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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

Guys, am I getting this right? The critics trashed the movie just because it didn't cover the molestation and the trials, even though THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE BEFORE THOSE INCIDENTS, and there’s literally a sequel tease at the end?

Are they freaking stupid? Do they seriously not know there’s a second part coming, and they're shitting on the movie because of that???
 
Gonna be completely honest here, all this handwringing over the Rotten Tomatoes score is tickling me something fierce. We all knew some blindly hostile pillorizing is inevitable for a film like this anyway, but I get a strange, antisocial sort of thrill out of knowing this is going to really wind up the more numbers-obsessed parts of this fandom who sleeplessly pore over charts and stats in place of forming any original opinion on the man they claim to stan. Mean, I know. But I've always nursed a special contempt for this vapid, validation-seeking aspect of modern stan culture in general, so as far as this fandom getting a check to the collective ego goes, this is kind of one I'm willing to take on the chin. Especially since Rotten Tomatoes scores are more often than not almost insultingly non-indicative of a movie's actual quality. I mean, have you seen the scores for Bohemian Rhapsody and Elvis? Incredibly flattering for some of the most mind-numbingly soulless vanity projects I've ever seen. (Okay, maybe a bit too harsh on Elvis - it did have its moments. But 77% is still real generous for what it actually is imho.)
 
kreen said:
Even without the anti-MJ bias some reviewers have, and their (defensible?) opinion that the movie would have been better had it been something other than a hagiography, the writing was on the wall that this wouldn't be a good film. Half of it had to be reshot mid-production, and it was obvious the template chosen by the studio/Estate was the commercially-successful but artistically-dreadful Queen biopic.
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I don't think I've ever seen a positive post from you. The fact you've used the term hagiography is rather telling as well.
 
What if Frank Cascio is behind all this? Everyone remembers how that idiot tried to blackmail the Estate with a lawsuit, right? What if he’s the one who paid off critics to intentionally tank the movie's ratings
 
Not all reviews are giving a bad review because it doesnt include allegations - lets not kid ourselves. There are many which call the film hollow and basically just an advert for Michael Jackson so this cant be completely painted as "hater journalists never gave it a chance." I have not been too shy to say that I wasn't particularly looking forward to this movie because it seemed like a puff piece from the adverts, but I am very disappointed with just how bad the reviews are. I hoped better for his sake. Helpfully it will resonate with the public, thats all that matters.

Tomorrow I'll see the film and will have forgotten all the reviews so I can see for myself. I hope to enjoy it.
 
Paul MCC said:
What if Frank Cascio is behind all this? Everyone remembers how that idiot tried to blackmail the Estate with a lawsuit, right? What if he’s the one who paid off critics to intentionally tank the movie's ratings
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I don't think this sounds very plausible.
drewdrew1979 said:
The rating keeps improving. It is now 32%. This is a positive trend. I wonder what the final will be?
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Now 33%
 
innuendo141 said:
Not all reviews are giving a bad review because it doesnt include allegations - lets not kid ourselves. There are many which call the film hollow and basically just an advert for Michael Jackson so this cant be completely painted as "hater journalists never gave it a chance." I have not been too shy to say that I wasn't particularly looking forward to this movie because it seemed like a puff piece from the adverts, but I am very disappointed with just how bad the reviews are. I hoped better for his sake. Helpfully it will resonate with the public, thats all that matters.

Tomorrow I'll see the film and will have forgotten all the reviews so I can see for myself. I hope to enjoy it.
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Like you, I do think this film may very well just be a playlist of highlights (as one fan called it) that's pretty thin on storytelling. It's one of the reasons why I am not particularly excited about it. But that applies to basically every music biopic. The early (non-fan) reactions suggested this is a solid, well-made entry in that genre.

Even the most negative reviews seem to praise Jaafar and Colman Domingo's performances. If the top cast are being praised, the screenwriting would have to be exceptionally bad to justify the 1 out of 5 rating these critics are giving it.

Hard to see those reviews as anything but anti-MJ bias.
 
kreen said:
Even without the anti-MJ bias some reviewers have, and their (defensible?) opinion that the movie would have been better had it been something other than a hagiography, the writing was on the wall that this wouldn't be a good film. Half of it had to be reshot mid-production, and it was obvious the template chosen by the studio/Estate was the commercially-successful but artistically-dreadful Queen biopic.
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Have you actually seen the movie? If not, then you should reserve judgement until you do (if you plan to).
 
drewdrew1979 said:
I don't think this sounds very plausible.

Now 33%
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It's good that the score went up, but it's still sad because the critic's rating won't be able to top 50% now. Those idiots dropped such low scores that it's physically impossible for the average to become "fresh" anymore

I’m praying to God that the audience scores hit near 100%. I really want this movie to make a billion. It’s not coming out in my country until June, so I’ll be sitting here in anticipation for a long time. But I’m sure it will be the most beautiful biopic ever made
 
Michael Jackson's movie has one of the lowest review scores of all time for a blockbuster, and after reading the reviews every single one without fail prominently highlighted how angry they were that the sexual abuse allegations were not included prominently
 
Harun said:
Michael Jackson's movie has one of the lowest review scores of all time for a blockbuster, and after reading the reviews every single one without fail prominently highlighted how angry they were that the sexual abuse allegations were not included prominently
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Oh really the øy dont have the allegations in?! Dang thats really sad. Well maybe its gonna come in the part two?
 
This movie is for the fans and casual listeners of MJ's music. This isn't for critics.

They aren't reviewing the actual movie. They are just writing hit pieces because they hate MJ.

Don't let them ruin this for us. That's what they want. They bashed "MJ The Musical" too and yet it turned out to be successful. They want the film to fail so they are going to the extreme. They look stupid and biased.

They are desperate for it to flop. It's obvious.

How can they be taken seriously?
 
dam2040 said:
I don't think I've ever seen a positive post from you. The fact you've used the term hagiography is rather telling as well.
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I reserve my positive posts for quality releases, like when the Estate released the Xscape album, or the TII documentary. Those were great and I said so.

When faced with crap product, my posts tend to be more negative.
 
I just noticed that you can buy the soundtrack on casette
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I'm also in Paris, primarily responsible for this shit. It's your damn father, fine that you have problems with estare or whatever, but get your damn ass in gear and stop being so negative about it. Of course the press picks up on this kind of thing. Your cousin and your brother are also involved, as is Janet, who keeps her mouth shut. I’m so angry right now And what about the damned press? There were no child abuse scandals until 1984, and the film only goes up to that point. I hate this world. We won't break the billion mark.
 
kreen said:
I reserve my positive posts for quality releases, like when the Estate released the Xscape album, or the TII documentary. Those were great and I said so.

When faced with crap product, my posts tend to be more negative.
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Has anybody ever told you to "Bug Off"? Just Wondering.🙄
 
Harun said:
Michael Jackson's movie has one of the lowest review scores of all time for a blockbuster, and after reading the reviews every single one without fail prominently highlighted how angry they were that the sexual abuse allegations were not included prominently
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Who cares honestly? Who are these people that their opinions matter so much? These are a bunch of "Leaving Neverland" fans.

Let them be angry.

They only do this with MJ anyway.

There are other celebrities who've had biopics that have been sanitized and I didn't hear anyone complaining.

Why on earth would a biopic that ends with the "Bad" era cover the controversies anyway? That makes zero sense.

They can all stay mad. A bunch of hypocrites and idiots.
 
Cinnamon234 said:
This movie is for the fans and casual listeners of MJ's music. This isn't for critics.

They aren't reviewing the actual movie. They are just writing hit pieces because they hate MJ.

Don't let them ruin this for us. That's what they want. They bashed "MJ The Musical" too and yet it turned out to be successful. They want the film to fail so they are going to the extreme. They look stupid and biased.

They are desperate for it to flop. It's obvious.

How can they be taken seriously?
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Life is to short ,just ignore them,all they do is rehash old rubbish they have nothing new to say, very unprofessional journalism to read it is to feed it
 
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