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Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

My biggest problem is they're not modeling more stuff after This is It. Like that show still holds so much allure, even just basing future concerts on that as the baseline would be pretty interesting. Their designs reek of third party after market stuff. But it's Cirque, and some musical people... Totally different markets/creatives I guess.

The projects need lots of creatives, and they need to be like Mike.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
My biggest problem is they're not modeling more stuff after This is It. Like that show still holds so much allure, even just basing future concerts on that as the baseline would be pretty interesting. Their designs reek of third party after market stuff. But it's Cirque, and some musical people... Totally different markets/creatives I guess.

The projects need lots of creatives, and they need to be like Mike.
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I can see the allure here, but I think the risk far outweighs the benefit. Why attempt to recreate or mimic something MJ already did? That only opens the door to nitpicking and comparisons, which won’t bode well for anyone. The Broadway show only directly replicates one or two events, and in my opinion it’s all the better for it. I also can’t imagine many are happy to return to This Is It given how much of a disaster it was.

When it comes to deceased artists, I find less value in copying/recreating than I do in finding new ways to expand and build upon their existing work.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I find less value in copying/recreating than I do in finding new ways to expand and build upon their existing work.
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This is exactly how I see what they are doing now though, tbh. Maybe not recreating but approximating.

If they wanted to build upon it then they'd probably just use the same technologies to envision a whole new thing. Which I guess goes back to Cirque, so maybe they did alrighty. With that project I think they did do Okay. The musical I know less about.

The music though, they're definitely very beholden to MJ and his format. Even Xscape is a lot more traditional than people say it is. I wish they would do even wilder things with these demoes then they have, though I may be alone in that. Like a whole record of Tricky Stewart stuff, but with Kaytranada. Stuff we could never want but couldn't stop once we got it.
 
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SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Imagine if the Estate opened a random vault somewhere and found 6 albums worth of unreleased material 😩

Knowing them they probably still mess it up somehow
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i imagine them messing that up so bad theyd be releasing an album full of already released songs from 90s and 80s and selling them as previously unreleased material
 
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Beano Wild said:
Pretty sure theres like the same amount of leaked songs as there are released songs

It's insane
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If you look at the estate's faq they are not going to release anything that they don't feel is good enough and that Michael would be happy with. Unless it's on a drake song then it's all good.
 
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SmoothGangsta said:
If you look at the estate's faq they are not going to release anything that they don't feel is good enough and that Michael would be happy with. Unless it's on a drake song the it's all good.
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Yes, and except for Abortion Papers. Nothing damaging about people's perception of MJ with that song...
Or reneging on calling "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" as "12 O'Clock"...
Or releasing that Xscape documentary where they shit over MJ's original compositions...
Or releasing the Bad Tour sourced from a couple of VHS'...
And then there's the chalk. That fucking piece of chalk. I'm sure MJ would have loved that since he was always on the cutting edge of technology. Not to mention using the OTW album cover that he hated.
 
What the hell happened to From Heaven to Grouse Lodge? You know, that tribute album which was supposed to be announced on May? It seems like the estate blocked its release, which is unfortunate because I was really forward to hearing some unreleased Michael songs, even if they have some input from other artists.
 
Gluepix said:
What the hell happened to From Heaven to Grouse Lodge? You know, that tribute album which was supposed to be announced on May? It seems like the estate blocked its release, which is unfortunate because I was really forward to hearing some unreleased Michael songs, even if they have some input from other artists.
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Seems like it’s either delayed or dead. Another user reached out to the overseeing company for an update and never got a response.

If it was blocked, absolute bonehead move. There’s literally no bad that could come of a project like that.
 
Gluepix said:
What the hell happened to From Heaven to Grouse Lodge? You know, that tribute album which was supposed to be announced on May? It seems like the estate blocked its release, which is unfortunate because I was really forward to hearing some unreleased Michael songs, even if they have some input from other artists.
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one of the sources said if the album isn't announced by april then the release was probably blocked by the estate, rip, sucks honestly id love to hear it
 
Fuzball said:
would love to listen to the before-Teddy 90s version of spyho


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Awesome video thanks for posting.

I may have missed it but does he say that it is a pre teddy version? Remember the time is on there so it's likely the teddy version.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Imagine if the Estate opened a random vault somewhere and found 6 albums worth of unreleased material 😩

Knowing them they probably still mess it up somehow
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6 albums of totally unheard songs means 1 new song per Thriller rerelease. With 6 other leaks, none of them Hot Street. And every song came to be in 2008 but the liner notes still say it was worked on in 1982 for Thriller...
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I may have missed it but does he say that it is a pre teddy version? Remember the time is on there so it's likely the teddy version.
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Since Dangerous is the non-Teddy version and ITC being a version with solely MJ vocals, it's obvious that these mixes from Rob's MD are sourced from around the time when Teddy just had joined the team.

To my knowledge Teddy's worked initially only on songs he had contributed to MJ; Michael had handed over some of "his" songs to Teddy at a later stage - hence I assume spyho is most likely a non-Teddy version.
 
Jeffree was ordered by the court to produce 109 CDs/DVDs, five hard drives, three silver-colored Apple Macintosh laptop computers, two iPods, two Dictaphones with two micro-cassettes and three standard cassette tapes.

Estate of MJ filed lawsuit against LaToya's ex fiance

The entire thing smells fishy to me. In what way? Please expound on your thoughts.
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Annita said:
www.mjvibe.com

Jeffree Phillips to turn over Michael’s Hard Drives & Laptop To Third Party - MJVibe

Jeffree Phillips will be turning over personal property owned by Michael Jackson to a third party to safeguard.
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Following the Michael Jackson Estate demanding to inspect the allegedly stolen property in the possession of Jeffree Phillips, Jeffree will be turning over personal property owned by Michael Jackson to a third party to safeguard while he continues to fight the estate over claims he stole the items.

Jeffree was ordered by the court to produce 109 CDs/DVDs, five hard drives, three silver-colored Apple Macintosh laptop computers, two iPods, two Dictaphones with two micro-cassettes and three standard cassette tapes. The property will be stored by a man named Kevin Singer.

Singer is a specialist Court-Appointed Court Receiver and his role is to preserve assets where there is a dispute within a partnership or a company pending a decision on the matters of dispute.

The Michael Jackson property will be in safe hands until the dispute is settled.
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Somewhere, Lord Jackson awakens from a deep sleep.
 
109 CDs, five hard drives (8 if you count the ones on the computers) and five tapes. There HAS to be at least a good chunk of songs hidden there.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Not that we'd know unfortunately. In fact, even if they find a releasable song from the later years who knows when they'd use it.
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They at least said they'd do singles, back in 2018. Branca might say it's not in the plans now, but if there's a smash hit waiting they can't resist. In fact that may be a good reason not to do a cover album; put out the genuine article instead.

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Still mental to me that the tabloid story from just after MJ died about stuff being stolen from his house is actually true
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I been knew it was true. I willed it to completion lol.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Still mental to me that the tabloid remember there being pictures where the sisters (I mean all 3 Rebbie, Latoya and Janet) walked out of Michael's house 1 or 2 days after his death with big filled plastic bags. from just after MJ died about stuff being stolen from his house is actually true
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I remember there being pictures where the sisters (I think all 3 Rebbie, Latoya and Janet) walked out of Michael's house 1 or 2 days after his death with big filled plastic bags.

so there was also private video-footage Michael celebrating Paris birthday with his kids (Paris to Prince: It`s my birthday not yours) which was sold to a paper and was everywhere in the TV just few days after his death. I really think it was Michaels home.
 
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