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Oh god no that is gonna be horrible if this trial will still be on during michael's annivarsy
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Oh god no that is gonna be horrible if this trial will still be on during michael's annivarsy
Connections hamper jury selection in Jackson case
By LINDA DEUTSCH | Associated Press – 2 hrs 19 mins ago
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The extensive connections of Michael Jackson, his family and friends became a challenge Monday for a judge trying to seat an impartial jury for his mother's wrongful death lawsuit against the company that promoted Jackson's ill-fated "This is It" concert.
As individual questioning finally began, some jury prospects who had passed the written portion of the process had to be excused because of personal connections.
Among them was David Walsh, a Canadian singer-songwriter who said he had met members of the musical Jackson family and was friends with Lisa Marie Presley, Jackson's ex-wife. He said his own manager was on the witness list.
"I've had friends in Michael's band and my best friend was a backup singer on the "This Is It" concert," Walsh said.
Walsh said he had formed opinions about the case that were probably unshakable.
Katherine Jackson's suit claims AEG endangered Jackson's life by hiring an incompetent doctor, Conrad Murray, to look after the superstar singer. AEG lawyers are expected to argue that Jackson was complicit in his own demise by insisting on hiring Murray and demanding the anesthetic propofol to help him sleep.
The latest phase of jury selection came after jurors filled out questionnaires about their views on Jackson, his family and his life and death.
A preliminary group of 104 prospects was immediately reduced by six when members reported hardships or acquaintances on the witness list.
A medical student said one of her UCLA professors was on the list, but she was allowed to remain when she said she would have no bias about the testimony.
Another panelist said she and her husband do business with one of the law firms involved in the case and that would get in the way of her impartiality.
Murray is serving a prison term after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death from an overdose of propofol. Jackson died in his bed in June 2009 at the age of 50.
Complicating the case is the fact that neither Jackson nor AEG had signed Murray's $150,000 a month contract. Jackson died before Murray was paid.
Katherine Jackson's lawyers contend AEG was negligent in failing to investigate Murray's qualifications before hiring him.
http://news.yahoo.com/connections-hamper-jury-selection-jackson-case-211211752.html
By LINDA DEUTSCH | Associated Press – 2 hrs 19 mins ago
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The extensive connections of Michael Jackson, his family and friends became a challenge Monday for a judge trying to seat an impartial jury for his mother's wrongful death lawsuit against the company that promoted Jackson's ill-fated "This is It" concert.
As individual questioning finally began, some jury prospects who had passed the written portion of the process had to be excused because of personal connections.
Among them was David Walsh, a Canadian singer-songwriter who said he had met members of the musical Jackson family and was friends with Lisa Marie Presley, Jackson's ex-wife. He said his own manager was on the witness list.
"I've had friends in Michael's band and my best friend was a backup singer on the "This Is It" concert," Walsh said.
Walsh said he had formed opinions about the case that were probably unshakable.
Katherine Jackson's suit claims AEG endangered Jackson's life by hiring an incompetent doctor, Conrad Murray, to look after the superstar singer. AEG lawyers are expected to argue that Jackson was complicit in his own demise by insisting on hiring Murray and demanding the anesthetic propofol to help him sleep.
The latest phase of jury selection came after jurors filled out questionnaires about their views on Jackson, his family and his life and death.
A preliminary group of 104 prospects was immediately reduced by six when members reported hardships or acquaintances on the witness list.
A medical student said one of her UCLA professors was on the list, but she was allowed to remain when she said she would have no bias about the testimony.
Another panelist said she and her husband do business with one of the law firms involved in the case and that would get in the way of her impartiality.
Murray is serving a prison term after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death from an overdose of propofol. Jackson died in his bed in June 2009 at the age of 50.
Complicating the case is the fact that neither Jackson nor AEG had signed Murray's $150,000 a month contract. Jackson died before Murray was paid.
Katherine Jackson's lawyers contend AEG was negligent in failing to investigate Murray's qualifications before hiring him.
http://news.yahoo.com/connections-hamper-jury-selection-jackson-case-211211752.html
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I see the last part was this: "The latest phase of jury selection came after jurors filled out questionnaires about their views on Jackson, his family and his life and death." I wonder if there is a part about AEG & the jurors views on the corporation?
If they are having problems selecting the panel, it is all the lawyers & family's fault for trying this case in the public with their constant statements and the purposeful leaking of information.
If they are having problems selecting the panel, it is all the lawyers & family's fault for trying this case in the public with their constant statements and the purposeful leaking of information.
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Connections hamper jury selection in wrongful death lawsuit involving Michael Jackson
By Associated Press, Tuesday, April 16, 2:10 AM
LOS ANGELES — The extensive connections of Michael Jackson, his family and friends became a challenge Monday for a judge trying to seat an impartial jury for his mother’s wrongful death lawsuit against the company that promoted Jackson’s ill-fated “This is It” concert.
As individual questioning finally began, some jury prospects who had passed the written portion of the process had to be excused because of personal connections.
Among them was David Walsh, a Canadian singer-songwriter who said he had met members of the musical Jackson family and was friends with Lisa Marie Presley, Jackson’s ex-wife. He said his own manager was on the witness list.
“I’ve had friends in Michael’s band and my best friend was a backup singer on the ‘This Is It’ concert,” Walsh said.
Walsh said he had formed opinions about the case that were probably unshakable.
Katherine Jackson’s suit claims AEG endangered Jackson’s life by hiring an incompetent doctor, Conrad Murray, to look after the superstar singer. AEG lawyers are expected to argue that Jackson was complicit in his own demise by insisting on hiring Murray and demanding the anesthetic propofol to help him sleep.
The latest phase of jury selection came after jurors filled out questionnaires about their views on Jackson, his family and his life and death.
A preliminary group of 104 prospects was immediately reduced by six when members reported hardships or acquaintances on the witness list.
A medical student said one of her UCLA professors was on the list, but she was allowed to remain when she said she would have no bias about the testimony.
Another panelist said she and her husband do business with one of the law firms involved in the case and that would get in the way of her impartiality.
A woman who is a superior court judge said she knew a number of people on the witness list but it would not interfere with her ability to be impartial, and she remained on the panel.
By day’s end, 17 prospects had been excused, most because the extended length of the trial would cause them financial hardships. The case is expected to last through the summer.
More panelists sent notes to Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos before court recessed for the day, asking to be excused. She said she would consider their requests Tuesday.
One member of the jury pool said he had met Dr. Conrad Murray at a barbecue sometime after Jackson’s death and they had a social conversation. But he said he didn’t realize who Murray was, and once he did he stopped talking to him. He remained on the panel.
Murray is serving a prison term after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death from an overdose of propofol. Jackson died in his bed in June 2009 at the age of 50.
Complicating the case is the fact that neither Jackson nor AEG had signed Murray’s $150,000-a-month contract. Jackson died before Murray was paid.
Katherine Jackson’s lawyers contend AEG was negligent in failing to investigate Murray’s qualifications before hiring him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...3d750a-a632-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html
By Associated Press, Tuesday, April 16, 2:10 AM
LOS ANGELES — The extensive connections of Michael Jackson, his family and friends became a challenge Monday for a judge trying to seat an impartial jury for his mother’s wrongful death lawsuit against the company that promoted Jackson’s ill-fated “This is It” concert.
As individual questioning finally began, some jury prospects who had passed the written portion of the process had to be excused because of personal connections.
Among them was David Walsh, a Canadian singer-songwriter who said he had met members of the musical Jackson family and was friends with Lisa Marie Presley, Jackson’s ex-wife. He said his own manager was on the witness list.
“I’ve had friends in Michael’s band and my best friend was a backup singer on the ‘This Is It’ concert,” Walsh said.
Walsh said he had formed opinions about the case that were probably unshakable.
Katherine Jackson’s suit claims AEG endangered Jackson’s life by hiring an incompetent doctor, Conrad Murray, to look after the superstar singer. AEG lawyers are expected to argue that Jackson was complicit in his own demise by insisting on hiring Murray and demanding the anesthetic propofol to help him sleep.
The latest phase of jury selection came after jurors filled out questionnaires about their views on Jackson, his family and his life and death.
A preliminary group of 104 prospects was immediately reduced by six when members reported hardships or acquaintances on the witness list.
A medical student said one of her UCLA professors was on the list, but she was allowed to remain when she said she would have no bias about the testimony.
Another panelist said she and her husband do business with one of the law firms involved in the case and that would get in the way of her impartiality.
A woman who is a superior court judge said she knew a number of people on the witness list but it would not interfere with her ability to be impartial, and she remained on the panel.
By day’s end, 17 prospects had been excused, most because the extended length of the trial would cause them financial hardships. The case is expected to last through the summer.
More panelists sent notes to Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos before court recessed for the day, asking to be excused. She said she would consider their requests Tuesday.
One member of the jury pool said he had met Dr. Conrad Murray at a barbecue sometime after Jackson’s death and they had a social conversation. But he said he didn’t realize who Murray was, and once he did he stopped talking to him. He remained on the panel.
Murray is serving a prison term after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death from an overdose of propofol. Jackson died in his bed in June 2009 at the age of 50.
Complicating the case is the fact that neither Jackson nor AEG had signed Murray’s $150,000-a-month contract. Jackson died before Murray was paid.
Katherine Jackson’s lawyers contend AEG was negligent in failing to investigate Murray’s qualifications before hiring him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...3d750a-a632-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html
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Potential jurors offer crazy excuses as selection begins in lawsuit over Michael Jackson's death
One said karma, not a jury, should decide if negligence caused a death. Katherine Jackson and the King of Pop's three children are suing concert promoter AEG for billions for the alleged negligent hiring and supervision of Conrad Murray, the doctor convicted of causing the “Thriller” singer’s 2009 fatal overdose.
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BY NANCY DILLON / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
MONDAY, APRIL 15, 2013, 8:28 PM
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Another prospect said she might have to renew her driver's license ... in July. Neither she nor the karma prospect was excused from the pool of possible jurors. Michael Jackson and his mother, Katherine Jackson, exit the court room after his 2005 child molestation trial in Santa Maria, Calif.
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Lawyers for Michael Jackson’s heirs and the concert promoter they’re suing for his death began questioning 104 possible jurors in a Los Angeles court Monday — and heard some off-the-wall excuses.
One juror said she believed karma, not a civil jury, should decide if negligence caused a death.
Another said she might have to renew her driver’s license ... in July.
Neither was immediately excused from possibly serving in the 90-day trial.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...*****-excuses-article-1.1317697#ixzz2Qd6iL51n
One said karma, not a jury, should decide if negligence caused a death. Katherine Jackson and the King of Pop's three children are suing concert promoter AEG for billions for the alleged negligent hiring and supervision of Conrad Murray, the doctor convicted of causing the “Thriller” singer’s 2009 fatal overdose.
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BY NANCY DILLON / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
MONDAY, APRIL 15, 2013, 8:28 PM
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GETTY IMAGES
Another prospect said she might have to renew her driver's license ... in July. Neither she nor the karma prospect was excused from the pool of possible jurors. Michael Jackson and his mother, Katherine Jackson, exit the court room after his 2005 child molestation trial in Santa Maria, Calif.
RELATED STORIES
Paper: Michael Jackson weighed 112 pounds at death
Jackson's family demands 2nd autopsy
Doctor condition: Michael Jackson's doc always at side by pop star's request
Houston office of Michael Jackson's doctor raided by DEA
Lawyers for Michael Jackson’s heirs and the concert promoter they’re suing for his death began questioning 104 possible jurors in a Los Angeles court Monday — and heard some off-the-wall excuses.
One juror said she believed karma, not a civil jury, should decide if negligence caused a death.
Another said she might have to renew her driver’s license ... in July.
Neither was immediately excused from possibly serving in the 90-day trial.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...*****-excuses-article-1.1317697#ixzz2Qd6iL51n
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Voir dire process is finally underway. Plaintiffs attorney, Brian Panish, is questioning each of the seated jurors.
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Juror one is a man w/ several prior jury experience. He is a civil engineer and said has no prob of giving multi million dollar verdict.
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Juror 1 also said he would vote for the defense if evidence lead that way. Doesn't believe any amount can replace a person.
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Juror 1: believes Michael Jackson needed to work on his ethics just like Elvis; doesn't follow media. No negative feelings toward MJ
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Juror 2: man, wife retired used to be research attorney in Court. He's now a Life Coach. Taught English as second language.
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Juror 2: speaks at least 3 languages, wife was a defendant in a lawsuit that settled. No prob w/ substantial plaintiff or defense verdict
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Juror 2: doesn't think it was appropriate how media mobbed MJ everywhere he went. Said he can be fair.
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Juror 3: man who works at a tshirt print shop. No negative feelings about justified lawsuits, no strong feelings one way or another about MJ
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Juror 3: thinks MJ had hard upbringing, no opinion in Katherine Jackson. Mother was addicted to pain meds, understand the problem.
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Juror 3: is not in contact with mother in 10 years. No negative opinion because MJ was criminally charged in Santa Maria
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Juror 4: woman trial paralegal, works for big law firm that has done business with defense's firm. Brother suffered accident, sued
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Juror 4: brother depends on several prescription drugs, has seen effects of withdrawal. No favorites in this case.
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Juror 5: woman, works at JPL as technical instruction designer. Has positive experience as juror. Knows of MJ from the Jackson Five days
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Juror 5: never had issues with prescription drugs, but thinks its obvious it's hard to quit. No opinions in this case. Asked for sidebar.
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Judge gave afternoon break to jurors, we're about to go back in for more questioning.
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Juror 6, man, has very strong feelings about the case. Thinks the questionnaire had silly questions, negative on lawsuits.
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Juror 6: thinks this is case of 2 people w/ lots of money arguing over nothing. Not big fan of Michael Jackson, thinks he wasn't good person
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Juror 6: said he's made up his mind about the case and that nothing will change it. Thinks this case is a waste of time.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 12m
Juror 7: man, advocates with legislators on behalf of Gay and Lesbian Center. Ok with lawsuits if someone thinks they were done wrong
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 11m
Juror 7: had someone close to him addicted to prescription drug, thinks it's not easy to beat. No opinion on Katherine Jackson.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 10m
Juror 7: met MJ at a charity event in 2001 with Liz Taylor. Thinks he was very shy and very uncomfortable w/ large crowds
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 9m
Juror 8: seemed to have a problem with English concepts. Said he didn't understand the meaning of some questions, like caps on awards
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Juror 8: very unfavorable to This is It movie, but then said he didn't watch it. Never heard of AEG but unfavorable too.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 7m
Juror 9: man, served in other cases before. Says he's conservative, not flamboyant person, not in the public eye. Ok to award big verdict
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 7m
Juror 9: asked to speak in private about some dependency issues. No specific thoughts about MJ. Didn't care for his music.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 5m
Juror 9: very unfavorable to MJ as a person, the way he portrayed himself in public, wanted to grab attention. Says will listen impartially
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Juror 10: man, says he's ok with lawsuits, neutral opinion of MJ. Also no prob in awarding large verdict, no issue w/ MJ charged criminally
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Juror 11: woman, biology and chemistry major. Was involved in cancer research at UCLA. Husband teaches in med school.
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Juror 11: hobby is sell things she accumulated over the years on eBay. Worked with addicts while in med school. Took Demerol before.
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Juror 11: says may have had one patient addicted to Demerol craving the med. Really difficult to say no. Can be impartial.
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Juror 11: no prob with MJ being charged criminally, he was found not guilty.
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Then plaintiffs' atty jumped to Juror 14: woman, currently involved in dependency case, has guardianship over sister's child. Wants to adopt
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Juror 14: child taken from sister at birth 4 using narcotics while pregnant. No opinion either way about lawsuits. No prob w/ large verdict
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Jury selection resumes tomorrow morning with plaintiffs' attorney continuing with questions. Thoughts so far?
Voir dire process is finally underway. Plaintiffs attorney, Brian Panish, is questioning each of the seated jurors.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror one is a man w/ several prior jury experience. He is a civil engineer and said has no prob of giving multi million dollar verdict.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 1 also said he would vote for the defense if evidence lead that way. Doesn't believe any amount can replace a person.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 1: believes Michael Jackson needed to work on his ethics just like Elvis; doesn't follow media. No negative feelings toward MJ
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 2: man, wife retired used to be research attorney in Court. He's now a Life Coach. Taught English as second language.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 2: speaks at least 3 languages, wife was a defendant in a lawsuit that settled. No prob w/ substantial plaintiff or defense verdict
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 2: doesn't think it was appropriate how media mobbed MJ everywhere he went. Said he can be fair.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 3: man who works at a tshirt print shop. No negative feelings about justified lawsuits, no strong feelings one way or another about MJ
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 3: thinks MJ had hard upbringing, no opinion in Katherine Jackson. Mother was addicted to pain meds, understand the problem.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 3: is not in contact with mother in 10 years. No negative opinion because MJ was criminally charged in Santa Maria
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 4: woman trial paralegal, works for big law firm that has done business with defense's firm. Brother suffered accident, sued
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 4: brother depends on several prescription drugs, has seen effects of withdrawal. No favorites in this case.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Juror 5: woman, works at JPL as technical instruction designer. Has positive experience as juror. Knows of MJ from the Jackson Five days
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Juror 5: never had issues with prescription drugs, but thinks its obvious it's hard to quit. No opinions in this case. Asked for sidebar.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1h
Judge gave afternoon break to jurors, we're about to go back in for more questioning.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 7m
Juror 6, man, has very strong feelings about the case. Thinks the questionnaire had silly questions, negative on lawsuits.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 4m
Juror 6: thinks this is case of 2 people w/ lots of money arguing over nothing. Not big fan of Michael Jackson, thinks he wasn't good person
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 17m
Juror 6: said he's made up his mind about the case and that nothing will change it. Thinks this case is a waste of time.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 12m
Juror 7: man, advocates with legislators on behalf of Gay and Lesbian Center. Ok with lawsuits if someone thinks they were done wrong
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 11m
Juror 7: had someone close to him addicted to prescription drug, thinks it's not easy to beat. No opinion on Katherine Jackson.
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Juror 7: met MJ at a charity event in 2001 with Liz Taylor. Thinks he was very shy and very uncomfortable w/ large crowds
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 9m
Juror 8: seemed to have a problem with English concepts. Said he didn't understand the meaning of some questions, like caps on awards
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Juror 8: very unfavorable to This is It movie, but then said he didn't watch it. Never heard of AEG but unfavorable too.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 7m
Juror 9: man, served in other cases before. Says he's conservative, not flamboyant person, not in the public eye. Ok to award big verdict
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 7m
Juror 9: asked to speak in private about some dependency issues. No specific thoughts about MJ. Didn't care for his music.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 5m
Juror 9: very unfavorable to MJ as a person, the way he portrayed himself in public, wanted to grab attention. Says will listen impartially
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 4m
Juror 10: man, says he's ok with lawsuits, neutral opinion of MJ. Also no prob in awarding large verdict, no issue w/ MJ charged criminally
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 3m
Juror 11: woman, biology and chemistry major. Was involved in cancer research at UCLA. Husband teaches in med school.
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Juror 11: hobby is sell things she accumulated over the years on eBay. Worked with addicts while in med school. Took Demerol before.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1m
Juror 11: says may have had one patient addicted to Demerol craving the med. Really difficult to say no. Can be impartial.
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 1m
Juror 11: no prob with MJ being charged criminally, he was found not guilty.
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Then plaintiffs' atty jumped to Juror 14: woman, currently involved in dependency case, has guardianship over sister's child. Wants to adopt
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Juror 14: child taken from sister at birth 4 using narcotics while pregnant. No opinion either way about lawsuits. No prob w/ large verdict
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 11s
Jury selection resumes tomorrow morning with plaintiffs' attorney continuing with questions. Thoughts so far?
Judge: No more excuses for would-be Jackson jurors
By By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent – 3 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Los Angeles judge says except for medical emergencies, she won't consider any more excuses from potential jurors in the lawsuit by Michael Jackson's mother against concert promoter AEG.
Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos received a flurry of last-minute notes Tuesday from people asking to leave the case because of scheduling and financial hardships they had not claimed earlier. She excused 10 more panelists from a pool of 87 and ordered attorneys to begin individual questioning.
One man declared he disliked Jackson and his whole family and thought Katherine Jackson's lawsuit blaming AEG for the singer's death is frivolous. He was excused because his employer wouldn't pay for his jury service. Other prospects were less outspoken.
Jury selection in the case is scheduled to continue Wednesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...BPJmAg?docId=586c18a5fbd74f4ea19f1b0ade02f5d7
By By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent – 3 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Los Angeles judge says except for medical emergencies, she won't consider any more excuses from potential jurors in the lawsuit by Michael Jackson's mother against concert promoter AEG.
Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos received a flurry of last-minute notes Tuesday from people asking to leave the case because of scheduling and financial hardships they had not claimed earlier. She excused 10 more panelists from a pool of 87 and ordered attorneys to begin individual questioning.
One man declared he disliked Jackson and his whole family and thought Katherine Jackson's lawsuit blaming AEG for the singer's death is frivolous. He was excused because his employer wouldn't pay for his jury service. Other prospects were less outspoken.
Jury selection in the case is scheduled to continue Wednesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...BPJmAg?docId=586c18a5fbd74f4ea19f1b0ade02f5d7
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Dont blame them. anyone with 2 brain cells would think this is a waste of time
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I was thinking the same thing, and it seems some think it is frivolous, which it is to me. The person who said the case is about 2 people is right--about Katherine who wants money & about AEG who does not want to give it. The guy who dislike TII but did not see it is dangerous because he would make decisions that are not based on facts, so I hope they excuse him. The person who does not like the Jackson family and Michael will now hate Michael more because he will be mad that "they" made him waste time in this trial, so I hope he is excused too.
A problem is that if a person is on a jury & they do not want to be there, they can be vindictive or make a quick decision in order to end the jury deliberations. Jurors are humans after all with human failings.
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By Associated Press, Published: April 19
LOS ANGELES — Lawyers have rejected some prospective jurors in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Michael Jackson’s mother against concert giant AEG.
However, some of replacement candidates voiced strong opinions on Friday critical of the superstar singer. One man said Jackson was too weird and eccentric and he believed he was responsible for his own death.
The lawsuit claims AEG hired Dr. Conrad Murray as Jackson’s physician without checking his credentials. Murray was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the death of the superstar.
Another prospect who is the son of a doctor said he had strong bias against Jackson and thought that Murray did nothing wrong in treating the superstar. He said he knew that Murray had been convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death.
Two prospective jurors were excused for bias and lawyers for both sides used a total of five of their 16 peremptory challenges to remove panelists without giving a reason.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b32110-a94a-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html
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By Associated Press, Published: April 19
LOS ANGELES — Lawyers have rejected some prospective jurors in a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Michael Jackson’s mother against concert giant AEG.
However, some of replacement candidates voiced strong opinions on Friday critical of the superstar singer. One man said Jackson was too weird and eccentric and he believed he was responsible for his own death.
The lawsuit claims AEG hired Dr. Conrad Murray as Jackson’s physician without checking his credentials. Murray was later convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the death of the superstar.
Another prospect who is the son of a doctor said he had strong bias against Jackson and thought that Murray did nothing wrong in treating the superstar. He said he knew that Murray had been convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson’s death.
Two prospective jurors were excused for bias and lawyers for both sides used a total of five of their 16 peremptory challenges to remove panelists without giving a reason.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...b32110-a94a-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html
ABC7 Court News ?@ABC7Courts 17 Apr
We've been waiting for a juror to arrive. Juror 8 has not shown up. Judge Yvette Palazuelos not waiting any longer, will substitute him
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Juror 8 is the one who seemed to have problem with concepts in English. Session just starting.
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The juror who replaced number 8 is also a man, single, with no children. He works in medical practice finance at a bank.
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Juror 7 expressed frustration for all the probative questions in the questionnaire and personally. He said this is beyond civic jury
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Juror 7 said he's not ashamed of discussing his issues, but believes the jurors deserve an apology for attorneys digging into their lives
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Judge and attorneys now talking to juror 7 in private. All the other jurors have been excused until after lunch break.
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There's indication juror 7 will be dismissed and new one will take his place. We're on stand by.
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We started the day with 76 jurors in the pool. A woman with medical appointments coming up and with strong opinions against MJ was dismissed
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Another woman told the judge she had an emergency at her house, with cops present, and was immediately excused.
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Jury pool has 74 people now. If juror 7 gets dismissed, it will be 73.
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Outside the presence of the jurors, attorneys for each side identified jurors who they believe are bias and asked judge to dismiss them
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AEG's attorney said juror 15, the boutique owner, is worried about his financial hardship. He also said he believes AEG is responsible
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Attorney for the Jacksons argued that judge already found there was no cause to dismiss him before, and asked her to let him stay.
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Jude Yvette Palazuelos denied defense's request for dismissal for cause.
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Defense then asked judge to dismiss juror 2 since he said he's ok awarding large verdicts, but uncertain giving zero verdict.
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Plaintiffs' attorney told the judge juror 2 said he was going to be fair and had not made up his mind.
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Judge denied defense's request to dismiss juror 2.
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In plaintiffs turn, Atty asked judge 2 excuse juror 8 saying he's completely bias against MJ. He's discussed case w/ father, who's a doctor
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Defense argued juror 8 also said he can be fair, impartial and put his preconceived ideas aside.
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Judge denied plaintiffs request to dismiss juror 8 based on cause.
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Then it was about juror 6. Judge said she didn't need to hear argument and that he's dismissed. "He's got an attitude," judge said.
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Plaintiffs atty asked judge to dismiss juror 1 for cause. He argued juror said MJ needed to work on is ethics, but would not explain further
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Defense atty argued juror 1 is a very intelligent man that made clear he thought he could be fair and impartial in the case.
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Judge said she will give one more chance to juror 1 explain his answer, since she said she believes we're entitled to know his thoughts
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Tally thus far: juror 6 is dismissed for cause (juror 13 to replace) and juror 7 excused. We're down to 72 jurors in the pool.
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For debate whether juror 7 will be replaced by juror 14 or brand new one. Judge to decide if his excuse was for cause or hardship.
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After lunch judge brought juror 1 back 2 answer what he meant about MJ needing to work on his ethics. He said he meant to say it generically
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Juror 1 said he didn't consider his statement negative, that he wanted to say Jackson was a role model and needed to be aware of that.
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Judge Palazuelos denied plaintiffs' request to dismiss juror 1 for cause.
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The next part of voir dire is called peremptory challenge, when attorneys ask the judge to dismiss a juror they don't want. Each side gets 8
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Plaintiffs dismissed jurors 1 and 8 and defense dismissed jurors 2, 14 and 15. Juror 17 is now juror 1, juror 2 is new person.
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Juror 13 is now juror 6, juror 16 is now juror 7, juror 18 is now juror 8. Jurors 2, 13-18 are new jurors.
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Juror 1, woman, registered nurse, widow, two children. Juror 13 is a man who works at LA Dept Public Social Services. Not married, no kids
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Juror 14: woman with 1 adult son, husband is a fraud specialist at Bank of America. Juror 15: man who said he was subject of traffic trial
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Juror 16: man, lawyer employed by the state of CA, Dept of Transportation. Juror 17: man, high school teacher and football coach
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Juror 18: man, worked for BofA for 20 years, now works at Baxter. He's single, no children and has prior jury experience.
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Jacksons attorney questioned the new jurors on their responses to the questionnaire and personal views of the case.
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Defendants attorney began his turn questioning them, but was not able to finish. We ended the day with 67 jurors left in the panel.
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Voir dire resumes Monday morning. The process is slow, but it's moving along.
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During the afternoon break, other jurors were talking to Juror 16, the attorney, in the hallway and asked how he felt about being pressed
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Jacksons attorney had just questioned him intensely, he said MJ was eccentric and that MJ was entirely responsible for his own death
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Juror 16 said he didn't know the questionnaire was under oath. Judge didn't buy it much, since attorneys are officers of the court.
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Judge keeping juror 16 for now but said she may let him go in the challenge for cause phase.
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I know it's getting very confusing. Once jury is seated/sworn we'll tweet the details about each juror again. Have a great weekend everyone!
We've been waiting for a juror to arrive. Juror 8 has not shown up. Judge Yvette Palazuelos not waiting any longer, will substitute him
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Juror 8 is the one who seemed to have problem with concepts in English. Session just starting.
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The juror who replaced number 8 is also a man, single, with no children. He works in medical practice finance at a bank.
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Juror 7 expressed frustration for all the probative questions in the questionnaire and personally. He said this is beyond civic jury
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Juror 7 said he's not ashamed of discussing his issues, but believes the jurors deserve an apology for attorneys digging into their lives
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Judge and attorneys now talking to juror 7 in private. All the other jurors have been excused until after lunch break.
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There's indication juror 7 will be dismissed and new one will take his place. We're on stand by.
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We started the day with 76 jurors in the pool. A woman with medical appointments coming up and with strong opinions against MJ was dismissed
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Another woman told the judge she had an emergency at her house, with cops present, and was immediately excused.
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Jury pool has 74 people now. If juror 7 gets dismissed, it will be 73.
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Outside the presence of the jurors, attorneys for each side identified jurors who they believe are bias and asked judge to dismiss them
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AEG's attorney said juror 15, the boutique owner, is worried about his financial hardship. He also said he believes AEG is responsible
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Attorney for the Jacksons argued that judge already found there was no cause to dismiss him before, and asked her to let him stay.
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Jude Yvette Palazuelos denied defense's request for dismissal for cause.
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Defense then asked judge to dismiss juror 2 since he said he's ok awarding large verdicts, but uncertain giving zero verdict.
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Plaintiffs' attorney told the judge juror 2 said he was going to be fair and had not made up his mind.
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Judge denied defense's request to dismiss juror 2.
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In plaintiffs turn, Atty asked judge 2 excuse juror 8 saying he's completely bias against MJ. He's discussed case w/ father, who's a doctor
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Defense argued juror 8 also said he can be fair, impartial and put his preconceived ideas aside.
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Judge denied plaintiffs request to dismiss juror 8 based on cause.
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Then it was about juror 6. Judge said she didn't need to hear argument and that he's dismissed. "He's got an attitude," judge said.
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Plaintiffs atty asked judge to dismiss juror 1 for cause. He argued juror said MJ needed to work on is ethics, but would not explain further
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Defense atty argued juror 1 is a very intelligent man that made clear he thought he could be fair and impartial in the case.
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Judge said she will give one more chance to juror 1 explain his answer, since she said she believes we're entitled to know his thoughts
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Tally thus far: juror 6 is dismissed for cause (juror 13 to replace) and juror 7 excused. We're down to 72 jurors in the pool.
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For debate whether juror 7 will be replaced by juror 14 or brand new one. Judge to decide if his excuse was for cause or hardship.
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After lunch judge brought juror 1 back 2 answer what he meant about MJ needing to work on his ethics. He said he meant to say it generically
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Juror 1 said he didn't consider his statement negative, that he wanted to say Jackson was a role model and needed to be aware of that.
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Judge Palazuelos denied plaintiffs' request to dismiss juror 1 for cause.
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The next part of voir dire is called peremptory challenge, when attorneys ask the judge to dismiss a juror they don't want. Each side gets 8
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Plaintiffs dismissed jurors 1 and 8 and defense dismissed jurors 2, 14 and 15. Juror 17 is now juror 1, juror 2 is new person.
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Juror 13 is now juror 6, juror 16 is now juror 7, juror 18 is now juror 8. Jurors 2, 13-18 are new jurors.
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Juror 1, woman, registered nurse, widow, two children. Juror 13 is a man who works at LA Dept Public Social Services. Not married, no kids
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Juror 14: woman with 1 adult son, husband is a fraud specialist at Bank of America. Juror 15: man who said he was subject of traffic trial
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Juror 16: man, lawyer employed by the state of CA, Dept of Transportation. Juror 17: man, high school teacher and football coach
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Juror 18: man, worked for BofA for 20 years, now works at Baxter. He's single, no children and has prior jury experience.
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Jacksons attorney questioned the new jurors on their responses to the questionnaire and personal views of the case.
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Defendants attorney began his turn questioning them, but was not able to finish. We ended the day with 67 jurors left in the panel.
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Voir dire resumes Monday morning. The process is slow, but it's moving along.
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During the afternoon break, other jurors were talking to Juror 16, the attorney, in the hallway and asked how he felt about being pressed
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Jacksons attorney had just questioned him intensely, he said MJ was eccentric and that MJ was entirely responsible for his own death
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Juror 16 said he didn't know the questionnaire was under oath. Judge didn't buy it much, since attorneys are officers of the court.
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Judge keeping juror 16 for now but said she may let him go in the challenge for cause phase.
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I know it's getting very confusing. Once jury is seated/sworn we'll tweet the details about each juror again. Have a great weekend everyone!
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^^That is what I was laughing at too. The family wants the guy who sees AEG as responsible. Why were they waiting for that juror who could not understand English. How would this guy understand the technical words, etc. He should have been excused a long time ago. I am getting the feeling that this jury panel is not good for both sides. How are they going to be fair with such strong views. It seems some think Michael was weird and caused his death. I know they claim they could be fair, but if they had information on the Muarry trial and still think Michael caused his death, how are they going to be fair when they receive the information from this trial. Maybe once the group is whittled down to 12 plus alternates, the picture would look much better.
I agree with the guy who said that all that questioning goes beyond civic duty. I mean you have to state your business in front of not only the other jurors, lawyers, and judge, but to people sitting in the court and press--all of them strangers.
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Jury have been picked.
"Los Angeles (CNN) - A jury of six men and six women has been chosen to hear the Michael Jackson family's wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoter AEG Live.
Another six jurors must now be selected to serve as alternates in the trial, which is expected to last two or three months, in a Los Angeles courtroom.
Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, claiming the promoter was liable in the pop icon's death in 2009.
The judge has not set a date for opening statements and testimony to begin, although the trial opening could happen later this week".
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/22/showbiz/jackson-death-trial-jury/?hpt=en_c2
"Los Angeles (CNN) - A jury of six men and six women has been chosen to hear the Michael Jackson family's wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoter AEG Live.
Another six jurors must now be selected to serve as alternates in the trial, which is expected to last two or three months, in a Los Angeles courtroom.
Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live, claiming the promoter was liable in the pop icon's death in 2009.
The judge has not set a date for opening statements and testimony to begin, although the trial opening could happen later this week".
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/22/showbiz/jackson-death-trial-jury/?hpt=en_c2
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One juror sent a note to the court that she broke her wrist. She was excused from service. Jury pool went down to 66 people.
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Jacksons attorney expressed concerned with juror 16, the attorney. He said he might taint the pool and asked judge to excuse him
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Judge heard accounts from other jurors, whose juror 16 complained to about being 'interrogated' by plaintiffs attorney.
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Judge said because juror 16 is an attorney he should know better not to talk to others about the case and its players.
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Juror 16 was brought in alone and expressed dissatisfaction with Jacksons attorney and the way he was treated.
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Juror 16 about the questioning: it aggravated me seriously as I didn't appreciate his treatment. Judge dismissed him.
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AEG's attorney resume questioning the newly seated jurors. Pool is now with 65 people left.
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Judge told all the jurors that some of the questions might be emotional and somewhat intrusive, but they need to know everyone's opinions
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Juror 17: man, economics teacher for 12th grade students. Says MJ has huge responsibility for own death, but will put views aside/be fair
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Juror 15: man, retired as metal worker about 17 years ago. Now works on cars. Says some people like to blame others for their problems.
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Juror 14: woman, doesn't consider herself MJ fan. Makes decision base on facts. Works for AT&T and feels harassed to 'sell, sell, sell'
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Juror 13: man, father was doctor, said he couldn't be impartial since case involved doctor. Ended up dismissed for cause, 64 jurors left
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Juror 2: woman, husband worked win Chinese herbs. Says she needs to learn the facts in order to judge case fairly. Says will be impartial
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Attys began their peremptory challenges. Plaintiff excused juror 4, the paralegal woman. Defense asked to dismiss juror 10.
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However there has been some legal questioning when juror 10 was about to be excused. They will research over lunch and decide this afternoon
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BREAKING: Jury has been selected and sworn. Details coming soon. Alternates being chosen now.
One juror sent a note to the court that she broke her wrist. She was excused from service. Jury pool went down to 66 people.
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Jacksons attorney expressed concerned with juror 16, the attorney. He said he might taint the pool and asked judge to excuse him
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Judge heard accounts from other jurors, whose juror 16 complained to about being 'interrogated' by plaintiffs attorney.
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Judge said because juror 16 is an attorney he should know better not to talk to others about the case and its players.
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Juror 16 was brought in alone and expressed dissatisfaction with Jacksons attorney and the way he was treated.
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Juror 16 about the questioning: it aggravated me seriously as I didn't appreciate his treatment. Judge dismissed him.
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AEG's attorney resume questioning the newly seated jurors. Pool is now with 65 people left.
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Judge told all the jurors that some of the questions might be emotional and somewhat intrusive, but they need to know everyone's opinions
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Juror 17: man, economics teacher for 12th grade students. Says MJ has huge responsibility for own death, but will put views aside/be fair
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Juror 15: man, retired as metal worker about 17 years ago. Now works on cars. Says some people like to blame others for their problems.
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Juror 14: woman, doesn't consider herself MJ fan. Makes decision base on facts. Works for AT&T and feels harassed to 'sell, sell, sell'
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Juror 13: man, father was doctor, said he couldn't be impartial since case involved doctor. Ended up dismissed for cause, 64 jurors left
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Juror 2: woman, husband worked win Chinese herbs. Says she needs to learn the facts in order to judge case fairly. Says will be impartial
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Attys began their peremptory challenges. Plaintiff excused juror 4, the paralegal woman. Defense asked to dismiss juror 10.
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However there has been some legal questioning when juror 10 was about to be excused. They will research over lunch and decide this afternoon
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BREAKING: Jury has been selected and sworn. Details coming soon. Alternates being chosen now.
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Jury is selected in Jackson family vs AEG trial. Six men and six women will decide whether AEG is liable for the death of Michael Jackson
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12 jurors were chosen after 13 days of jury selection. Attorneys now picking the alternates.
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After lunch, judge heard argument from Jacksons attorney that AEG was using their peremptory challenged to dismiss African American jurors
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Jacksons attorney said that AEG was dismissing jurors just because they were black.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos strongly admonished AEG attorney Marvin Putnam and said she won't tolerate this anymore.
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Judge said next time AEG tries to dismiss jurors based on their skin color not only will she keep them but will give plaintiff extra strike
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Here's a description of the seated jurors: juror 1 is a woman, married, personal banker for Torrey Pines Bank, no children.
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Juror 1 looks to be white, but with the diverse LA residents it's hard to say for sure. We're trying to get their questionnaires.
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Juror 2: woman, registered nurse who works on triage. Widower, ok awarding multimillion dollar verdicts. Believe she's from the Philippines
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Juror 3: man, single, works at a print T-shirt shop. Ok with large verdict. No strong feelings about MJ, thinks he had a tough upbringing
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Juror 3: possibly Hispanic. Thinks it's hard to quit prescription drug addiction. Mother addicted to pain meds, has not seen her in 10 yrs
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Juror 4: woman, Hispanic, likes all music. Knew of MJ but doesn't consider herself a fan. She's the one who feels harassed working 4 AT&T
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Juror 5: woman, single, software engineer working for JPL. Knows MJ from the Jackson Five era. No experience with drug addiction
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Juror 6: man, married, school PE teacher and wife works for a fashion manufacturing company. Possibly white?
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Juror 7: woman, Black, 4 kids, one deceased. She's clinical research study coordinator at UCLA. Daughter school teacher, son in military
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Juror 8: man, works at Baxter, would not hesitate to award multimillion dollar verdict. Conservative, thinks strong will can stop addiction
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Juror 9: man, conservative, not flamboyant or in public eye. Ok w/ big verdict, no specific thoughts on MJ, didn't care a lot for his music
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Juror 10: man, black, had one traffic case against himself. No verdict on case, split decision. Retired metal worker, 61 years old.
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Juror 10: as mechanic, thinks people like to blame other for their mistakes. Likes music, mostly blues.
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Juror 11: woman, knows one of the doctors expert witness for defense. Was involved in cancer research at UCLA.
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Juror 11: husband also in pathology, she's downsizing and hobby is to sell things on eBay. Says she can be fair and impartial.
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Juror 12: man, Hispanic, married, works for DWP, three children. Wife is a librarian assistant.
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Attorneys are now questioning 12 jurors to be alternates in the case. They are looking for 6 people. Selection to resume tomorrow.
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Opening statements are not expected until at least Friday, possibly even Monday.
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Jacksons attorney said he's happy with the jury picked, "It's a good, diverse jury," he told us.
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AEG attorney did not comment. We've reached out again in order to get their reaction.
Jury is selected in Jackson family vs AEG trial. Six men and six women will decide whether AEG is liable for the death of Michael Jackson
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12 jurors were chosen after 13 days of jury selection. Attorneys now picking the alternates.
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After lunch, judge heard argument from Jacksons attorney that AEG was using their peremptory challenged to dismiss African American jurors
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Jacksons attorney said that AEG was dismissing jurors just because they were black.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos strongly admonished AEG attorney Marvin Putnam and said she won't tolerate this anymore.
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Judge said next time AEG tries to dismiss jurors based on their skin color not only will she keep them but will give plaintiff extra strike
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Here's a description of the seated jurors: juror 1 is a woman, married, personal banker for Torrey Pines Bank, no children.
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Juror 1 looks to be white, but with the diverse LA residents it's hard to say for sure. We're trying to get their questionnaires.
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Juror 2: woman, registered nurse who works on triage. Widower, ok awarding multimillion dollar verdicts. Believe she's from the Philippines
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Juror 3: man, single, works at a print T-shirt shop. Ok with large verdict. No strong feelings about MJ, thinks he had a tough upbringing
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Juror 3: possibly Hispanic. Thinks it's hard to quit prescription drug addiction. Mother addicted to pain meds, has not seen her in 10 yrs
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Juror 4: woman, Hispanic, likes all music. Knew of MJ but doesn't consider herself a fan. She's the one who feels harassed working 4 AT&T
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Juror 5: woman, single, software engineer working for JPL. Knows MJ from the Jackson Five era. No experience with drug addiction
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Juror 6: man, married, school PE teacher and wife works for a fashion manufacturing company. Possibly white?
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Juror 7: woman, Black, 4 kids, one deceased. She's clinical research study coordinator at UCLA. Daughter school teacher, son in military
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Juror 8: man, works at Baxter, would not hesitate to award multimillion dollar verdict. Conservative, thinks strong will can stop addiction
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Juror 9: man, conservative, not flamboyant or in public eye. Ok w/ big verdict, no specific thoughts on MJ, didn't care a lot for his music
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Juror 10: man, black, had one traffic case against himself. No verdict on case, split decision. Retired metal worker, 61 years old.
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Juror 10: as mechanic, thinks people like to blame other for their mistakes. Likes music, mostly blues.
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Juror 11: woman, knows one of the doctors expert witness for defense. Was involved in cancer research at UCLA.
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Juror 11: husband also in pathology, she's downsizing and hobby is to sell things on eBay. Says she can be fair and impartial.
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Juror 12: man, Hispanic, married, works for DWP, three children. Wife is a librarian assistant.
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Attorneys are now questioning 12 jurors to be alternates in the case. They are looking for 6 people. Selection to resume tomorrow.
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Opening statements are not expected until at least Friday, possibly even Monday.
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Jacksons attorney said he's happy with the jury picked, "It's a good, diverse jury," he told us.
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AEG attorney did not comment. We've reached out again in order to get their reaction.
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AEG response: "The law allows each party to make peremptory challenges to jurors. However, they cannot strike jurors on the basis of race or ethnicity or gender or other protected classes. If this issue comes up at all - and it shouldn't, then it usually occurs when someone Strikes a series of potential jurors in row of the same gender or race, leading one to question whether peremptory challenges are being made on impermissible grounds. Even though this has not happened, Katherine Jackson's counsel nonetheless brought such a challenge today when I asked the court to dismiss a juror - even though I had not previously struck any juror from that juror's racial group and he replacement juror was in fact from his same racial group. There thus was absolutely no basis to even make such a challenge. And the judge found exactly that; she found that Katherine Jackson's counsel had not even met his burden of bringing the challenge. So, the Court's warning was just a reminder that the parties should conduct themselves ethically and without prejudice against any juror as the law requires. Of course, that is what we have been doing and will continue to do - as the composition of the actual jury demonstrates It was a baseless challenge and the Court appears to have recognized it as such." Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG
AEG response: "The law allows each party to make peremptory challenges to jurors. However, they cannot strike jurors on the basis of race or ethnicity or gender or other protected classes. If this issue comes up at all - and it shouldn't, then it usually occurs when someone Strikes a series of potential jurors in row of the same gender or race, leading one to question whether peremptory challenges are being made on impermissible grounds. Even though this has not happened, Katherine Jackson's counsel nonetheless brought such a challenge today when I asked the court to dismiss a juror - even though I had not previously struck any juror from that juror's racial group and he replacement juror was in fact from his same racial group. There thus was absolutely no basis to even make such a challenge. And the judge found exactly that; she found that Katherine Jackson's counsel had not even met his burden of bringing the challenge. So, the Court's warning was just a reminder that the parties should conduct themselves ethically and without prejudice against any juror as the law requires. Of course, that is what we have been doing and will continue to do - as the composition of the actual jury demonstrates It was a baseless challenge and the Court appears to have recognized it as such." Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG
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After lunch, judge heard argument from Jacksons attorney that AEG was using their peremptory challenged to dismiss African American jurors
Jacksons attorney said that AEG was dismissing jurors just because they were black.
Judge Yvette Palazuelos strongly admonished AEG attorney Marvin Putnam and said she won't tolerate this anymore.
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AEG response: "The law allows each party to make peremptory challenges to jurors. However, they cannot strike jurors on the basis of race or ethnicity or gender or other protected classes. If this issue comes up at all - and it shouldn't, then it usually occurs when someone Strikes a series of potential jurors in row of the same gender or race, leading one to question whether peremptory challenges are being made on impermissible grounds. Even though this has not happened, Katherine Jackson's counsel nonetheless brought such a challenge today when I asked the court to dismiss a juror - even though I had not previously struck any juror from that juror's racial group and he replacement juror was in fact from his same racial group. There thus was absolutely no basis to even make such a challenge. And the judge found exactly that; she found that Katherine Jackson's counsel had not even met his burden of bringing the challenge. So, the Court's warning was just a reminder that the parties should conduct themselves ethically and without prejudice against any juror as the law requires. Of course, that is what we have been doing and will continue to do - as the composition of the actual jury demonstrates It was a baseless challenge and the Court appears to have recognized it as such." Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG
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I see certain pattern here that Katherine's lawyers are playing by.
They say and do things, and then accuse AEG doing and saying those things.
Now they accuse AEG selecting or wanting white jury members, like it is automatically that white members will be on AEG's side and blacks on Jackson's side. I personally hate that sort of tactics, they put blacks and whites in certain category and assume that it is the color of the skin that determinate how they vote for verdict.
Katherine's lawyers were the ones that brought up the paternity of kids so they can go to tabloids and accuse AEG for trying to embarrass kids.
They also brought up Michael's molestation trial that AEG is trying to bring that up in this trial.
See the pattern?
After lunch, judge heard argument from Jacksons attorney that AEG was using their peremptory challenged to dismiss African American jurors
Jacksons attorney said that AEG was dismissing jurors just because they were black.
Judge Yvette Palazuelos strongly admonished AEG attorney Marvin Putnam and said she won't tolerate this anymore.
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AEG response: "The law allows each party to make peremptory challenges to jurors. However, they cannot strike jurors on the basis of race or ethnicity or gender or other protected classes. If this issue comes up at all - and it shouldn't, then it usually occurs when someone Strikes a series of potential jurors in row of the same gender or race, leading one to question whether peremptory challenges are being made on impermissible grounds. Even though this has not happened, Katherine Jackson's counsel nonetheless brought such a challenge today when I asked the court to dismiss a juror - even though I had not previously struck any juror from that juror's racial group and he replacement juror was in fact from his same racial group. There thus was absolutely no basis to even make such a challenge. And the judge found exactly that; she found that Katherine Jackson's counsel had not even met his burden of bringing the challenge. So, the Court's warning was just a reminder that the parties should conduct themselves ethically and without prejudice against any juror as the law requires. Of course, that is what we have been doing and will continue to do - as the composition of the actual jury demonstrates It was a baseless challenge and the Court appears to have recognized it as such." Marvin Putnam, attorney for AEG
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I see certain pattern here that Katherine's lawyers are playing by.
They say and do things, and then accuse AEG doing and saying those things.
Now they accuse AEG selecting or wanting white jury members, like it is automatically that white members will be on AEG's side and blacks on Jackson's side. I personally hate that sort of tactics, they put blacks and whites in certain category and assume that it is the color of the skin that determinate how they vote for verdict.
Katherine's lawyers were the ones that brought up the paternity of kids so they can go to tabloids and accuse AEG for trying to embarrass kids.
They also brought up Michael's molestation trial that AEG is trying to bring that up in this trial.
See the pattern?
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I can't see Katherine and her team winning this case at all.
The tactics are questionable too, even the award they're going for is ridiculous. I think they're just trying to throw everything they can at AEG, hoping that they'll end up received a much lesser (but still very large) payout at the end. If they went for a more sensible figure to start with, any payout would be smaller.
Katherine and her team are on a 'fishing trip' and it's going to backfire, especially as all they're currently doing is damaging MJ's image further, and that will only get worse as the case continues. Do they really want the abuse allegations, history of drug use, medical records, financial details and paternity issues all being brought back into the forefront of people's minds? :mat: It's so unnecessary.
Unfortunately if Katherine can't even get hardened MJ fans on their side, then they have no chance with an unbiased jury pool IMO. :doh:
At the end of the day MJ DID have a history of hiring multiple doctors to administer inappropriate treatments in the past. He was using propofol on previous tours. He had entered rehab in the early 90s for addiction to pain meds. He had sought out Dr Murray and arranged his services himself.
AEG didn't sign the contract of employment with Dr Murray, so Katherine's attorneys can't argue that AEG are legally responsible in any way. When MJ's health was questioned by AEG and Ortega, Murray denied there being problems.
There is a moral issue at play here, but no basis for legal case IMO.
The tactics are questionable too, even the award they're going for is ridiculous. I think they're just trying to throw everything they can at AEG, hoping that they'll end up received a much lesser (but still very large) payout at the end. If they went for a more sensible figure to start with, any payout would be smaller.
Katherine and her team are on a 'fishing trip' and it's going to backfire, especially as all they're currently doing is damaging MJ's image further, and that will only get worse as the case continues. Do they really want the abuse allegations, history of drug use, medical records, financial details and paternity issues all being brought back into the forefront of people's minds? :mat: It's so unnecessary.
Unfortunately if Katherine can't even get hardened MJ fans on their side, then they have no chance with an unbiased jury pool IMO. :doh:
At the end of the day MJ DID have a history of hiring multiple doctors to administer inappropriate treatments in the past. He was using propofol on previous tours. He had entered rehab in the early 90s for addiction to pain meds. He had sought out Dr Murray and arranged his services himself.
AEG didn't sign the contract of employment with Dr Murray, so Katherine's attorneys can't argue that AEG are legally responsible in any way. When MJ's health was questioned by AEG and Ortega, Murray denied there being problems.
There is a moral issue at play here, but no basis for legal case IMO.
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