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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

Zack44 said:
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/michael-jackson-biopic-lionsgate-announced-1296360/

It's officially sanctioned by the estate & the Jackson family, and it's going to be co-produced by Graham King (AKA the producer of Bohemian Rhapsody who secured the rights to make an MJ biopic several months ago) and it's gonna be distributed by Lionsgate.

Also, Graham King is a fan who mentions that he's done his own research about the allegations and believes that he was innocent. So we've got that going for us, which is nice.

Personally, I don't think that a single 2-hour movie is enough to do justice to Michael's career, and I'd rather see the Estate focus on a project that helps vindicate MJ's innocence (e.g. Taj's upcoming Kickstarter documentary series). However, if this movie is done well and is able to improve the general public's perception of Michael in a more positive way, than it's a win-win situation.

What are your thoughts, everyone?
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I'm super excited and I'm so grateful for the fact that they are making a biopic to prove his innocence and show the world the truth. And I'm getting quite sick of people thinking the allegations and rumors are true so it's definitely a win-win situation!
 
Difference is, Kevin Costner movies are boooooooooooooooorrrriiiinnnggggg!!!!
 
Smooth72 said:
People will not watch a 3 plus hour long movie ask Kevin Costner how that worked out.
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1st things first:
Ask Peter Jackson how his Middleearth movies worked out.

2nd:
It’s not about the length of the movie.
It’s what the director & editors do with the time they have.
A 3 hour movie can be great or shitty.
A 90 minute movie can be great or shitty.

Of course I would opt for a 3+ hour movie considering the subject matter.
But all that really counts is THAT IT‘S A GREAT MOVIE!!!
 
I'd imagine parents will want to take their kids to the movie, this film has to be accessible to everyone.

Give me an action packed story filled with real meaningful content but keep it under 3 hours. I don't want to watch a film that becomes a real slog to get through.

It's a story, not a Wikipedia a to b.
 
Why would kids wanna watch the film? This is not 1984 anymore. The movie is for adults, for the people who grew up with Michael’s music
 
Smooth72 said:
People will not watch a 3 plus hour long movie ask Kevin Costner how that worked out.
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Probably his answer depends on the film you ask him. His 1990 blockbuster Dances with Wolves was 3 hours 96 minutes long.
 
filmandmusic said:
Why would kids wanna watch the film? This is not 1984 anymore. The movie is for adults, for the people who grew up with Michael’s music
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The same reason why kids would want to go and watch MJ The Muscial, or dress up like him on Halloween.

He still has a large appeal to kids discovering his music.

I agree that this film will be for adults but I guarantee some parents will bring their kid along who will be dressed up.
 
filmandmusic said:
Why would kids wanna watch the film? This is not 1984 anymore. The movie is for adults, for the people who grew up with Michael’s music
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The purpose of a biopic is not to expand an artist's audience to a new generation and is just to appeal to their much smaller older fanbase, I guess.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
The purpose of a biopic is not to expand an artist's audience to a new generation and is just to appeal to their much smaller older fanbase, I guess.
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Did the Elvis biopic introduce Elvis to children and teenagers? No, nor did Rocketman or that Johnny Cash biopic. I’m convinced children are not the main core group this film wants to appeal too. It doesn’t make any sense to me anyway.

To think Michael will reach millions of children in 2019 is just daydreaming, they have their own pop stars and Michael is just an old artist their parents like.
 
Annita said:
Probably his answer depends on the film you ask him. His 1990 blockbuster Dances with Wolves was 3 hours 96 minutes long.
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Yes, I get it but that was in 1990. Times have change people can’t pay attention that long or be willing to give up that much time. If it’s 3 plus hours I will probably see it when it comes to streaming 😂. I would keep it 2hrs 20 minutes or less.
 
Smooth72 said:
Yes, I get it but that was in 1990. Times have change people can’t pay attention that long or be willing to give up that much time. If it’s 3 plus hours I will probably see it when it comes to streaming 😂. I would keep it 2hrs 20 minutes or less.
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If you ask me my gut feeling says films in general have a longer average length now than in the past. The days of briskly paced 90 to 100 min movies seem long gone. The new normal seems to be 120 to 140 min. I expect the film to be in this region and the director’s cut 5 hours. Just kidding but the DC will be 3 hours.
 
I think people are VERY wrong about attention spans.

Elvis was catered towards everyone except my age group (16-18), and yet i know several girls that began to SWOON over elvis & austin butler.

that film was nearly 3 hours long and it FLEW by. nothing needs to be cut, nothing needs to be shortened. If the movie is good, it will stand by itself.
 
Beano Wild said:
I think people are VERY wrong about attention spans.

Elvis was catered towards everyone except my age group (16-18), and yet i know several girls that began to SWOON over elvis & austin butler.

that film was nearly 3 hours long and it FLEW by. nothing needs to be cut, nothing needs to be shortened. If the movie is good, it will stand by itself.
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Well that Austin Butler fella looked hot as hell, not enough to change my preference to men but still 😜
 
Beano Wild said:
I think people are VERY wrong about attention spans.

Elvis was catered towards everyone except my age group (16-18), and yet i know several girls that began to SWOON over elvis & austin butler.

that film was nearly 3 hours long and it FLEW by. nothing needs to be cut, nothing needs to be shortened. If the movie is good, it will stand by itself.
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I love Elvis and I love the movie, but I have to be in a mood, and I mean really in a mood, and set off time to watch it because it's so long. and because it's so long I haven't watched it as many times as I would like to have. I can't be bothered with such long movies, no matter how much I love it
 
Robbsaber01 said:
People of all ages are going to watch this film. The idea that MJ has no kid fans is absurd.
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I didn’t say he has no kids fans but I am going to say that percentage wise it will be his least significant group of fans.

30 till 50 is his biggest fan group then we have 20 to 30 and then 50+ then probably teenagers 12 to 19 and kids 5 to 11 make up a small portion most likely. Like I said the 80s are long gone.
 
filmandmusic said:
I didn’t say he has no kids fans but I am going to say that percentage wise it will be his least significant group of fans.

30 till 50 is his biggest fan group then we have 20 to 30 and then 50+ then probably teenagers 12 to 19 and kids 5 to 11 make up a small portion most likely. Like I said the 80s are long gone.
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you'd be suprised with how many fans he has in the teenage age range.
 
Beano Wild said:
you'd be suprised with how many fans he has in the teenage age range.
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I’m more surprised with how seemingly small his fan group of 50+ is. All the fans who grew up as teenagers with the jackson are now easily 60+ or those who grew up during the thriller height are 50+ yet I rarely see representation of this age group as MJ fans. I’m stoked he has many 30+ fans which means they became fans during Michael’s commercial and critical decline though.
 
filmandmusic said:
I’m more surprised with how seemingly small his fan group of 50+ is. All the fans who grew up as teenagers with the jackson are now easily 60+ or those who grew up during the thriller height are 50+ yet I rarely see representation of this age group as MJ fans. I’m stoked he has many 30+ fans which means they became fans during Michael’s commercial and critical decline though.
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A decent portion of that 50 plus are probably dead.

I've thought about that in the past, where did they all go? All those thousands who would follow him wherever he went, waited outside his hotel etc

All those screaming girls during the BAD tour who were in love with Michael,

Unfortunately he's probably just a footnote in their lives now...Michael Jackson? Oh yeah I went to see him once in the 80s.
 
It's a very interesting topic to discuss the age range of the fan community. I've been a Michael fan myself since 2016 (with irregular breaks) and I agree.

But I think it also comes from adolescence. My mother loved George Michael in the 80s (she was a teenager, around 16 to 18 years old) and she was a big fan with posters of him in her room, she saw him in concert, etc. Now, (around 50 - 55 yo now) as she has a job, a daughter and have a personal life, she has left GM aside a bit. I think this is normal behavior for some people. Others are done with this period. I think that I myself will be a fan of Michael forever but that from a certain time, I will put him aside in my life after getting tired of the songs, clips, personal videos of private home movies. For what ? Because Michael and the idea of not having met him will weigh on me and that I would have a professional life in construction, a job, personal life, etc.

So yes, some remained fans but others moved on. Afterwards, there's everything, fans aged 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and even 60 years old (Michael's generation) so it's normal. But those over 50 are less exposed on the Internet, perhaps.

I don't want to make generalizations because it is case by case but in theory, I think it can be explained like that. But it is more complex in reality than in principle.

We see memes of Michael on the Internet (tik-tok, insta, pinterest, twitter, youtube) and a lot of fangirling. Fans aged 10 to 20 who adore Michael and who also love him more for the person than sometimes for the artist (which is particularly the case for me) while the older ones admire the artist but don't care about the man in the mirror.
 
Annita said:
I am sure there are a lot of 50plus fans who are not dead. Curious how this opinion comes?
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i'd say the true reason is because most 50+ year olds believe MJ wasnt the greatest person, which is 100% the case over here in ireland, where its "taboo" to talk about him as a serious artist because of the issues that surrounded him.
 
filmandmusic said:
Why would kids wanna watch the film? This is not 1984 anymore. The movie is for adults, for the people who grew up with Michael’s music
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Because there are younger fans. Yes, even kids can be big fans of M. Like ✨me✨ (when the movie will come out I’ll be just shy of 15 so right now I’m 14)
 
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