick and wrote incase he didnt make it . Unfortnately he didnt and passed away :(
 
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Milka Was Frank going to comment on how Michael looked during rehearsals like Kenny has to?

Or may be he will just be mentioned during the trial. Remember, this is a list of potential witnesses and people who may be mentioned.
 
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his name was defo reported on inregards to the first list

and u cant cross a statement it wouldnt be fair
 
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Lawyers in Murray trial using Facebook, Twitter to screen jurors


By Michael Cary, CNN
updated 8:24 AM EST, Wed September 21, 2011 |

Los Angeles (CNN) -- After approximately a week of poring over 145 jury questionnaires, lawyers in the trial of Michael Jackson's doctor are due in court Wednesday to discuss removing jurors whose answers they believe should disqualify them from hearing the case.

But legal experts say prosecutors and defense attorneys in the Conrad Murray trial will be doing more than simply screening jurors based on their answers to the more than 100 questions filled out on September 8 and 9. They'll also be scrutinizing what prospective jurors may have said outside the courthouse and online about events surrounding the June 2009 death of pop star Michael Jackson.

"This is the world of social media, and it directly impacts criminal trials," said Thomas Mesereau, the attorney who successfully defended Jackson during his 2005 molestation trial. "I have no doubt that both sides will hire competent people to explore every aspect of social media to try and find out whatever they can about these jurors, and also to see if these potential jurors have communicated themselves with anyone else about this case."

The questionnaire asks whether potential jurors "ever posted any blogs or posted comments on any internet sites" and goes on to specifically ask whether the individual "accessed or posted" any comments about Murray, who is accused of administering a lethal dose of drugs to Jackson
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"I think it is safe to say that contemporary trial practice dictates that you make an effort to find out whatever information you can about jurors," Los Angeles defense attorney Shepard Kopp said. "If somebody has a Facebook page where the settings are public, and you can see what their interests are, you can very well learn valuable information there."

A simple Internet search can link attorneys to prospective jurors' blogs, tweets and postings on social networking sites to see if they have commented on a specific case. It also may offer insight into jurors' psyches.

"Any information you can get on a prospective juror is helpful, because you have such a short period of time in which to evaluate who the person is that is ultimately going to be making a very important decision in the case," said Richard Gabriel, a jury consultant with Decision Analysis.

Gabriel has been advising attorneys for 25 years on such high-profile murder cases as O.J. Simpson's and Casey Anthony's. He says screening jurors today is easier because of the amount of information people share on the Internet.

"If they have a Twitter account, it can give you a little bit more about how they interact with the rest of the world, not just in a courtroom setting," he said.

But Gabriel added that it is rare for a legal team to have time to do such vetting of prospective jurors, because jury selection is completed within hours in a vast majority of trials, not over several weeks as in the Anthony case (and most likely Murray's as well).

"The last thing you want to be doing in jury selection is research on your laptop computer in court," Kopp, the attorney, said about finding time to vet jurors. "That can send the message to the jurors that you are engaged in some other kind of work and you are not interested enough in the case you are trying."

And who knows what the reaction might be if jurors knew they were the ones being judged online -- to determine if they were fit to sit in judgment.

Opening statements for the trial, which will be televised, are scheduled for September 27. The trial is expected to last about a month.

If convicted of the involuntary manslaughter charge, Murray could face up to four years in prison.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/20/tech/...a-jurors-murray/index.html?section=cnn_latest




 
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Selection to begin at 0800 pst from appox 70 people that are left. is there any news as to whether this part will be televised?
 
[h=1]Conrad Murray jury selection will be quick[/h] [h=2]The judge in the manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's doctor is allowing lawyers only half the usual time to question potential panelists as they cull the pool.[/h]http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0923-conrad-murray-20110924,0,7904537.story

By Harriet Ryan, Los Angeles Times September 23, 2011

If, as is often said, trials are won or lost in the selection of jurors, the fate of Michael Jackson's doctor may be sealed Friday when a pool of prospective jurors is narrowed to a dozen.

That jury is expected to spend about five weeks hearing testimony about the music icon's final days and the culpability of Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's $150,000-a-month personal physician who gave him the surgical anesthetic propofol as a sleep aid.

The approximately 145 potential jurors are already well-known to both sides, thanks to what the judge in the case has called "the most complete questionnaire ever" — 32 pages of questions about their background, job history, views of Jackson and exposure to the media coverage of his 2009 overdose. In an initial screening earlier this month, every potential juror said they had some knowledge of the involuntary manslaughter case against Murray.

Because the questionnaire is so thorough, Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor has said he will allow attorneys only half the normally allotted time to question the would-be jurors as a group in court.

With less than a minute per potential juror, lawyers are likely to have decided beforehand "whether they want to keep them or get rid of them," said Richard Hirschorn, a veteran Texas jury consultant.

Murray's defense lawyers retained an unidentified jury consultant to help evaluate the questionnaires. The prosecutor's office has used such consultants in the past but elected not to this time.

"It's very lean times for public prosecutors' offices," said Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office.

In evaluating the questionnaires, experts said, both sides are likely to home in on the questions they care about most. Hirschorn said prosecutors might focus on what jurors wrote about their experiences with doctors and prescription drugs. Particularly revealing, he said, was the question, "Has a physician ever refused to prescribe a medication that you specifically requested?"

"That's the prosecution case in one sentence — Murray should have said no" to his famous patient, Hirschorn said. People who have been turned down by doctors may be more critical of Murray's acquiescence: "I'm putting them on the jury 99 out of 100 times," he said.

Questions about how closely they followed other high-profile legal cases, including the recent Casey Anthony murder trial in Florida, might draw close scrutiny also, said Richard Gabriel, a jury consultant who worked for music producer Phil Spector's murder defense. He said jurors interested in true crime stories covered obsessively by such cable news hosts as Nancy Grace "tend to be pretty pro-prosecution."

Justice, on such programs, "has become code for conviction," he said.

Attorneys might also zero in on potential jurors' experiences with drug and alcohol addiction, the subject of three questions. Hirschorn said people who have dealt with substance abuse would probably be more open to Murray's claim that Jackson begged for propofol and gave himself the fatal dose.

"If they know somebody who has been addicted, then they know that person will do whatever they have to to get drugs," Hirschorn said.

Legal teams typically rank jurors from one to five based on their answers and information turned up by Internet or public searches. In court Friday, experts said, both sides are likely to focus on the jurors they rank as ones — the worst for their case.

"It's not a matter of picking the people you want. It's really a de-selection process: getting rid of the worst of the worst and hoping the ones that are left can be fair," said Hirschorn, who worked for the defense in the William Kennedy Smith rape trial in the early 1990s.

Both sides can excuse 10 potential jurors without giving a reason. Additionally, they can ask the judge to remove anyone who shows bias.

But Howard Varinsky, the jury consultant for prosecutors in the trials of Scott Peterson and Martha Stewart, said the short time for questioning jurors in Murray's case will probably hurt lawyers' attempts to tease out bias.

"It usually takes about five, six … minutes" of questioning, Varinsky said. "When you've got one minute, you can't do it. You're handcuffed."

The limited time also constrains follow-up questions, such as in the case of jurors who check a box identifying themselves as Jackson fans, Gabriel said.

"You don't know if that means 'I've seen every concert and own every album' or 'I just really liked "Thriller,"'" he said.
 
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Less than a minute per potential juror seems a little extreme... You'll only be able to exchange "hello's" and the time's up.
 
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That doesnt sound right must be an error less then a min per Jurer. That would be impossible.
I believe I just heard 20 max which seems a more accurate statement
 
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Yeah its 20 mins per jurror
 
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38 approx potentional jurrors in court at the mo according to insession
 
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At #ConradMurray jury selection: room inside for only two pool reporters, no messaging from inside, no in/out, so no update till recess.
 
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Group of 10 potential jurors for #ConradMurray just led from courtroom...presumably first batch excused during voir dire questioning.
 
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#ConradMurray attorney Ed Chernoff to prospective jurors: "Part of this trial frankly is going to be about Micharl Jackson's life."

InSession In Session
#ConradMurray 's attny asked potential jurors Do you believe #MichaelJackson is less capable of making decisions that somebody else his age?

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#ConradMurray attorney Chernoff asked prospective jurors if Michael Jackson was "childlike...not capable of making decisions?"


InSession In Session
The defense also asked: Do you believe #MichaeJackson should be held to a different level of responsibility than somebody his age?

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One more question from #ConradMurray ‘s defense: Does anybody believe that Dr. Murray is partially responsible for #MichaelJackson ‘s death?



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Kudos to AP's Linda Deutsch and CNS's Terry Vermeulen, serving as pool reporters during morning jury selection session for


Civil rights attorney Connie Rice Among potential jurors? (I can see this in text but no reference as yet...willupdate if / when I have it...assume its for the same trial....)
 
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thank you guys for all the case updates. Man this is gonna be rough,,,:(
 
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